I have never had the opportunity to hunt hogs in Texas but came across a story stating they approved poisoning them to get rid of them.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fearing-feral-hog-apocalypse-texas-approves-drastic-measures/ar-AAnbswK?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
I bait food - would not other animals eat it as well? Seems crazy silly to me.
I read this
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/21/hunters-fight-so-called-feral-hog-apocalypse-in-texas.html
Ha the Fox story says 12,000 and the msn says 1200 signed petition already - typical.
They need to do something as shooting them is not staying ahead of them....
Only problem is the bait they put out could be eaten by Javis or deer and they could be poisoned also. Not a good idea. No matter what you do you are not going to get rid of them, they multiply too quickly and are already established.
I love pig hunting, but i have to wonder about this move??? I understand that landowners do not like/want pigs, and that they cause a lot of damage to farming enterprises.
Poisoning them just scares the begeeses out of me. I sure would like to know more before I could ever back this ruling.
Bisch
Years ago I sat in a presentation on a poison/bait system some Australians were trying to develop and gain traction with. They were having a tough time getting it legalized in Australia and were trying to do the same in Texas. They had measures to keep other animals from ingesting the poison, but with that said I would be very hesitant - would not prescribe - to poisoning them. That goes into too many grey areas.
I never had the chance to hunt hogs but I would love to. I wish it wasn't so much money to go on a hog hunt. I think poisoning any animal in the wild is a bad idea. If anybody knows of cheap hog hunts in Texas I would be interested. Granted I know me getting a pig or two doesn't really help the problem but I would love to get some pigs
It's troubles me that they want to poison the hogs but the neighbor charges $150 a day to hunt them.
Why not go with hunting to control the population and make a profit?
Mike
A lot of the landowners want them gone but will not let you hunt them without paying so they sort of deserve the results
A lot of the landowners want them gone but will not let you hunt them without paying so they sort of deserve the results
Not only are hogs, deer, and javelina threatened, but any scavenger that feeds on the carcass is in danger as well. How long does it take to kill a pig with the poison? If a human shot a pig that had eaten the poison, is that human now in danger?
They are pushing to allow it here in Louisiana as well......
I have the same concerns
I have my concerns about it too. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of info on the possible downsides either. They're a problem here, but I don't know that poison is a good idea. Hunting them does very little to control the population though honestly. Our lease is around 2k acres, and they come and go depending on water. But I know we've trapped or shot over 100 in a deer season before and not even put a dent in them. And as the landowner's agent on this property I'm hesitant to let people I don't know hunt because you just can't trust folks unfortunately.
I know people that have let others come in and hog hunt for free on their place and they've torn up roads/pastures on 4 wheelers and in 4wd trucks, killed deer, left gates open and beer cans everywhere, let cows out or in pastures they don't belong in, and even stolen stands, feeders and cameras. There's just no easy solution.
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Bisch
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It's troubles me that they want to poison the hogs but the neighbor charges $150 a day to hunt them.
Why not go with hunting to control the population and make a profit?
Mike
Its pretty simple, hunting has proven incapable of controlling them. The problem Texas has is that the owners of one farm don't want any hogs. The owners of the the neighboring farm want hogs to sell hunting opportunities. The hogs don't know they are supposed to stay on a certain farm, so they go to the farm that doesn't want them. They destroy a lot of ground and cost farmers lots of money (i.e. their livelihood). Can't blame the famers that don't want an invasive species tearing up their land.
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Haha you're welcome any time bud!!
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Same for you Bisch, anytime y'all wanna go!!
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Heard that Bisch? Sounds like we need to plan a hunt together!
I'm in SE Texas by Lake Sam Rayburn and own 100 acres with direct access to the Angelina Nat'l Forest to my Southern fence. Hogs have invaded our area in the past 8 years to epic amounts however, hunting them is very difficult. I spend a considerable amount of time walking in the afternoons, stumpshooting with my longbow and have only encountered two hogs in the past 5 years. The hogs in our area are primarily nocturnal and don't come out until 2:00 to 4:00 AM as proven by trail cameras, plus they have run off most of our deer population, more than the Good 'Ole East Texas night hunter.
They are rooting my roads and pasture so I bought a trap about 6 months ago. The hogs here are very leery of traps and I have only caught 2 so we have a huge dilemma. As opposed to poisoning as I am, hunting seems futile and with the growing population as I have seen in the past few years, there is no easy solution. They breed faster than rabbits and will soon completely take over our area. Tannerite with a trip-wire might be the only solution. :bigsmyl:
I hate pigs but I love shooting them. I think a big boar is as challenging as a mature buck. I live in south central Texas and I have killed lots of pigs and also have trapped lots of pigs. I'm a little skeptical of all the damage that the experts claim they do. They do root up crops but I have not seen the amount of damage that you read about. I've been hunting on a cattle ranch for the past 8 yrs that has several oat/grain pastures and the damage is always minimal. This year was the worst for pigs. The mild weather and a rain fall really boosted their numbers. To me the biggest problem with pigs is that they chase you deer away. I had several stands that were taken over by pigs and the deer would not come to it. I'm not in favor of poisoning but I think that would work to keep the numbers down.
The biggest mistake people make with traps is letting the pigs go for what ever reason. Its my opinion that once you let them go they will not be retrapped.
So why is so many farmers reluctant to let people to hunt them?
Because people are worse than hogs! Generally speaking!
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A lot of the landowners want them gone but will not let you hunt them without paying so they sort of deserve the results
Exactly, you will never catch me paying someone to hunt a hog, at least not in Texas or any other state where the problem is so bad they are considering having to poison them. Some of these places act like they are taking you on a fully guided elk hunt or something, and then try to kill them off by the truck load when hunting doesn't do the trick.
Not a good idea...once you let that genie out of the bottle there are long term and often unintended consequences that go well beyond what was intended.
The drug they are planning on using is Warfarin. Warfarin first came on the commercial scene in 1948 as a rat poison. It has since been developed as a drug and is used on folks that have certain heart conditions to prevent blood clots.
I believe given at higher dosages it can cause internal bleeding. I believe it causes the hogs lungs and/or other internal organs to hemorrhage thus they drown in their own blood or bleed to death. I am not totally certain of how it kills the hog but I think I remember reading somewhere that is what happens. I would have to research it more to know for certain.
I understand it can be neutralized in the human body with shots of vitamin K and if one discontinues taking it will all be gone from the body in 3 days. Not sure if this is factual either but it is some of the stuff I have read.