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Title: Arrow Vs. Weapon Penetration Test
Post by: ChiefStingingArrow on March 07, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
Thought this old Video was pretty insightful.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOM4IQjQtM4
Title: Re: Arrow Vs. Weapon Penetration Test
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2017, 05:40:00 PM
Damn, that's awesome..

I can't believe those guns did not do better.
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Post by: SC Bowhunter on March 07, 2017, 06:44:00 PM
cool video.
Thanks for posting it.
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Post by: Bowwild on March 07, 2017, 07:13:00 PM
Pretty neat.  I had heard of similar tests with sandbags but never actually saw it until now.
Thanks!
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Post by: Pointer on March 07, 2017, 08:55:00 PM
Fred Bear used to do a similar demonstration at outdoorsman shows in the '50s using a sandbag to win over any skeptics that the bow was an effective hunting weapon. A .30 cal bullet would not penetrate completely but an arrow off his bow would. He freshened it up by placing a pane of glass behind the bag. His arrow would blow through the bag and shatter the glass for a really dramatic  effect.
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Post by: stujay on March 07, 2017, 09:05:00 PM
interesting
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Post by: crazynate on March 08, 2017, 07:28:00 AM
Cool video.
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Post by: highlow on March 08, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
I joined a local archery club when I got into shooting back in the 70s. We used to do an archery demo at the local state forest day use area every summer. Part of that demo was showing the penetration of a broadhead tipped arrow as opposed to a .30 cal. rifle slug. Basically the same as the video except we used one of those old five gallon metal oil cans with the top cut off and filled with sand. Results were the same and I'm sure those in attendance left with a newfound appreciation of the power of a weapon as simple as a stick and string.
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Post by: ChuckC on March 08, 2017, 05:25:00 PM
On the other side of the game,. Shoot a head of cabbage with an arrow, then shoot it with a .270.
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Post by: flyflinger on March 08, 2017, 08:45:00 PM
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Post by: YosemiteSam on March 09, 2017, 01:02:00 PM
I took my last deer with a .308 a couple years ago.  Shot was less than 30 yards, quartering away.  Although it was a perfect bang/flop with no tracking job required, I was amazed that the bullet never exited.  I didn't find any broken ribs (although I was mostly quartering in the dark).  The bullet did not fragment or tumble -- perfect 4-petal mushroom from a copper bullet.  It just never made it out of the thorax.  From what I've read thus far, a 40# bow should easily out do that.  I'm hoping to find out one of these years...

Granted, a 130 gr. .308 moving at 3000+ fps is putting a heck of a lot of hydrostatic shock on an animal -- something an arrow just can't do.  But raw penetration in tissue is just hard to beat with modern weapons.

Just think what a javelin could do in that same test.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Arrow Vs. Weapon Penetration Test
Post by: Orion on March 09, 2017, 01:13:00 PM
Bullets are made to expand and expend all their energy in the target.

If you want to shoot through a bucket of dirt or a critter, shoot a solid, non-expanding bullet.  Of course, you may not get the critter.  It will die eventually, but likely won't drop in it's tracks unless you hit heavy bone.

We used to show a video similar to this  one in Bowhunter Education classes.  The idea was to demonstrate that the bow really is a lethal weapon, not a toy.  The comparison is quite dramatic, though the result certainly not unexpected.