Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Boognish on July 31, 2017, 08:28:00 PM
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What's the deal, just not popular enough or something?
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Not enough advertising revenue to make it work.
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No sponsors
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I kinda miss Tred Barta, it was the hard way the Barta way. He was a pretty entertaining fella. It's a real bummer that he had a stroke. I believe that's what happened to him. He was fun to watch.
Steve Jr
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Not enough money. With the exception of Hoyt and Widow not sure if any trades bow companies can afford the advertising dollars and neither of those two likely need to tie up 20K in advertising.
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Clay Hayes does an excellent job producing some traditional bowhunting shows. Look him up on YouTube and he has a website "Twisted Stave".
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Plus trad only shows have a hard time harvesting a animal every week. You will see guys using trad bows on mainstream shows every once in a while like Fred Eichler and Arron Synider so that's who I watch. With Fred my favorite part is he will shoot just about anything and be happy with a dinky buck you don't see that much on TV anymore.
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Old School Outdoors (I think that's the right name)shows some hunting with stickbows. They hunt with firearms too, but if they are bowhunting it is usually with traditional bows.
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It would be nice to have some trad shows but no sponsors no money equals no shows.I remember back when Buckmasters was on TV,more then have the show was advertising.There was only 5-10 minuties of actual hunting in a 1/2 hour show.
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Yep, it's all about the $$$. I'm fine without any myself; haven't watched any in a long time.
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To be honest there are alot of Trad focused youtube channels which upload in 1080HD and offer some very good footage.
I actually would prefer that there not be a trad only focused outdoor production of the likes that's on TV now...that's not what trad archery needs.
I already have a problem with TradGeeks and the like pushing sponsors down my throat. The photography and footage and page content was and IS excellent. Now it's #SPONSOR #SPONSOR #SPONSOR #MAKEMEPUKE...It's the exact type of crap that drove me away from watching outdoor video production in the first place.
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Originally posted by gvdocholiday:
To be honest there are alot of Trad focused youtube channels which upload in 1080HD and offer some very good footage.
I actually would prefer that there not be a trad only focused outdoor production of the likes that's on TV now...that's not what trad archery needs.
I already have a problem with TradGeeks and the like pushing sponsors down my throat. The photography and footage and page content was and IS excellent. Now it's #SPONSOR #SPONSOR #SPONSOR #MAKEMEPUKE...It's the exact type of crap that drove me away from watching outdoor video production in the first place.
Agreed. Youtube has plenty. And I'm no fan of the "hook & bullet" press either.
Among the shooting sports, traditional archery is among the least gear-intensive and, therefore, lacks sponsorship. For whatever reason, any sport that encourages skill over tech gets passed over by most people. Past the entry-level bow at about $200, you can't buy yourself into being a better shot with a traditional bow. Hard work, coaching & practice are just harder to sell.
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Also it's more difficult to kill a deer with a trad bow. Most of those guys kill deer last 30 yards and it's tough to do that with a trad bow. Plus get it on video? Next to impossible.
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Because most trad guys refuse to yell Smoked Him!!
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The first few seasons of Easton Bowhuntung Fred shot nothing but trad and he shot a Palmer recurve it wasn't until Hoyt jumped on board after merging with Easton. That he started shooting the Hoyt Dorado and Hoyt compounds on the show.Then his Buffalo and now Satori that he helped engineer.
Personally I like the early seasons when he used his Palmer. Nothing against Hoyt but the show was just so original and actually the episode where he shoots his first grizzly Bear is what inspired me to go trad. His show has gotten to comercialized just like the rest of them.
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Agree there's lots of trad hunting on youtube to make up for no tv shows. One I enjoy is Captain Bowman from Australia. Hunts from the ground in camo and takes clear quality, self-filmed video that makes you feel like your right beside him at the shot and following up the trail. Animals are exotics of course since pretty much all but kangaroo, platypus, koala and crocs are exotics down there. Hunts appear to be on wild lands with genuine enthusiasm and for a variety of game with absolutely no sponsors or promoting of anything.
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Originally posted by jt85:
Because most trad guys refuse to yell Smoked Him!!
So true...
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because no one would watch it hence no advertising. there is no bias out there when it comes to money. if someone can make money they would put it on TV. just think of the stupid reality shows if you don't believe this.
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Sponsors and cash would be a big issue as the typical season show takes $250+K to produce. But lets be honest too; I suspect that actual harvest success per hour invested with Trad just takes a far bigger investment. I would suspect it would take a lot of work to fill a season of shows (assuming you want actual harvest footage) consistently.
Dan in KS
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There is a Facebook page that just started for trad hunters to share their hunts, called The Trad Brotherhood. There are already some good vids there, hopefully itll gain some headway.
Captain Bowman in Australia is awesome. I like the one where he sneaks up on a sleeping fox and shoots it from about 10 feet.
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look up Toa Hunter gatherer. Very cool NZ show
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I agree that it is lack of advertising money and profit potential that has the greatest effect on this topic. But, I guess I am the odd man out here. I am glad there aren't any, and I don't watch the hunting shows we do have.
I have seen shots that look like gut hits followed by cheering and high fives all over the place. To me, taking an animal is a private and solemn affair. Not criticizing those who do like these shows or those who cheer when they take an animal. All I'm saying is that it is not my style and that I don't miss not having them.
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It's been stated a few times the lack of advertisements is the main reason...for the most part traditional bowhunters rely on acquired skills, and knowledge to get within range, and harvest an animal. Hunting shows, do little more than to market technologies, that greatly lessen the need for skills and knowledge. If industry could figure out a way to sell skill, knowledge, and simple ways, believe me, they would shun technology, and be all over what we do.
Thanks,
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Originally posted by Sam McMichael:
I have seen shots that look like gut hits followed by cheering and high fives all over the place. To me, taking an animal is a private and solemn affair. Not criticizing those who do like these shows or those who cheer when they take an animal. All I'm saying is that it is not my style and that I don't miss not having them.
Well said.