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Title: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 11, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
After talking with a few friends and wildlife officials I have decided to go ahead and post this. Tradgang will be the extent of my online posting. You all are a family and so many of my friends and family have urged me to post on the topic for your benefit.

6 yards of cold mountain air separated me from the mountains apex predator in milky darkness. After a continued advances of the cat and a failed effort to make the cat retreat I released an arrow which struck true at the base of the neck with the cat facing me and prepared to pounce... I heard the "thunk" of my arrow and the lion leapt into the air with a deep growl. I heard a crash a few short seconds later. Wildlife officials were contacted and confirmed my story. ...Colorado Mountain lion season is closed currently and my actions would have been highly illegal had I not been in imminent danger. To those who are venturing into the high country I would recommend carrying bear spray and or a side arm. I have carried these in the past but neglected them on this trip. Either would have most likely deterred the attack and saved the life of this beautiful animal. I am thankful to be unhurt but just as deeply remorseful of my neglect of standard wilderness safety. ... if you are ever in a similar situation with a mountain lion remember to not run! Rather, yell and make advances. If the cat attacks fight back with everything you have. Mountain lions do not like to be resisted or challenged.

.... oh, and a few days later I missed a long shot at a tremendous mule deer buck, shot right over his back.  Overall it was a tremendous hunt!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 11, 2017, 09:54:00 PM
https://imgur.com/jRrMBBo
 
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Originally posted by Trumpkin the Dwarf:
 
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Originally posted by Michael Arnette:
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Fixed it for ya!     :thumbsup:  [/b]
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: kevsuperg on September 11, 2017, 10:10:00 PM
Cudos for having the ethics and integrity to report it in the first place, I'm sure many wouldn't.
 Glad your safe, bet that got your heart pumping.
 I came across a large cat track here a few days ago. Makes ya stand up and look around.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on September 11, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
Man oh man, I'm glad your safe, kept your head and made good on your shot, also glad for an understanding official!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: snakebit40 on September 11, 2017, 10:50:00 PM
:scared:   Wow!!! I'm glad you're ok!!!!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: bucknut on September 11, 2017, 11:05:00 PM
I had a close call like that in NM a few years ago, but was able to just back out.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 11, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
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Originally posted by bucknut:
I had a close call like that in NM a few years ago, but was able to just back out.
Good deal! this situation got too intimate very quickly. It's my third encounter with lions and the second close encounter.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Walt Francis on September 11, 2017, 11:37:00 PM
Michael,

Glad you came out on the right end of the encounter.  

Mountain Lion and Bowhunter encounters are fairly common here in the Rocky Mountains, California, and Oregon, several of then are reported each year here in Montana.  I know Barry Wensel had a similar encounter with the same results in the early 90's and I had one in 1994 detailed in the link below.

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=055765#000000
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Roadkill on September 11, 2017, 11:55:00 PM
There are people back east that believe only hunters with dogs kill lions.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 12, 2017, 12:03:00 AM
Walt! I remember reading your very thread and thinking to myself how rare a situation that would be. I never thought I'd be in a very similar situation
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: mark Willoughby on September 12, 2017, 12:19:00 AM
Yup thank God you made it out bet you'll be toting the big iron on your hip next time " I know I would" those cats ain't no joke!!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: turkey522 on September 12, 2017, 12:55:00 AM
Glad your ok thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Sam McMichael on September 12, 2017, 07:23:00 AM
I'm glad you came out o.k. It is sad to kill an animal under these conditions, but you had no choice. You are also fortunate that the game official accepted your explanation of events.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: KentuckyTJ on September 12, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
Wow lots of good decisions here.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: cacciatore on September 12, 2017, 08:23:00 AM
I am glad everything went right, things can happen and you made what you had to do.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: ron w on September 12, 2017, 08:39:00 AM
Glad you kept your whit's and did the right thing....   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: MnFn on September 12, 2017, 09:47:00 AM
Glad you are ok Michael. Quite an experience for sure.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on September 12, 2017, 10:55:00 AM
Hey Michael! I'm glad you shared this encounter with us! And I'm glad you're alright! I can't see the picture though.  :dunno:
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: ESP on September 12, 2017, 11:23:00 AM
I am glad that you are alright. An experience that you will be telling your grandkids.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: David Mitchell on September 12, 2017, 11:30:00 AM
I can't see any pictures either.   :(
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: D. Key on September 12, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
Glad you are ok and hope you were wearing your Brown pants.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: D.B Cooper on September 12, 2017, 12:35:00 PM
Thank you for sharing, and I'm glad you're ok.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Homey88 on September 12, 2017, 02:50:00 PM
Wow! Glad you are ok!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: YosemiteSam on September 12, 2017, 03:49:00 PM
Glad you're okay.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Ghostman on September 12, 2017, 07:03:00 PM
You made the best of a bad situation and came out ok. I commend your for your ethics!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: snag on September 12, 2017, 08:11:00 PM
Here in Oregon there areas the game dept has had to hire "professional hunters" to bring down the numbers. One unit they killed 40+ cats. They are not afraid of man! When I do cow/calf calling it has brought cats in. Keep alert!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Trenton G. on September 12, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
I'm glad everything worked out for you. That could have gone south quick.

My cousin out in Washington had a similar experience while deer hunting. He's a tough guy but when he told that story he looked terrified.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Basinboy on September 12, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
That could have ended badly! Glad you were able to make the shot count in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 12, 2017, 10:36:00 PM
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Originally posted by snag:
Here in Oregon there areas the game dept has had to hire "professional hunters" to bring down the numbers. One unit they killed 40+ cats. They are not afraid of man! When I do cow/calf calling it has brought cats in. Keep alert!
Well at least they do the necessary to control numbers! If I'm correct Oregon doesn't allow the use of dogs?
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Hackbow on September 12, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Glad all is good Michael! Don't suppose they let you keep the backstraps?    ;)  

I've only seen one live one and it ran like a scalded dog when it saw me and hunting partner. Your story is going to have me a little more on edge in thick spots next time out west. Never thought of carrying bear spray for cats, but I might add that to my pack list.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Mike Vines on September 13, 2017, 07:04:00 AM
Is it legal to bait them in like that?  HA!!!

All kidding aside, I'm glad you came out of the encounter OK, and able to tell the story.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Dry Creek on September 13, 2017, 11:12:00 AM
Thank you for sharing, and I'm glad you're ok.
Craig
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Dan Landis on September 13, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
WOW!!!  Glad You're ok.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on September 13, 2017, 07:50:00 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Arnette:
(http://i.imgur.com/jRrMBBo.jpeg)
Fixed it for ya!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Possum Head on September 13, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
What's a kitty that size weigh?
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 13, 2017, 11:47:00 PM
140lbs or so
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: stujay on September 16, 2017, 02:07:00 AM
All I can think of is WOW!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: JakeD on September 16, 2017, 07:08:00 AM
Glad everything turned out okay for you. Way to keep a level head. Last week we saw several cat tracks in the area of Colorado we were hunting. We also saw a lot of mule deer, so I'm guessing that's what had them there. It'll definitely make you pay attention to your surroundings.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: kennym on September 16, 2017, 05:28:00 PM
That could have ended badly. You did the right thing all the way Michael. Glad you didn't get any closer!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Joe2Crow on September 16, 2017, 05:32:00 PM
What a rush that must have been! Kept your cool and did what you had to do.  I didn't read all the posts - did they let you keep the cat?
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Terry Green on September 16, 2017, 09:16:00 PM
Wow!!!

I think your title should read 'Mule Deer Hunt turned into Survival'.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: on September 16, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
And you shot him facing on?????

Sorry, I could not resist! Glad it worked out and you were not harmed!

Bisch
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 16, 2017, 09:54:00 PM
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Originally posted by Bisch:
And you shot him facing on?????

Sorry, I could not resist! Glad it worked out and you were not harmed!

Bisch
Hahahaha hahahaha...yes it was a frontal shot! The title should read: "Frontal shot saves rookie hunter from stitches"

The lion died about 25 yards from the shot. I'd post a picture of the actual entrance but it looks like a trophy picture with my bow on it and I didn't want it to be perceived as a trophy at all.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: medic77 on September 16, 2017, 11:02:00 PM
Holy smokes, what a rush and deflated moment at the same time.  You did what you had to do.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Warden609 on September 17, 2017, 07:30:00 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Arnette:
 
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Originally posted by Bisch:
And you shot him facing on?????

Sorry, I could not resist! Glad it worked out and you were not harmed!

Bisch
Hahahaha hahahaha...yes it was a frontal shot! The title should read: "Frontal shot saves rookie hunter from stitches"

The lion died about 25 yards from the shot. I'd post a picture of the actual entrance but it looks like a trophy picture with my bow on it and I didn't want it to be perceived as a trophy at all. [/b]
Post the picture of the entrance. You already explained what happened.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on September 17, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Arnette:
 I'd post a picture of the actual entrance but it looks like a trophy picture with my bow on it and I didn't want it to be perceived as a trophy at all.
Maybe you can crop it real close so we see the chest and just a part of the bow or something? I'm sure guys would love to see what the Grizzly head did to a mountain lion.

Also, I'm really glad it worked out well for you. I'm beginning to think I should take cats more seriously when I'm back in Montana...    :scared:
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: rastaman on September 18, 2017, 04:29:00 PM
Wow! Glad the encounter ended with you ok!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: SAM E. STEPHENS on September 18, 2017, 10:39:00 PM
Glad your still with us....

,,Sam,,
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Soonerlongbow on September 19, 2017, 05:50:00 AM
:pray:    :pray:    :pray:  


The Good Lord smiled on you that day for sure!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: BowMIke on September 20, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
Michael,
Glad you kept your cool!  (Maybe that close bear encounter we shared helped you to do the right thing!)

BowMike
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Terry Green on September 20, 2017, 05:08:00 PM
Post what you want to.... I would love to see more pics it's very educational don't worry about what other people say or think we'll take care of that
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: huntnmuleys on September 21, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Wow, crazy story. Glad you ended up unharmed.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Blueridge on September 21, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
I had 2 encounters like that (not quite that close) in Colorado back in the early nineties. Thankfully they both bounded off when we made eye contact, they were both crouched ready to pounce. My hackles were raised for the rest of the hunt, spooky.  Glad you made it ok.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: twitchstick on September 23, 2017, 09:09:00 AM
I am glad you are okay. Unfortunitly it is more common that one would think. I had one crawl up on me once. At first I was excited just to see a cat that close until it seen me. At that piont it wiggle it rear just like a house cat flicked it's tail getting low. It slithered up gaining 20 yards or so on me. I started waving my hands and saying "Hey cat! Hey cat!". It kept coming toward me not even bothered. I knocked an arrow as it came to within 15 yards and hunkered behind a small pine. It never gave me a clear shot. Luckly for me it backed down after a few long minutes. I have had 5 friends that have had to shoot them in self defence, all are documented. Scary stuff!
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: Lady Frost on September 24, 2017, 04:36:00 PM
Wow, just wow. Thanks for raising awareness and glad you are ok.
Title: Re: A mule deer hunt turned lion hunt
Post by: lt-m-grow on September 26, 2017, 11:36:00 AM
Glad you are ok man and really glad got rid of that ugly bow :-)

And thanks for sharing.