I've been ground hunting for a few years now and have come to a conclusion, I gotta get of the ground some. The property I hunt is so hilly I can not ever get a good wind. I love the ground, prefer it, but I've been busted more often than not. Long story short, gonna buy a climber.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Lone Wolf or Summit Open shot. I use my Lone Wolf for short sits, 3 hours or less and my Summit Open Shot for sits 3 hours or longer. My own opinion, the Summit is more comfortable, but slightly heavier and bulkier. The Lone Wolf is lighter and slim which makes it easier for hiking in the thick stuff or longer hikes. But it's not as comfortable as the Summit.
Lone Wolf Assault Hand Climber is light and easy to carry. Will require the sit/strap to get up a tree but it is a nimble package ...and Expensive. Easiest to shoot a bow out of in my opinion. The Summit stands are heavier but slightly more comfortable. They also don't pack down and carry as easy. I own both. If you have any distance to travel, Lone Wolf wins but is a bit harder to learn to use. Very secure once you are at altitude.
Lone wolf assault hand climber. I don't use a sit/climb strap and didn't know that there was such an accessory until I read
The post above and looked at their website . I will look into it more.
I just got a lone wolf assault hand climber and love it. I normally used lock ons with sticks witch i still will in places where i will leave stand for awhile.but for 1 time sits this lone wolf is nice!
I've been using a lone wolf for a long time. Light, quiet, solid. I like it.
Yes...The sit/strap eliminates the forearm stress getting up the tree. Maybe I'm too big but I couldn't get the geometry and leverage using just the seat mechanism to leverage up. I like the 2 cinch straps that are tightened when in final position. Very solid
I have been using a Lone Wolf wide sit-n-climb for years now and it is rock solid, quiet and comfortable. I replaced the seat that came with it with a Hazmore net seat because I always liked the net seat on the Ol' Man climber I had before this one. I've used many types of stands with welded tubular aluminum or steel and expanded metal grate floors and never had one that didn't snap, crackle and pop when the weather gets cold. The cast aluminum platform is the way to go.
Lone wolf alpha hand climber. Had it since '97 I believe and although other gear has come and gone it's my constant companion. Frequently do all day sits in it. Not super comfortable but wouldn't trade it for anything.
I've got a summit that I like but if you have property where you can place numerous stands, I'd go with ladder stands. You can get a 16' stand shipped to your door for 60 bucks. I paid 220 for my summit and have only used it once in the last 6 years.
It's nice to walk to a stand and climb up the tree without packing the stand in and out every time.
Summit recently released a new version called the "Sentry". Looks the same as the "Open Shot" but with a different, flip-up seat. Looks nice.
Here's another vote for the Lone Wolf hand climber! I normally use a Lone wolf strap on stand and Muddy climbing sticks, I can get in any tree my straps can fit around! I just got the hand climber and have used it about 5 times now and really like it, it packs up very slim and is very light. I timed myself 2 times now climbing down and packing the stand up, both times I was under 10 minutes and both times I was over 20ft up in the tree. I normally don't like climbers because they don't pack up well or are noisy but this Lone Wolf hand climber is great!
I prefer the Summits. More comfortable, and in my opinion, easier to use. I had a LW and found the climber too narrow for my forearms to lean on when climbing. I believe there is a wider version available now, but happy with the Summit.
I love my Lone Wolf climber, but I use my old Woods and Water hand climber to get up and down trees. I never could get used to the LW seat/hand climber.
Lonewolf Hand Climber, been using it for a decade.
However, just saw a new video of the XOP with curved bar and spring steel belt....These look like impressive upgrades that I may have to finally look at replacing my lonewolf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5HsPkigx0Y
This is so subjective like so many things it will boil down to hunting style and personal choice. I've used many on the market, including the Lone Wolf hand climber and numerous Summits, API's, Loggy Bayou's, and various loc-on styles.
There is no one answer. The Summit Viper is by far the most comfortable and easy to climb, but very hard to shoot out of with a stick bow. The Summit Open Shot (I have the Cobra) is comfortable and offers more shot opportunities but the arm rests still get in the way.
The Lone Wolf hand climber offers much more shot options, but with that comes limited comfort as it's basically a minimal loc-on style seat. I also though it was very uncomfortable to climb with. I'm 6'1", 240lbs and have been a weight lifter for 20 years. The angle and placement of where you have to put your arms was too tight for me and pretty uncomfortable to climb with.
My favorite was just the base of the old Loggy Bayou stands - I hugged the tree instead of using the climbing aid. Fastest and easiest climb for me, but not safe. In fact, I fell from it, and my Dad fell out of one as well to serious injury. So...it went to the rack for good.
I like the API's as well, but they are not quite as solid as they have a narrow notch that hits the tree.
After all that, I choose the Summit open front style (there have been many names and variations over the years). It's the best for me when weighing the variables. It's very comfortable and solid, it's relatively easy to climb with, it's quiet, and it does still allow a decent range of motion for a longer bow. For stick bow hunting - it's hard to beat a loc-on or ladder stand though, but sometimes you just need a climber. I still do 90% of stand hunting from a climber.
You know Jonathan that's a good point about the LW climber. I can see where climbing might be harder for some. I'd say that if someone can't do a pull up that may not be the stand for them. Six years ago I tore my left bicep near the insertion with the forearm. To this day I feel it a bit using the climber cause it puts some strain there. Still worth it to me though.
I feel I'm relatively fit. I don't have a problem doing chin-ups, dips, etc... I'm not a stranger to climbing stands, just never been a fan of em. I much prefer my pac seat and the ground, but I'm really getting frustrated with the finicky, fickle winds that swirl through these hollers so I'm gonna have to change things up a bit! I'm liking the looks of the lone wolf for its packability and they seem to be rock solid. I've never been an all day sitter, but comfort is a factor! Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it!
The XOP ambush climber looks pretty sweet, first I've heard of them.
Lone wolf not the assault but the first one - it has bigger platform I like the foot room.
It gets no better than the lone wolf - easy to pack easy to get on tree QUIETLY easy to climb r descend lightweight you can pack it forever.
You just missed a great sale on the as they are pricey but worth it. Had mine forever.
I am putting military rucksack shoulder and waist belt on mine as I saw some man on YT had done.
I'm a big fan of the discontinued Loggy Bayou. I've tried newer climbers but always come back to the loggy. You can still get them on auction from time to time.
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I feel I'm relatively fit. I don't have a problem doing chin-ups, dips, etc... I'm not a stranger to climbing stands, just never been a fan of em. I much prefer my pac seat and the ground, but I'm really getting frustrated with the finicky, fickle winds that swirl through these hollers so I'm gonna have to change things up a bit! I'm liking the looks of the lone wolf for its packability and they seem to be rock solid. I've never been an all day sitter, but comfort is a factor! Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it!
I love ground blinds but had to go back to a stand because of the deer circling the blind and not coming in while I was in blind.
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Buy once. Get a lone wolf hand climber
I should add that weight is not as important to me when talking about a climber simply because I end up strapping my pack and extra clothing layers onto my stand most of the time so I end up packing a heavy stand up and down the WV mountains often. So the couple of lbs. difference between the newer Summits and the Lone Wolf is a moot point for me after adding all the other "stuff" I tend to carry. That's offset by replacing the straps with quality packing straps.
The best thing is that we all have so many viable options now. I grew up hunting out of my Dad's home-made Baker "look-alikes" that weighed 35lbs, required you to either stand on the base all day, or sit facing the tree.
I should say that I've only had experience with the Lone Wolf Assault hand climber, not the larger "Combo II" and not the even larger sit-and-climb model. I can't justify the nearly $500 price tag on the larger one.
Yeah cry once! lol
I tried the assault and didn't like that smaller platform? I like the larger one, combo II I stay stood most time anyhow as e only con of the LWs is the seat, it ain't terrible but ain't the best either.
I do the same with my little knapsack too, strap it to the stand, carry my "stuff". the weight don't bother me either, I like how easy and flat it packs, how easy it is to set up. If I can get that in a 22lb package great! If a 17 lb package even better. Comfort aint all there but that is fine.
Best luck on your choice, wish there was a "try out" day for stands?? Let you feel em and test em before you buy! They do that for kayaks have "paddle days"! Maybe have tree stand days!
Jason,
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Jonathan
The problem with climbers around here is that the trees that it will climb are never in the right spots, we have have a lot of branchy assed bur oak around here.
The Lone Wolf does scoot right up the basswoods nice enough.
I'm kinda think'n a lock on with climbing sticks. The Lone Wolf lock on looks really good. You guys with experience, how long does it take to get one up with the climbing sticks?
Used several different climbers over the years but in my book Treewalker beats them all, hands down. Made in TN they are light weight, extremely safe and very comfortable.
Used a lot but have pretty much settled on the L/W climber and Chippawa wedge loc with L/W sticks, those two and a couple of cheaper chain ons pretty much covers it for me. Used to do the Baker thing and the hug the tree with the Loggy base method but have gotten smarter I hope with age.
When I got into my cabin on third hill mountain in WV, humping those mountains with a tree stand on my back opened my eyes. At the time I was using a equalizer, hell of a nice stand but it was heavy. Did some research and ended up getting a X Stand sit and climb, bought it directly from the inventor in Winchester VA. It weighs 12.5 pounds and for a climber, that is about as light as they come....