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Title: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: ProAlpine on January 02, 2017, 11:53:00 PM
I have admired the beauty of crested arrows for some time now and think I would like the project of making my own, except for one thing - Are you concerned about breakage and damage after spending time making a thing of beauty?

When I'm shooting pretty much anything other than a foam target I tend to damage quite a few arrows. Do you have separate arrows for stumping, target practice and hunting? Which do you spend the most time on cresting and generally making pretty?

For those that do crest carbons, what's your process? Commercial arrow crester and enamel paints?
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: hawkeye n pa on January 03, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
I crested my aluminum and wood arrows for thirty some years using bohning products first with a home made crester and then I bought one.  The last five years I've went to carbons with wraps and have not had much success cresting that holds up well.  Some here  do and I'm sure they will speak up.  I do miss the process and the looks.

I did dip some carbons but when it was time to refletch I didn't like how the acetone removed the the factory finish.  Never  tried any of the more user friendly  environmental products.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: mikolay87 on January 03, 2017, 06:32:00 AM
All of my arrows are crested. I usually shoot gold tip wood grain blems. I usually start with white spray paint. I use createx air brush paint to crest over the white. I use the white as a base coat as I go over it with fluorescent paint and it is not bright if you just use it over the arrow. After its crested I dip the crested portion in the varathane floor finish I use on wood arrows. Then let it dry and fletch.

They hold up pretty good after being dipped. I like the look of pretty wood arrows. I shoot both wood and carbon. Most people dont know that my arrows are carbon unless they are scoring my rounds and pull them out of the wall.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: crazynate on January 03, 2017, 06:48:00 AM
I dip crest and fletch all my own arrows. It is easier than you think.i use a spin right crester and bohning lacquers for the base dip. Then I use model paint for cresting. I also membrane splice my feathers and burn them. It's nice to have people comment on how well they look. Plus I just love building them. I don't worry about breaking or loosing arrows. Once you start building your own you start to hunt down arrows and shafts and you'll be surprised how cheap you will find some.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: fireball31 on January 03, 2017, 07:00:00 AM
All of them. Black eagle appears to have done a fine job. The only modification that I made was a little extra glue at the front of the feathers.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: crazynate on January 03, 2017, 07:05:00 AM
I dip crest and fletch all my own arrows. It is easier than you think.i use a spin right crester and bohning lacquers for the base dip. Then I use model paint for cresting. I also membrane splice my feathers and burn them. It's nice to have people comment on how well they look. Plus I just love building them. I don't worry about breaking or loosing arrows. Once you start building your own you start to hunt down arrows and shafts and you'll be surprised how cheap you will find some.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: dbd870 on January 03, 2017, 08:13:00 AM
None; like the way they look but not worth the minimal effort to me at this time.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: highlow on January 03, 2017, 08:27:00 AM
None.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: ChuckC on January 03, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Along this line, has anybody gotten experience using any sort of paints on carbon shafts ?  I would spend some time this winter making some nice looking arrows ( dipped, crested ) but am unsure of the paints which might hold up.  Guidance here would be appreciated..

I have simply spray painted wood shafts before, with really good results, and used colored markers for the cresting.  That was fun.  What about on carbon though.
Chuck
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: wooddamon1 on January 03, 2017, 11:02:00 AM
I doctored up a half dozen for a buddy using Testor's paints over a rattle-can cap (flat white base under red gloss). Wiped Min-wax water based poly over it for protection. Turned out nice. Fletch tape for feathers. No pics since they include his c-bow.

I have a few I plan to pretty up when they need re-fletching.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: reddogge on January 03, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
I crest my 3-D arrows but my last set of hunting arrows I left bare except for a 2" band of reflective tape.

I use Krylon Fusion, sand and use acetone to clean first. Mask and spray several coats, 0000 steel wool between coats.

Crest with water based model paint or cresting paints and seal with Wipe On Poly. They hold up for years, no worse that woodies.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: ProAlpine on January 03, 2017, 04:48:00 PM
It sounds like there are quite a options that work.

Let's see some photos!
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Longtoke on January 03, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
I spray cap mine sometimes. I would like to crest but I dont have a machine and havent been happy with my attempts at a jig.


Sometimes I just spray cap then put a small band taped off and paint that too.


The best spray paint IMO is oil based enamel.    Then I use fletch tape and superglue to avoid any possible reactions.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Longtoke on January 03, 2017, 08:44:00 PM
Here is a set I am working on now.

(http://i.imgur.com/CNN2Qfr.jpg)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: M60gunner on January 03, 2017, 11:31:00 PM
I usually use wraps and crest those. But I have a friend who insist I paint them for him. I use either Krylon or Rustolem spray paints. The ones for outside plastic furniture. I only wipe down the shafts with Acetone first. I also over coat the finished cresting. Had no issues so far. I use Saunders NPV glue to fletch.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: TRAP on January 03, 2017, 11:46:00 PM
 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/DUCK_TRAP/42663AC8-DCDF-478E-B9A5-3C98810C52A2.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/DUCK_TRAP/media/42663AC8-DCDF-478E-B9A5-3C98810C52A2.jpg.html)
Arrow Dynamics Trad

 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/DUCK_TRAP/899B4093-DE99-42BF-B717-DB4815C979EA.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/DUCK_TRAP/media/899B4093-DE99-42BF-B717-DB4815C979EA.jpg.html)
Easton FMJ

 (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/DUCK_TRAP/3D6EEA1B-C84B-476E-ACBD-1F9A2E329241.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/DUCK_TRAP/media/3D6EEA1B-C84B-476E-ACBD-1F9A2E329241.jpg.html)
New FMJ 6mm Autumn Orange shafts

I remove factory cresting and cap and crest them (woods, carbons or aluminum)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Longtoke on January 03, 2017, 11:52:00 PM
Very nice, what paints do you use Trap?
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: TRAP on January 04, 2017, 12:38:00 AM
Krylon spray paint for crown, Testors model paint for crest and then dipped in water based poly (3 coats) that's been thinned down.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: reddogge on January 04, 2017, 09:13:00 AM
Crested carbons.
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/IMG_2283_zps8b3856f4.jpg)  

Hunting arrow (not crested)
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/IMG_2203_zps7e6501e2.jpg)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: TRAP on January 04, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
Life's too short to hunt with ugly bows and arrows. Bend them, break them, shoot them through stuff and then go make some more.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: YosemiteSam on January 04, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
None.  I can appreciate the effort and results of many of you.  Some are real works of art.  But making a pretty arrow for me is about as useful as a pretty looking bullet.  Neither my carbons nor my woodies are crested or decorated in any way.  To me, archery is about simplicity and minimalism. A little flare here and there is fun -- I'm not trying to bash anybody else's choices.  But equipment that gets too fancy turns me off.  Natural wood, small blemishes, tooling marks on selfbows and well-made shots with "ugly" gear definitely scratches where I itch.

At any rate, I'm still working on making nice looking shots.  Maybe once I get a little better at that I'll consider decorating my arrows.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: stagetek on January 04, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
All of my arrows are crested. Life is too short to shoot ugly arrows.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Longtoke on January 04, 2017, 02:36:00 PM
Aside from making your arrows look nice, I think a bright cap helps a lot in arrow recovery. A little $ in spray paint ends of saving me a little $ on arrows I think.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: reddogge on January 05, 2017, 09:36:00 AM
A little story about cresting. I've been to a few 3-D shoots where I lost an arrow or two or dropped one on the trail including the huge Baltimore Bowmen Traditional Classic and people have found an arrow of mine and sought me out to return it because they recognized my crest. It also makes it easier when shooting in large groups for the arrow pullers to ID your arrows. The bright caps make it easier to find on the ground.

So mine aren't fancy but distinctive and functional.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: David Mitchell on January 05, 2017, 04:20:00 PM
I like the way carbon arrows shoot but generally just don't have much of a feel for them so no crests on mine.  I do make nice wood arrows though.   :)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: BAK on January 05, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
All.  I always crest all my arrows.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: dnovo on January 05, 2017, 06:36:00 PM
None.
That's because I don't shoot carbons.
But my woodies are all crested.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Sirius Black on January 05, 2017, 06:59:00 PM
Wraps from Onestringer.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: ghall80 on January 05, 2017, 07:15:00 PM
I load my bow every year with something nice I cant help it

 (http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w372/ghall80/image1%202.jpg) (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/ghall80/media/image1%202.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: cacciatore on January 06, 2017, 07:27:00 AM
I crest my woodies but I use wraps on my carbons, all of them.
I think to be a sign of respect to the games to shoot them your best arrows
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on January 06, 2017, 07:34:00 AM
All of them.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: ProAlpine on January 09, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Beautiful arrows everyone!

Thanks for the inspiration.
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: DWT on January 10, 2017, 04:13:00 AM
all of them-  onstringer arrow wraps and double dogg over wraps, inexspensive and easy. Plus you look cool   :)
Title: Re: How many carbon arrows in you quiver are crested?
Post by: J. Cook on January 10, 2017, 09:53:00 AM
I use plain Onestringer wraps (I buy basic colors like white, yellow, and orange in bulk for cheap) and then crest over them.  I too have started using a cut section of their "double dogg" to cover just the crested part whether it's paint or sharpie and that has really added durability.