Just a curious question! With all the skinny carbons and FOC, EFOC, UEFOC, etc... I was just wondering if there were any diehard aluminum fans still out there? I've been on the carbon train for a while now, but I'm going to do a U-turn and head back to my roots for a while.
This is not a carbon/aluminum debate, just an innocent question!
Thanks in advance
I do and will until they are no longer available.....I have a large stock though, so it won't be any time soon.....
Me! I love aluminum. Its durable, its cheap, what's not to like?
I've recently started shooting aluminum again since my compound days back in the '90's. My lower poundage bows shoot 2016's better than anything else. Just a point weight change and I'm ready to go. Hassle free tuning.
Just bought some 2018's today. I like carbons, but aluminums are straighter, unless I buy .001 carbon shafts. My arrow spinner shows it. Guy I buy my arrows from is great, but I have to tell him to cut so much from both ends all the time, if the carbons are .003-.006.
XX75 2016 Game getters and Legacys. For stumping I foot my 2016s with 2 1/2" of 2215 I think they are.
I actually put the insert in the 2215 shaft. They hold up really well.
Aluminums are all I shoot. Love em!
I'm impressed! I'm an aluminum fan myself. I've give the carbons a fair shake, but I'm ready to feel the chill of some camo hunters!
I shot wood for twenty years, aluminum for the last ten. I've never used carbon.
Last fall I used 2018 easton shafts that belonged to my father. I just recently got some from 3 Rivers.
Those old gamegetters could be a little soft if you weren't careful with your shooting. The newer version is the much tougher XX75 alloy.
I always figured as long as it was working I wouldn't change it. Give me aluminum any day.
GameGetters, Tributes, Legacy - I like and shoot aluminums. With such a wide range of sizes, you can really tune the arrow to the bow while keeping your point weights the same, from bow to bow. That is very appealing. Platinum Plus will be my next shafts.
I gave carbon a try for a couple of years, and I love wood; but I ALWAYS have a stash of aluminum arrows ready to go. :thumbsup:
I am new to trad but prefer aluminum to carbon when it makes sense for the bow. I like not having to flex the arrow after each shot to make sure it's safe (I've had several carbon shafts explode when shooting from a compound and broke a few with trad bows) and I can cut them with a tube cutter myself instead of an expensive saw (which I do not own). They also seem to be much more consistent in weight. Lancaster has all the aluminum shafts you need if you do your research.
Aluminums only. I've got quite a stock of them for my various needs.
2018, 2117, 2215, 2216, 2419
I shoot Easton Legacy 1918's in my 40 and 45# bows and 2016 in my 50# bow. I still have some vintage game getters and XX75 autumn orange shafts in 2117,2016,and may have some 2018's around here somwhere. Great for targets and hunting but can be risky for stumping if you have hard stumps or alot of rocks like I do around here.
2117 and 2018 for more years than I want to admit.
Can you install the various lighted nocks with these ?
QuoteOriginally posted by dirtguy:
Me! I love aluminum. Its durable, its cheap, what's not to like?
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I recently bought a dozen 2219 Super Slams. They will be my 2017 3d arrows.
DDave
Diehard here. 2018's have been, and will continue to be my choice. A great shaft. Small diameter, tough as hell, and fly great. No reason to switch.
My son shoots aluminums, I was going to get him some Surewoods, he flat out told me, no. I do much of the time. Mine are 27 bop 1918s, i shoot them out of my low 50s longbows.
I started with aluminum and woodies.I shot them for years.I shoot carbon alot and still shoot carbons.I like thier durability and penetration.I have had good luck with Carbon Express Heritige models.
I still shoot aluminums and when you know what spine you need its very easy to just buy them and shoot them and your good to go.I typically like the smaller diameters for hunting.Like 2020s,2018s and 2016s.The 2020s and 2018s are really nice with thier thicker walls for durability and grain weight for hunting
Nothing beats aluminum arrows for consistency, straightness, ease of setup (vast range of size and spine available) relatively low cost etc. None of this "glue in or on extra stuff" to get to a hunting wt arrow either like with carbon. They have been trying to make carbons as straight and consistent as aluminum for 30 years.... still can't compare.
Just glue on feathers and a nock, cut to length, glue in an adaptor and go.
I killed 2 bucks and a doe this year with 2215's....no complaints at all (from me)! I probably have 20 dozen aluminum arrows and shafts of different sizes laying around here.
R
To be honest, I haven't shot aluminum since I shot wheelie bows back in the mid 90's. Like most people, I turned to carbon but here in recent months, I have returned to wood. I just feel more in tune with wood.
Well there's a pretty good handful of ya! I've tried to get the carbons to be as consistent as my old aluminums with no success. They are my some super straight carbons, but man are they expensive! I can buy a dozen 2117 for at least 20 bucks less than a half dozen high end carbons. I know guys have great success with em, but I'm all about cheap, consistent, no brainer put some fletching on and go these days. I shot aluminums for several years so I know what works and that's what I'm gonna stick with!
Thanks for all the post fellas
I have shot carbons for a while. But always turn back to alum. they are much easier to tune.
2018's for me! I shoot wood as well and have never bothered messing with carbons. It's funny how some of my carbon buddies refer to my "fat arrows" when shooting 3D. It has helped up my score on occasion!
Started shooting with 2016 and 2018 game getters in 1981.
Now, when I'm shooting alloy, 2117 are
in the quiver!
Shot a sucker in the crik last week with one! :thumbsup:
I shoot aluminum also. XX75 1916's and 2016's both shoot equally well for me with just a point weight change. They are straight and easy to work with and I see no need to consider any other shaft material.
I do...although I have carbons mixed in at times...I routinely look for 2117 super slams and buy them when I find them. Aluminum is just so easy to work with.
2016 Tribute shafts
I use all three, wood, alum, and carbon. I have ample supplies of all three. But for ease of tuning, ease of pulling from targets aluminums get the nod.
I shoot aluminums. Legacy's and camo Hunter's 2016's.
I shoot 2016's from my #50 bows with 125 grain points. Arrows are about 29 inches in length.
I just love the romance of wood but I have to say , it's hard to beat aluminum​ .
As far as carbons goes . , :scared: :scared: :scared:
I shoot aluminums 90% of the time. I've done a lot with carbons and heavy weight up front but I'm not impressed. I like trusted aluminums.
For those shooting 2016's. What weight bow, length, and point weight?
I shoot 2317s with two of my bows and 2419s with another.
I prefer aluminum for my regular form practices, stump shooting, small game, and some big game.
I hope I have enough 2419s to last me for the rest of my life (I'm almost 64) because they don't make them anymore.
I also use cedars for big game, especially to economize my 2419s.
I've never tried carbons although I've been given some.
Is there a good place out there to get some of the hard to get sizes, maybe 2219's or 2419's?
Yep. That's all I shoot. rat'
hunted with them this past season..2016s off my '73 kodiak
Ljohns, 2016, 29" BOP with a 175g broadhead flies excellent out of my 45# recurve.
I've never shot anything else. 2016's, 2018's, 2020's and 2117's for my bows.
I just ordered another half dozen 2117's to go with the other couple dozen I already have so I aught to be good for a while!
I am a switch hitter. My main set up is carbons because of how much weight I can put up front, but I also shoot 29" BOP 2016 Legacys with a 125gr point out of my 45lb longbow. They shoot great.
Ive been shooting a lot of 2016, 2020 and 2117 recently.
I shoot mostly aluminum and some wood. I have some 1820 that are tough and penetrate like crazy at 620 grains. Love em. What glue do you guys use to attach feathers to bare aluminum? I use Sanders with pretty good results but I'd like to know what Easton uses on their factory arrows. You can't hardly cut those vanes off them factory arrows.
I've always used the fletching tape with great results. Haven't had one come off yet. I do use a little dab of fletchtite on the front and back for a smooth transition.
Always Fletchtite! Have used Bohning fletch tape on some with good results.
Maybe, call Easton and ask.
I use 2016's out of my 50 # bows ,I draw to 27 1/2 and use 145 grain heads and 28 1/2 length arrows
I still shoot aluminums from a Gen 3 T-Bird 48@28 (B50 string) and it bare shaft tunes a 29" 1916's with 200gr points perfect,,, the arrow for this bow is usually pointed with a 200gr Magnus MA1 or Snuffer 160 with long aluminum adaptor (depending on back quiver or bow quiver),,,,, its so perfect I have no need to try another arrow from this bow.....
I prefer Al, though I shoot carbon, too. See some really good looking wooden arrows on this site and get tempted to try something in that line, too.
Was just going through some arrow inventory and grabbed a few 1916 Legacy's. Was super impressed how well they flew, alot less finicky than my carbons.
Aluminum is all I shoot. I bought a half dozen carbons years ago, never liked them. Went back to aluminum with no regrets!!
I was moving over to all woods years back, then I was given a gross of 1918s with glue on one piece ferrules and screw on ferrules. They flew just right out of my current bows. However, it seems that the guys that I supply with arrows, \\ prefer woods. I turned over over a Schulz to a guy this week, I offered him aluminums to go with it, but he wanted woods, I turned the bow that he turned back to me, over to a kid that I gave a recurve to and he also wanted woods. So there goes my my stash of Surewoods and tapered cedars again. I was going to buy the shafts for for him, but ones that I had on hand worked just right, so I will be replacing my stash for the next bow I have coming for myself instead. That will give the freedom to use what ever spine would be best for the new bow, so I am OK with it.
Shoot mostly aluminum with some wood and bamboo. I've always like aluminum but decided to try the more expensive carbons to see what all the hype was. Definitely tougher, but still not unbreakable. I shot them until one snapped right after release. I usually tested them by listening for any crackling when doing the bending test, but got careless and forgot with this one. Luckily, it did not imbed into my hand or wrist when it snapped into two. I had shattered a few other carbons before that, but always when my bad shots hit something hard, like a rock, cement, etc. I much prefer a bent aluminum shaft than a shattered carbon that might poke through my hand!
And as much as I've shot wood in the past, I've been lucky enough to never have one snap or shatter upon release. Oh, I've busted plenty of them when they've hit trees and rocks and such. My Home Depot bamboo stake arrows have never broken after several years - hope I didn't jinx them by saying that!
But aluminum are by far my favorite!
Could someone point me in the right direction for some aluminums for a bow around 50@28, and I draw to 29.5?
I have some 2114's, would they work?
My arrow will have to be at least 29.75".
I use 2018 from a 52#@29.5 and 2114 from my 47#@29 bows. Both full length with 145 up front. Work very well for me out of recurves. Have carbons but am thinking of selling them off as aluminum just tunes better for me is seems less picky. Bent aluminum goes into the squirrel/bunny pile with flu-flus. Worst case they make interesting tomato stakes.
Daniel, shoot 'em they may fly great for ya!
2016, or 2018 would work, also.
I shoot 2117 at that weight.
What inserts do I need for them? I just realized I don't have any for these arrows?
Anyone have 1/2 dozen full length 2018's they wouldn't mind parting with?
QuoteOriginally posted by DanielB89:
Could someone point me in the right direction for some aluminums for a bow around 50@28, and I draw to 29.5?
I have some 2114's, would they work?
My arrow will have to be at least 29.75".
My bet is 2114 will be too weak for 55#, esp at the length you need them. I think you would be much better off with 2018.
As far as inserts go, they are pretty much specific to the shaft. You need to order some inserts for a 2114 shaft.
Edit: I just looked on Eastons site and 2113-2117 uses the same insert.
Bisch
Daniel I might be able to fix you up I have some bare shafts 2018 a few have nocks but most just bare shaft no feathers or inserts almost 31" long.Kip
Aluminum (2016 @ 2115) and wood are the best. One day I'll try carbon to say I did, but I'm not one fixing what isn't broke.
I shoot 1916 camo hunters out of my long bow and 2016(500) game getters out of my recurve. I like aluminum because you can get a decent weight arrow with out weight tubes or putting 300 plus grains up front.
29" 2016 Legacy with 125-145 head. 496gns. Wicked shot from my N.M. Whisper.
Kip is helping me out! I am excited to see if what I hear about them is true!
Daniel arrows,nocks,and inserts on the way.You will need glue on both nocks and inserts.Hope it works out well for you.Kip
I shoot aluminum arrows almost exclusively. 2020s for a 59# Pronghorn 3-piece. 2117s, 2018s, and 2016s for several recurves. Aluminums seem to recover quicker after release than carbon arrows I have tried.
I finally settled on a 2219 for my Kanati. Bareshaft and paper tuned, best flight I've had out of any shaft. I'm happy!
Thats good Covey , for in the end its not the shaft or the head or bow that takes game , but the person behind all of it . just as now the choices we make are everything that matters , its personal . The time spent getting everything right , leading up to the moment you decide to take a life . To me it is very personal , almost spiritual , the moment I release the string everything is in slow motion , til the arrow hits the mark , then a some what odd feeling of gilt or remorse . Carry what you choose with confidence and be successful .
I hunt with carbons (Beman Centershot 500) but I have a bunch of 1916's that I use for 3D, the arrows are within 1gr of each other so it really works out well.
I had a dozen 1918s 24rst with both ends swaged. They were the right length for a local fellow trad shooter, with 145 grain heads they were also the perfect spine. I made six field points and six with 145 Ribtec broadheads. he knows that they are rare and not replaceable and is as protective of them as a mother hen. He already asked if he could borrow my deer cart for when he puts one through a deer, he seems pretty sure of himself.
I have aluminums, carbons (various) and wooden shafts. Play with all from time to time. Usually wind up shooting either 2016s or 3555 GTs
I'm an alum. arrow shooter also, I hunt with a Black Widow at 55@29". I mostly shoot 2117s and 2215s and I don't have any problems with penetration or durability
I always shot aluminum or carbons until I got my hands on some sure wood shafts. can't stop the wood arrows unless I find a good supply of bamboo. I will shoot "Douglas-fir" or Bamboo.
Ive shot wood a lot too but aluminum is hard to beat.
About all I shoot anymore.
I got the arrows in from Kip. I am assuming I need to get me a little stiffer spine. I'm not sure why, but I seem to always need a stiffer than usual spine.
I am going to try to get my hands on some 2117's and then go from there.
I love wooden arrows , but my bow doesn't.
Haven't found anything that shoots better out of my Savannah than 2018's.
I've been shooting an old Grizz for a few years now and when I go to the range or 3D shoots my quiver is filled with miss matched wood, carbon and aluminum. After a while I kept noticing the one 2016 gamegetter would always hit where I wanted and flew straight. So I finally traded a guy one of my quivers for a dozen autum orange eastons and love them!!
Aluminum is the most consistent arrow shaft on the planet, shaft to shaft.
I love good tapered wood too but aluminum is durable unless you are shootin thin wall shafts.
I,ve played with carbon some but I damaged more carbon shafts than I have aluminum.
QuoteOriginally posted by DanielB89:
I got the arrows in from Kip. I am assuming I need to get me a little stiffer spine. I'm not sure why, but I seem to always need a stiffer than usual spine.
I am going to try to get my hands on some 2117's and then go from there.
My Kanati is 54# @ 28" I pull 29". One would think I could shoot a 2117 but I always need a stiffer spine. I had to go all the way to a 2219 with a 150 grn head and I get really good flight.
I shot my first whitetail with cedar arrow but switched to aluminum shortly after and have stayed with aluminum xx75s. I did just recently buy a dozen carbons & I'll finally get to tune & cut them to length tomorrow.
Wish I could find some of those old 2216 Jim Doughtery super naturals.
I have shot only aluminum or wood for 40 years, Never saw a reason to leave them. Right now I'm using 2020's out of my 57 lb recurve and 2016's out of my 54lb longbow both with 175 gr upfront and at 28" I watch my buddies messing with carbons trying to get the weight up or get them tuned , I just want what works keeping things as simple as possible. For me that's aluminum
I haven't shot aluminum in 27 years and have never shot a carbon arrow. I shot aluminum when I shot a compound bc,(before carbon). I have only shot wood since I went back to traditional.
Jack
I like aluminum. Unfortunately the dozen and a half XX75 2117 I have are now too weak for my new limbs, especially with the Zwickey Deltas I was using..
Now looking for a XX75 2216 to try.
A bit heavy, but the bow I shoot really sucks up the extra weight without a lot of lost speed.