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Title: Cock Feather Alignment
Post by: monk on April 01, 2017, 11:32:00 AM
What do you think is the best Cock Feather Alignment for shooting off the shelf?
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Post by: grouseshooter002 on April 01, 2017, 11:37:00 AM
Cock feather up.

Grouse
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Post by: MnFn on April 01, 2017, 12:09:00 PM
With my carbons, cock feather up.

I am shooting more 4 Fletch on my woodies now, but with the three Fletch I have left them as they come. I have tried cock feather in, but on only one set of arrows does it seem to matter.
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Post by: Shadowhnter on April 01, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
X3 on Cock feather up, in 12 o'clock position.
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Post by: Kromer on April 01, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
Some interesting results so far. Haven't tried it in a 12 o'clock position, I see better flight at around 10:30. Something new to try!
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Post by: Roger Norris on April 01, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
I thought for sure I was going to see more cock feather in.
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Post by: Sirius Black on April 01, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
I've been trying cock feather up lately on my 1969 K-Mag, with Gold Tip carbons,(off the shelf) and flight seems pretty good.
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Post by: crazynate on April 01, 2017, 07:13:00 PM
Wherever it needs to be to get good flight. My bob lee likes it cock feather in. Predator up. Most of my older bear. It's out.
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Post by: The Whittler on April 01, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
With my JO-JAN right wing I shoot with cock feather in, with another jig (can't remember what brand) left wing cock feather out.
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Post by: goingoldskool on April 01, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Cock feather in...
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Post by: Gen273 on April 01, 2017, 10:00:00 PM
Cock feather in for me! It has produced better arrow flight on every bow that I have had.
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Post by: Orion on April 01, 2017, 10:01:00 PM
If the arrow is well matched to the bow, really doesn't make much difference.  I shoot in and out.  Cock feather in seems to give just a tad better clearance.  Some folks really like cock feather up.  If that works, then cock feather down should work just as well.  Hmmmmm.
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Post by: mahantango on April 01, 2017, 11:44:00 PM
I agree, if spine and nock height are correct it makes little difference. That said, I shoot cock feather up or in depending on shelf configuration.
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Post by: flyguysc on April 02, 2017, 01:37:00 AM
Up
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Post by: kat on April 02, 2017, 07:36:00 AM
Cock feather out. Just because that is the way I was taught.
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Post by: smokin joe on April 02, 2017, 08:08:00 AM
Once my arrow is well tuned, it doesn't seem to matter where the cock feather happens to be, because good tune minimizes feather contact. That being said, I have had some recurves with some pretty big shelves that were in the way of the feathers no matter how well the arrows were tuned. On those bows, having one of the feathers in the "up" position seemed to reduce contact a bit.
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Post by: stocker56 on April 02, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
For me I get better flight with left hand fletch with cock feather out and right hand fletch with cock feather up
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Post by: monk on April 02, 2017, 03:47:00 PM
What is "out" or "up" in relation to say the points of a compass as you look at the nock end of the arrow from behind?
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Post by: monk on April 02, 2017, 03:48:00 PM
"up" being North parallel to string, West being perpendicular to the string etc.
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Post by: Orion on April 02, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
You got it.  North is cock feather up, West is out, East is in and South is down.
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Post by: nek4me on April 02, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
Due West
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Post by: Mint on April 04, 2017, 09:51:00 AM
Mike Palmer advises cock feather in.
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Post by: on April 04, 2017, 10:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
If the arrow is well matched to the bow, really doesn't make much difference.  I shoot in and out.  Cock feather in seems to give just a tad better clearance.  Some folks really like cock feather up.  If that works, then cock feather down should work just as well.  Hmmmmm.
X2

If a bow and arrow is properly tuned, it won't make any difference.  The fletching will never contact the riser (unless its shelf is very wide); the fletch will bend around it.

Unfortunately, it's been my observation that most "trad" guys shoot arrows that are way too stiff, so they have raise their nocking points and manipulate their fletching to avoid contact.

If we're getting clearance issues, cock feather "in" will have the least contact.

You may find this video interesting:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO102jz8sFM
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Post by: Hermon on April 04, 2017, 10:07:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
You got it.  North is cock feather up, West is out, East is in and South is down.
This of course is for a right handed shooter.  East would be out and West would be in for lefties.
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Post by: Covey on April 04, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
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Post by: Deno on April 04, 2017, 08:00:00 PM
Always out for me, but I may give up and in a try soon since there seems to be more than one way to skin a cat.

Deno
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Post by: tippit on April 04, 2017, 08:50:00 PM
It makes no difference for me...that's why all my feathers are the same color.
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Post by: creekwood on April 05, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
If you are tuned, it won't make any difference.
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Post by: FoCoBlackWidow on April 05, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
Cock feather in for me but "buried" into the corner so that one of the hens is very close to 12 o'clock.