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Title: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Tedd on February 25, 2017, 10:50:00 AM
My brother-in-law got one of these from a gun forum classified.
http://maximumarchery.net
Consider that he uses a crossbow in archery season this a  step in the right direction.
So does the centershot make tuning easier or harder? What happens with the finger release? No different than a normal bow or does the arrow go beyond center?
Tedd
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Etter on February 25, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
It doesnt bother me, but training wheels are verboten in here
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: 4dogs on February 25, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
Looks like a recurve to me....no wheels or cables. Interesting.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: crazynate on February 25, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
interesting bow. I wonder how it shoots
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: McDave on February 25, 2017, 04:16:00 PM
I've always heard that the tip of the arrow should be a little outside of the centerline of the bow for a finger release.  The act of releasing the string with the fingers throws the nock end of the arrow a little to the outside which will hopefully line up better with the tip if it is also a little outside the centerline.  Olympic archers obsess about this for hours until their plungers are positioned and adjusted just right to accomplish this, among with fine tuning the spine.  I doubt if the shoot through center shot rest is optimized for a finger release.  It may be optimized for a mechanical release that doesn't kick the nock end to the outside like a finger release does.

I think trad bowyers have put a lot of thought into where to locate the strike plates on their bows, which are probably better optimized for our use than a shoot through center shot rest.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: BAK on February 25, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Shoot through bow designs have been around for decades.  Nothing new here.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Tedd on February 25, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
The slow motion videos look like they have some  good and some bad arrow flight.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: ChuckC on February 26, 2017, 09:28:00 AM
Interesting.  Looks to me that you need a release of some sort to get best tuning out of that. Rest is similar in appearance to a whisker biscuit.  They say it is ambidextrous by simply moving the sight pins and quiver to the other side, which of course makes actually putting an arrow into the allotted slot interesting.   Might be fun for him shooting targets.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Sam McMichael on February 27, 2017, 08:00:00 AM
Looks interesting, but I think I'll just stick with my Hill style bows.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 27, 2017, 08:07:00 AM
You might get the best flight with a pinch grip using arrows with a built in flare. If te bow has a high draw, then I'm sure Itll take some serious grip strength to draw back. But Atleast it would get rid of the side kick of normal hooked draws.

Kyle
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: reddogge on February 27, 2017, 08:21:00 AM
Nothing new here. The Sabo has been around since the 70s and it was center shot adjustable for finger shooting.

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/Sabo%20rear_zpsuswjr4ae.jpg)
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: ChuckC on February 27, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
The appearance in that Sabo picture shows a plunger, meaning that the arrow comes off the shelf just as it does on a "normal" bow, pushing off on side or another.  

Just wondering what a biscuit or drop away rest does to the arrow when using fingers and the resultant desire of the arrow to push off of the side plate ( that isn't necessarily there).

I believe Frank Eicholtz also had a shoot thru bow developed in the 50's or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: KeganM on February 27, 2017, 11:08:00 AM
That bow/company caused a stink on another forum a few years ago.

If memory serves, the salesman was marketing to compound/rifle converts by suggesting that with a sight and whisker biscuit it made for a better hunting bow than any "conventional" recurve, with unmatched performance, pin point accuracy, etc..

They tried that pitch with traditional shooters. The price was even higher and the attitude rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. They dropped the price some and removed a lot of the more aggressive sales pitches, but it doesn't look like the changed the bow.

For the money there are a LOT of nicer options IMO, but hey, if it gets another person enjoying archery that's great!
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: Tedd on February 27, 2017, 09:35:00 PM
It's definitely not something I would use. But I'll have to get him started. Then I'll wheel out a few custom wood bows. 1 step at a time!
Title: Re: Shoot through center shot and finger release
Post by: JamesV on March 01, 2017, 03:45:00 AM
The Delta V by bear was similar but was a compound.