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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: BramosCombat on January 20, 2017, 04:22:00 PM
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Hello everyone, I am looking to pick up a new longbow. I have narrowed my search down to 3 bows. But, I have not shot them, and sadly have nowhere to shoot them. I respect the opinions here, so I figured I ask around here. My experience has been with the Montana and AuSable. I have also shot the Martin Momba as well. if any have similar
1. Byron Ferguson Safari Longbow - 55#
2. Striker Sport Longbow - 53 - 57#
3. Tomahawk Bows _Thunderstorm II - 55#
I am also open to other brands as well if anyone has any suggestions.
I have a 28" draw btw. Also, If anyone would be able to recommend arrows or what they use for a similar rig.
Thank you,
Bramos
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A host of great options....
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They are all good bows. The final answer is yours alone because what "I" like may very well not fit you at all. I hear ya on your location. Tough to work around, but go to one of the large shoots coming up, the really large ones, and spend a day or two. You can shoot till you drop, try out different bows and talk to a lot of folks about the bow in their hands. How a bow feels to you, in your hand, is really half the formula, the other half, maybe, is split between how it looks to you and how it actually shoots.
ChuckC
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Jason Kendall makes a great hybrid longbow (kanati) at a great price ! I'll be ordering another one soon !
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Just a comment. In your signature you list a Bear Montana 40# bow, but you are looking for a bow in mid 50s pound range. I once tried to go from 50# bow to a 55# bow and it caused form problems and took the fun out of shooting for me. If you haven't already, find a bow with 55# pull and try it. I can shoot a 70# wheelie bow all day or a 45-50# traditional for a while. The 55# was work and was too physically demanding to me. I am sure I could work up to it, but a jump from 40# to 55# might take the fun out of shooting.
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Take a look at the Bodnick slick stick. I had one come through recently and I was very impressed with it for an inexpensive bow.
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Check out Mad Dog Archery. Mike builds a fine looking bow for the money. I don't have any personal experience with the ones you listed, so I'm really not much help I guess. ;)
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If you could, attend a trad 3D shoot in your area. That is a great way to handle and even shoot different bows.
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There are a lot of personal preferences in shooting bows. All the bows you mentioned are "good" bows. Will you like them depends upon your personal preferences. Unless I get a heck of a deal, I like to shoot a bow before I buy it. I've driven 8 hours to shoot a bow before buying it before! Good luck choosing!
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New Woods!
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Thank you everyone for your responses. In regard to the draw weight, I have shot 50+# recurve and a lot of 45# long bows.
I draw back 40# very easily. Part of why I want to upgrade.
Has anyone ever shot ny of the bows I mentioned? Any impressions, based on your experience. I know we all like different things but wat do you all think of them?
Best,
Bramos
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KANATI
Jason puts magic in them!!!
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KANATI
Jason puts magic in them!!!
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I've shot a Ferguson, thought it was a dud, lots of better bows out there. I've shot a few strikers though I don't recall a "sport", good bows. Can't help you with the Tomahawk.
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no way I would order any bow without shooting a bunch before hand good advice above take the time go to a shoot then decide IMO, keep your montana for awhile you have a decent bow good luck
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Marin Savannah or Martin Stealth are two beautiful, hard hitting, shooting bows. But as the gentleman before me, I would never just order and pay for a bow without shooting it. Get your hands on the ones that you interested in and also do some research, read the reviews on those bows that you're interested in.
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Of the three you listed, I have shot the Striker and the Tomahawk. While it was pretty and a smooth shooter, the Tomahawk left me a little underwhelmed in the performance Dept. The Striker on the other hand was fast, smooth, light in the hand and for me, pointed like an extension of my hand. A perfect hunting bow IMO. If I wasn't so happy with my Kanati, it would b on my short list.
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I see you are in New York City. That isn't too far away from the Eastern Traditional Archery Rendezvous (ETAR). My suggestion is that before you buy/order a bow, you should shoot it. ETAR is the probably the best place in the world to try out a wide variety of bows. But....maybe you just can't hold off until July and I certainly understand that.
Here's the website for ETAR. It still has 2016 info on it, but they will update it sometime this spring.
http://www.archeryfestivals.com/etar/
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Originally posted by BramosCombat:
Hello everyone, I am looking to pick up a new longbow. I have narrowed my search down to 3 bows. But, I have not shot them, and sadly have nowhere to shoot them. I respect the opinions here, so I figured I ask around here. My experience has been with the Montana and AuSable. I have also shot the Martin Momba as well. if any have similar
1. Byron Ferguson Safari Longbow - 55#
2. Striker Sport Longbow - 53 - 57#
3. Tomahawk Bows _Thunderstorm II - 55#
I am also open to other brands as well if anyone has any suggestions.
I have a 28" draw btw. Also, If anyone would be able to recommend arrows or what they use for a similar rig.
Thank you,
Bramos
IMO the Montana is as good or maybe better than a lot of bows out there. Before I gave my Montana to my son I put a Rick ****** string on it and the performance was as good as any bow that I have ever shot.
:archer2:
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I shot the savannah today. Beautiful bow. Very smooth. Fast bow. I was using my Rosecity Hunter elite arrows with it. That bow slings them. I definitely like the medium sized grip. Thank you everyone for the insights. I am happy to hear different points of view.
Best,
Bramos
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Every bowyer trys to build the best bow for the buck. What I like and what you like may be similar and perhaps not. Its truly subjective. Some will swear to Silver Tips, Some to Mad Dog , some to Chad Holms and all would be right.
Name a specific price range and what you personally want in a bow and the subject will take a lot more less subjective form and perhaps you can get better answers than What I personally like.
God bless, Steve
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Originally posted by Sixby:
Every bowyer trys to build the best bow for the buck. What I like and what you like may be similar and perhaps not. Its truly subjective. Some will swear to Silver Tips, Some to Mad Dog , some to Chad Holms and all would be right.
Name a specific price range and what you personally want in a bow and the subject will take a lot more less subjective form and perhaps you can get better answers than What I personally like.
God bless, Steve
Thank you Steve. My price range is in the $600 - $800 willing to bend a little more flr the roght bow. Quite as in no twang (although i know that can be tamed.) I jave a love for long bows, but inwould like to keep the length from 58" to around 64" the bow will be used for Hunting and 3D. I would like a medium sized grip. I have large hands, but the medium grips feel great. Im not a fan of palm swells in the bow. I realize my original post left some room for interpretation.
Best,
Bramos
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Unfortunately this is hard for someone to pick for you. People can recommend what they like. It every one is different. I think to often guys buys bows strictly by recommendation instead of what's the right bow for them. It why there are so many great bows for sale used. If I could do it over again I wouldnt but a single bow untill I shot enough of them to make a good decision. In my opinion there really isn't an ad now out there. Just find the one that fits you best and is the most comfortable. That will be the one you shoot the greatest. And don't worry about what brands are "popular". I myself love that bear ausable.
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Just posted some Kimsha bows over in the classifieds you can take a look at.
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I believe that there are a whole raft of great bowyers on here that will build you a super nice custom longbow in that range. I would recommend every one of them that is on the sponsor list as being good quality bowyers. Check out our websites and you will be amazed.
God bless, Steve
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Have you thought about calling up some of these fine folks and asking if you can borrow one of thier bows?
My experience is with mass produced bows built by commercial bow companies your not getting the extra mojo that a custom bowyer can potentially give a bow. But if the bow fits no one can argue against you, especially if your shooting a hole through the 12 ring!
If this is new to you then go cheap. I've changed over the last 30 years in what I like in a bow. And as bows continue to improve and my taste improves I'll continue to buy more well designed bow(s).
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For $350 dollar range you can have a Omega R/D Longbow built buy Kegan McCabe. His longbows are suppose to be some of the fastest, most hard hitting hunting longbows being made. Cut to center shelf for easier arrow tuning, and the ability to have your personal favorite grip style. He also backs them with a Lifetime Guarantee.
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Brandon... Check Your PM's Please...
Thanks!
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Originally posted by NE Texas Bowhunter:
For $350 dollar range you can have a Omega R/D Longbow built buy Kegan McCabe. His longbows are suppose to be some of the fastest, most hard hitting hunting longbows being made. Cut to center shelf for easier arrow tuning, and the ability to have your personal favorite grip style. He also backs them with a Lifetime Guarantee.
Exactly what I got when I wanted a longbow. I love my Omega original. It is definitely fast and cheap! I don't mind getting it dirty on a hunt and it hits what I point it, if I do my part. It is a perfect starter longbow but I am anxious to get more experience and shoot some different styles to see if there are some different attributes that I would like.
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To save money I'd be buying from the classifieds.
Lots of terrific bows for prices that will make you cry...especially if you are selling! I've bought several used bows from those classifieds. Every experience has been super positive! "Met" some fine people to boot.
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Toelke--- check out montana bows. Dan makes great bows that shoot as well as they look. Call him before you order anything else---you won't regret it.
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Forgive me -- I'm a bit of a stoic (of the ancient variety).
It's a bow. Not a spouse. Buy the one you find prettiest because they all probably deliver an arrow as accurate and true as any other.
How about keeping the cost under $500 and investing the rest of your budget in a coach to work on your shooting or hunting skills? I assume you're already pretty good (knowing nothing so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt). But we can all get better.
Let's face it, give a good archer one of my amusing attempts to build a selfbow and he/she will probably outshoot me with a full olympic setup. Many experienced hunters in this forum could probably kill more deer with a spear than I could with my .308 (and I'm not that bad with a rifle). Experience and skill trump equipment every time. A bow is a tool, nothing more. The weapon is you.
Or do as the ancients did when faced with needing to make a decision under uncertainty: put the issue in the hands of fate (randomness) by casting lots. Put the names of each bow on a piece of paper & draw names out of a hat. If a clear option is not easily identifiable, then one guess is as good as any other.
Or just buy the one you find prettiest.
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I have a yew Shelton from Northern Mist that is slicker than cat dookey. I would recommend it, but it really comes down to which bow handles best for you and best boosts your confidence.
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I say hold out until Denton hill in July,,, try about 40 different bows and maybe twice that in used and the bow that works will kind of speak to you at the target butts.
you currently shoot 40#??? I'd make sure I was positive I'm ready for 55# though,, its a big jump especially if you plan on shooting alot of arrows each time out..
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Thank you again for all of the help. I have been taking some time to try a few different bows. Funny thing, went to the range the other day and a few of our longbow shooters were there.
I had a chance to shoot the Momba, the Savannah, a Howard Hill, and an Ausable. Fell in love with the Ausable and the Savannah.
Following the advice of some of the members here, I decided to go with a bow I have shot and enjoy the feel of. Looking like I will go with one of those two. I also spoke with a friend of mine there who is a 20 year longbow hunter, and he will be assisting me in getting my form sharper.
I absolutely am thankful for the help and the knowledge on the board. I will take my time before I make the buy. Maybe shoot them a few more times.
Best,
Bramos