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Title: Short bow dilemma
Post by: trex_arms on February 07, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
So I know the general consensus is short bows create strong pinch and are very unforgiving sure to the sharp angles.  But... What about for guys with short draw lengths? I draw at 25" so I was wondering if it's with me investing in a Bear 48 and trying it out.  It wouldn't be my primary bow but it's something that seriously interests me.  

Thoughts?   :help:
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: 30coupe on February 07, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
Go for it! I've watched video reviews of guys drawing the Super Mag well past 28". I shoot a 52" Kiowa at my 27" draw and have zero finger pinch. My cousin shoots a Kodiak Magnum with the same draw as mine with no complaints. The design of the bow makes more of a difference than the length.

I almost bought a SM instead of the Kiowa, but I wasn't sure I'd like the grip. I certainly wasn't afraid of the finger pinch.

By the way, welcome aboard! I see this is your first post. You've come to the right place if you plan to hunt traditional. You'll get loads of help and support here.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Mark Colangelo on February 07, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
I have heard that short bows also typically generate more hand shock. Does anyone else find that to be true?
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: trex_arms on February 07, 2017, 10:32:00 PM
Thanks!

I'm just hesitant to spend the money on one and shoot terrible with it.  But that sounds ready encouraging.  If a few more people say it's worth it I'll have to get one.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Biathlonman on February 07, 2017, 10:59:00 PM
My 56" Toelke Pika feels exactly like a 64" Whip on the draw.  As mentioned design is a key factor.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: forestdweller on February 07, 2017, 11:26:00 PM
I'd try one out before you buy. The last thing you want is a bow that stacks hard.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: trex_arms on February 07, 2017, 11:28:00 PM
I wish I could try it out, I don't know of a place to try it a bow like that in my area.  Unfortunately traditional archery isn't huge out here.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Snow Crow on February 07, 2017, 11:34:00 PM
Any chance to test drive one?

FWIW,I've had zero finger pinch issues with 2 K Mags, a 52" Pearson, a 50" Browning Cobra, and a 48" SuperMag I've owned.  Draw weights from 44-55#, draw length up to 29+".  I do shoot 3 under, however, and the high string angle does affect the impact of my ring finger on release: my flubbed shots are invariably due to a plucky ring finger.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Stumpkiller on February 07, 2017, 11:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Recurve Addict:
I have heard that short bows also typically generate more hand shock. Does anyone else find that to be true?
My shortest is 56" (I draw 29-1/2") and it is not the hand shock but finger pinch, and general lightless of the bow that makes it harder to hold steady on release.  Just because it is so light and has less inertia.

Not enough to outweigh the benefits.  Shorter, lighter, "snappier" for a given draw.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: damascusdave on February 07, 2017, 11:58:00 PM
Go to the Trad History/ Collecting Forum and read Traps thread entitled "This week in 19__".

DDave
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Cherry Tree on February 08, 2017, 09:03:00 AM
I think you should try it. There is a short bow "fear" out there that I think it is taken a lil to far. Common sense obviously it's not going to have the same feel as other longer bows A big key is getting use to it...get the feel for it, invest the time. Finger pinch ( not that I think you will have any ) is up to you to talorate or get use to because the string is at a different angle that your simply not use to. And not able to be accurate because the bow has now become different and it shows flaws. Why be nervous of a bow that can show you form issues! In the hunting world short bows have advantages some dont realize. My thoughts.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: trex_arms on February 08, 2017, 09:20:00 AM
Looking at the Bear Cheyenne, it's 55" so not as short as the super mag, but still on the shorter end of bow sizes.  I'm thinking that will very well for me.  Thanks for the input guys.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Prairie Drifter on February 08, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
One thing to remember when you have a short draw is powerstroke. Most production short bows have a high brace height(8" or more). This robs performance. I have a short draw also (26"). I shoot bows that are designed for short draws and have low brace heights(6-7"). Maddog bows has several models that are designed for short draws.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 08, 2017, 10:55:00 AM
I have a 50 in. short rcurve going around right now and can get you on the try list if you like.PM me for details.
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Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Will Cocke 2 on February 08, 2017, 10:58:00 AM
Good Looking shorty There Mike!
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Orion on February 08, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Short draw length, shorter bow.  Longer draw length, longer bow.  As simple as that.  Short bow should be perfectly suited to your shorter draw length.  Go for it.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 08, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
Who'd a thunk such a short bow would work so well..... Hmmmm

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Look Ma, no finger pinch and no stack.     :D    

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Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 08, 2017, 11:49:00 AM
A short bow shooting aspirins for the crowd.

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Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: maineac on February 08, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
I have owned and shot a Bear Kmag and Tolke Kestrel.  Both two of my favorite and accurate bows.  Teh Kestrel was #45 and shot the same arrows as my #57 RD longbows.  NO extra handshock and finger pinch was minimal, but my longest bow is 57".
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: fnshtr on February 08, 2017, 05:19:00 PM
I have a 28" draw and have trouble believing how smooth and forgiving the little 54" Elkheart is! No finger pinch either!
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: KAZ on February 08, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
I have a 27-5/8" draw with a Black Widow 54"KB that is sweet.... I shoot three under.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: bowcrazybrad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
I have a 54 inch toelke pika and a 53 inch Javaman Eros recurve. Both are awesome and I draw close to 28. Both bows are just over 1 pound and really great hunting weapons and shoot as well as much longer bows.A joy to carry in the woods.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: ChuckC on February 09, 2017, 07:49:00 PM
I can't imagine any short bow either stacking heavily or pinching greatly at a 25" draw.  I say go for it, you lucky dog.  On a recurve style handle I draw 30" and that bow is probably not in my cards.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: Hatrick on February 09, 2017, 08:09:00 PM
I have 2 old 52" Wing Thunderbirds built back in the late 60's. My draw is 27" and they shoot great. Smooth, stack free to my draw, nice weight micarta riser, and no finger pinch. Great little hunting bows. They don't have to be new to be a great shooting short bow. Just well designed.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: MnFn on February 11, 2017, 12:03:00 PM
Quite a few years ago, I got off kilter and bought a compound. Two years afterwards, one day we had a throwback night at our league where some of us brought our old recurves out to shoot.

I brought my 48" Supermag . At 20 yards my first two shots were in the kill zone. I was actually surprised  by that. My partner said how do you that and I replied "I don't know, but it sure was fun."

I never picked up the compound again. Finger pinch has never really bothered me.
Title: Re: Short bow dilemma
Post by: KevinK on February 11, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
My wife has a Kmag and a 25" DL and it's perfect for her. I own a Bodnik Kiowa (52" as well) and draw to 28.5". I have shot both. Both have finger pinch but the K Mag stacks and the Kiowa does not. At your draw length any 52" recurve should be fine. The SM 48 I have never shot but every review I have ever seen on it is that you either hate it or love it, no in between.