Hey y'all...I was wondering which brand and style of head loppers you prefer? I am considering the muzzy, the tom-bomb, and the magnus bullhead at this point. Heard that guillotines are fragile. Was hoping some of you could clue me in on successes or failures of head removal surgeries!
Following this post...Idk if im brave enough to try it yet, but ive sure been thinking about it!
I have used bullheads in the past and shot birds. Ended up going back to my VPAs. Turkeys are tough and shot choice and placement is critical no matter what style broadhead is used. Good luck this spring!!
I have seen a bunch of videos of people doing it, but people don't usually post unsuccessful hunts lol. I was hoping to find someone that has tried a few or had very good success with a certain broadhead.
Why not just use a big standard head like a big 3 or treeshark? Then you could try a head shot or body shot either one. just my two cents.
I'd heed Warden609 very strongly. He and a good friend of his are two of the most experienced, conscientious turkey traditional bowhunters I know.
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I have used bullheads in the past and shot birds. Ended up going back to my VPAs. Turkeys are tough and shot choice and placement is critical no matter what style broadhead is used. Good luck this spring!!
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I sent a bullhead into a brush pile once ( on purpose of course :D ) can't tell that one from the brand new head. IMO very durable broadhead. Unfortunately that's the only experience I've had due to a dwindling turkey population
There is a head on the market called a turkey lopper, by Hartcraft ( sold under several brand names). I have been experimenting with it as an aerial head for pheasants and such. The base head is a sort of standard replaceable blade head, and with certain blades could be used for deer, but with the lopper blades, which face forward, it is meant to do as you are asking. So far they fly quite well out of an ASL longbow. I shoot them at weed heads and such as well as at pheasants.
Didn't have a lot of pheasant op's this year and although I removed tails and clipped wing feathers, did not kill one.
Might look at them.
Only one I have any experience with is 125grn. Magnus Bullhead , killed 5 turkeys with same head , replaced one bent blade , other than that just touch up blades with stone and hunt .
I've tried to use bullheads the past 2 seasons - couldn't get a tom to cooperate with me, so my experience is with target practice. Shooting them at a pillow, & taping it up, like they suggest. I've broken 1 complete head and about 10 blades. Wouldn't call em durable.
I've personally been through this dilemma as well.... Hit some Birds exactly where I was aiming and should have resulted in quick humane recoveries, not so... I then went the Magnus Bullhead route so I would either Kill it quick or not wound it, not so.... Had a beautiful mature strutter at 12 yards, I hit him in the crease of the bottom edge of waddles as it was tight to the body in strut. Hit him hard and he ran off. Blood at impact, two bloody bent blades & one broken blade on the bullhead... All day of searching with no recovery. I know the shot may not have been perfect, but it was within 1" or so of my intended spot. A good shot for sure and I wounded that Bird, heart breaking and sad to wound them... I am back to shooting them in the body with a heavy large diameter three blade. 250 Grain 1-1/4" VPA 3-Blade. Turkeys will always be challenging. Practice, practice, practice, and be PATIENT, PATIENT, PATIENT with your shot selection and KNOW the vital anatomy.... String trackers can be useful as well. I certainly can't argue with the success some have with head shot broadheads, but it is not risk free. Just an eyes wide open type of summary. Everyone must choose and have confidence in their setup....
Gobble, Gobble, the time is coming :goldtooth:
There was a good thread last year about shooting them in the Noggin and had some good info in it... Here was my response and some pics referring to Understanding Anatomy being the biggest deal no matter what you're shooting at... Everyone has their own experiences and convictions :goldtooth:
X3 for Whip... Again, understanding the anatomy is crucial... Here's a copy of a post I made on Season Update. I aimed for the top of the drumstick @15 yards...
The VPA 250 Grain 1-1/4"Cutting Diameter 3-Blade Broadheads are awesome.....
Entry is on the left (His Right Side) / Exit is on the right (His Left Side)
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Someone needs to make a 3 blade version of the Simmons Treesharks... I think I'd shoot one of those at a turkey noggin! :eek:
I used the Palmer Extreme Cut broad head on my turkey I got last year. The broad head looks like an over sized Phantom and it worked great. I picked up a string tracker to use this year just in case the shoot isn't perfect.
I've killed two turkeys with the same bullhead and it's ready for number three come spring. All I've had to do is touch up the blades and not much at that.
I haven't tried other loppers, but I can vouch for the bullheads. Like any head, shot placement is critical, but a turkey's head is about as big as his vitals. I've seen several run off with body shots. One was with my arrow! I hunt with FAV52 and we are 7-7 with Bullheads so far. You'd be hard pressed to get either of us to switch.
looks like im sticking with the bullheads!