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Title: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: acollins on May 02, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
I am shooting gold tip hunter XT. They are bare shafting perfectly with the 12 grain inserts and 200 grain points. Will anything change if I use 100 grain broadheads and 100 grain brass inserts, instead of a 200 grain point. Thanks
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: smokin joe on May 02, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
In my experience doing similar experiments, the tune will be the same. You may gain a bit more arrow durability with the stronger insert and/or lose some broadhead durability with the lighter head.

I ended up opting for a 75 grain brass insert and a 125 grain head. That makes a pretty tough arrow.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: reddogge on May 02, 2017, 04:51:00 PM
The only reason I'd do that since it costs more for the weighted inserts is if I wanted to use that 100 grain broadhead and you need the 200 grains to tune it like you figured out. Otherwise go to the 200 grain head with standard inserts.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: crazynate on May 02, 2017, 05:36:00 PM
I also quit using weighted inserts Bescause I saw no added benefit. On my gold tips are run 200s with standard insert. No issues compraring to 2.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Michael Arnette on May 02, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
You should be good either way just depending on your desired broad-heads.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Bowhunter4life on May 02, 2017, 06:42:00 PM
6 of 1, or half dozen of the other...

Personal preference will prevail in your decision or decisions...  Nothing is arresting you to one or the other either...  Why not both?
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: twitchstick on May 02, 2017, 07:29:00 PM
I have had good luck with both. I have mixed and matched to use broadheads of differnt weights to acheive the same overall arrow weight.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: M60gunner on May 02, 2017, 07:44:00 PM
I use 75 grain inserts and 145 grain BH because I have a few doz Bears and Pearson DH's. GT Trad shafts.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: BowMIke on May 02, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
I shoot both. 100 grain insert and 200 grain head. Great penetration!
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Steve Jr on May 02, 2017, 08:57:00 PM
I shoot 75grn brass inserts with 205 Simmons Safari's. They shoot great and I have taken quite a few deer with this combo. I don't see any reason to change.    :thumbsup:  

Steve Jr
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: ChuckC on May 02, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
That is the cool thing about having that choice.  If you already have broadheads you like and they fit in there, use heavier or lighter inserts to accomodate them.  If you plan to buy new heads, well... get whatever you want.  This allows a ton of options.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Longtoke on May 02, 2017, 11:33:00 PM
I prefer the heavier heads but I have no issue with using heavy inserts or special adapters to get the weight I need.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Terry Green on May 04, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
I'd rather have the hardware in the broadhead.  100 grain bheads are borderline 'make believe'. JMO
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Danny Rowan on May 04, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
What Terry said. I shoot 400 grains up front. 300 gr head and 100 gr brass insert.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Bowwild on May 04, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
I've tuned to both situations as well.  

But like others here, if I have a broad head that weighs the same as the heavier insert, I'd go with the heavier-duty broad head.

Technically, some of the heavier inserts I've used are longer than standard as well.  This stiffens the arrow a bit more than a short insert with more weight in the broadhead.

I have versions of the same broad head in 100, 125, 155, 165, and 200 grains. Even have Deep Six ferrules for them if I want super small shaft diameter.  I have field points to match all these broadhead weights as well.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: hawkeye n pa on May 05, 2017, 07:00:00 AM
I like the heavier brass insert, gives me the ability to use a larger selection of broadheads that I already own.  That way I can still hunt groundhogs economicly.  Have had no tuning issues.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Holm-Made on May 05, 2017, 07:12:00 AM
A hundred grain screw in broadhead doesn't have much material in the blades themselves.  In my mind, the heavier broadhead set up is a much stronger set up, less likely to fail.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: Bill Carlsen on May 05, 2017, 07:33:00 AM
Tuning with either set up has worked for me. If there is a difference I cannot see it. However, it is hard to verify what set up will work best in hunting situations as the shots and hits are never exactly the same. I usually get two holes or a pass thru with either one of the set ups. For me a razor sharp three blade head almost always puts game down in sight.
Title: Re: Heavy head or brass inserts
Post by: charles m on May 05, 2017, 08:56:00 AM
With glue on head weights from 100 to 250 grains and short and long titanium, aluminum, and steel adapters I can't for the life of me figure out how you can't get any head weight you want.

I'm also in the anti 100 grain head camp.