I've been hunting hard down in Jackson and macon counties of nc. This year I saw 4 deer in 3 months. The reality is there is maybe 5 deer per square mile here and tons of woods to hide in. I don't need to kill one all the time but it sure would be nice to see more.
I'm looking for a decent sized gameland, ideally within 3 hours, that has decent deer numbers. I'm willing to go out of state to North Georgia or south Carolina. I have looked at going around Spartanburg down to the delta wma in union sc. Anyone have any experience that could point me towards some areas? I'm a little wary of hunting in that south carolina heat.
Have you considered Kentucky?
Kentucky would be a little far, definitely too far to the good hunting. I'm in the southwest part of nc about an hour from sc and ga.
I haven't seen much going on on this side of the mountain either. Lots of acorns so I guess the deer don't have to travel looking for food.
If you decide on SC, I have contacts in the upstate, Greenwood area.
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Suggest you join Carolina Traditional Bowhunters as they have quite a few members in west NC. You may get some good suggestions from them. I used to have a lease in Alleghany County near the town of Sparta. A lot of deer in that area. Unfortunately almost all is private land and you will likely have to lease property to hunt there.
have not saw as many deer this year as last.....acorns were thick....hunters were thicker.....
I'm also looking at green river gamelands in Polk county and south mountain gamelands. Anyone have any experience in those areas? South Carolina non res tags would cost me $300 and that's not worth it to me for a few trips a year
You might just keep at it. One of my best spots in Oklahoma I didn't really see much the first year...especially in the early season. It takes time to learn an area and late season is the time to figure it out. It's really hard to figure out much of anything in the early season.
3 years in a row hunting the same area and I've had shots at mature bucks and taken does several times. Unfortunately being tagged out on bucks stinks
3top and Rich mountain both have alot more deer than what youre seeing right now, and some great deer as well if you put in the work. Its getting harder and harder to find private land up here in the mountains. If I were in your shoes I would head to Watauga and Ashe, maybe wilkes, i hear good things about the gamelands around kerr scott.
South Mountain has some good deer but is hunted hard.....lots of bear too....how do I say this also.....lots of "night" hunters too......
I am in the same area as you and our property is surrounded on three side by Pisgah National Forest pretty close to the Jackson/Transylvania county lines. Tons of acorns and not seeing hardly any this year. I am headed to GA some next year. My brother in law manages some land for the state just north of Atlanta and have some property available to hunt around Clayton GA as well. I can send you some info on WMA's in those areas as well, I used to do pretty good around the Gainesville area on WMA's when I lived there.
I feel for you - my son attends WCU and confirms the crappy deer population in that area. I tried Green River public area and didn't like it, hunted South Mtn public area and it was better but the local poaching was bad. When I lived in SC, I had some success on Sumpter NF land near Newberry and Clemson, more so for turkeys than deer. Not worth the price IMO. Your best bet is to hunt GA - you'll see a lot more deer and also have good chances at hogs, bear and turkey. Join the TBG and go on some of their public land member hunts, especially the ones in northern GA like at Cuhutta. GA's public land is far superior to anything I have seen in NC.
Nantahala Nut - I feel your pain.
Graham county, NC.
- Antlered bucks per square mile 0.20 :(
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Portals/0/Hunting/Documents/Deer-Density-2015.pdf
Start heading east !
Yeah I've looked at that map dozens of times. Sincere thanks to everyone that has participated in this thread and messaged me. I've gotten a lot of great info and it looks like I will be making a few trips down to south Carolina. Thinking union county for deer and I've heard there's some good hog numbers around a lake between Greenville and Anderson.
That's funny, we have some of the highest human populated area in the country,along with some of the highest population of deer in the country, go figure ?
Not trying to rub it in, just saying. I looked up your area on the map, lots of nice woods ! We have hardly any real woods, construction everywhere and deer everywhere also, should be the other way around.
My recommendation is take up squirrel hunting after Jan 2nd. While walking, a lot, for squirrel, look for deer trails. They won't be as obvious as in smaller tracts and private land, but the evidence will be there if deer are there.
Come to Asheboro and we'll walk Birkhead after Jan 2nd. This season I have seen six deer on GL while the season was in. Four were in one group. The lead doe caught me raising my bow to draw. I heard one blow as I walked out one night. No shots. With open game lands, seeing one is great. Getting a shot is more rare. Actually bringing one in for processing is a huge success.
Same story in northern Buncombe County. I saw one doe this year. Lots of red oak mast but no white oak, and the drought this summer and fall must have altered deer movement patterns, as most springs and creeks were dry by the time the season opened.
If I were coming from out of state, or wanted to bowhunt later in the season I would look at the Keeowee And Fants Grove WMAs near Clemson. They have longer bow only seasons and there are camp grounds around the area on Lake Hartwell. I don't think there is a real population of hogs there though.
Not many hogs here in western NC but a few years ago a 600# was killed in the Jocassee Gorges area. He probably got that big because her didn't have much competition.
Some good advice given here...This has been a very unusual year in my area of NC in that deer sightings in a lot of areas was way down...I have killed 3 bucks this year so I can't complain but I hunt a lot and have access to a fair amount of private land....
I have consistently heard from hunters across the state of how tough the hunting was this year....Not sure why but prolly a combination of things such as an exceptionally heavy acorn crop, and maybe the impacts of EHD in some areas....
I have to agree with some of the comments here in that my experience with public land in other states is they are much better than here in NC....
I'm definitely gonna give fants grove a look. Bow only and it's just over 2 hours away from me. This has been really encouraging after a rough couple seasons. I take a lot of time off work and away from my family to hunt and it would be great to see a little return on investment there. My wife would sure appreciate the meat.
I'm also looking forward to when my baby boy is old enough to hunt. If I grew up only seeing 4 deer a season I probably wouldn't have stuck with it. I will still get out up here just because there are some monster bucks and other wild stuff. Saw a huge bear this season but he was just out of range at 30 yards.
NN, feel your pain. Saw 0 deer this year hunting Gamelands in Green River area. Saw several dead does only(road kill) Combination of extreme dryness, bumper acorn crop ???? Don't know what to say to explain it. Everyone else I've spoken with says the same this year. Save up for an out of state hunt ??
It's been a little tough in the upstate of SC also. Lots of acorns and dry. I really think the dryness has hurt more than anything, as the woods are so noisy. I have spent most of my hunting time hunting right at the edge of a field to keep from walking on the noisy leaves. On of the few evenings it was wet I went in to the hardwoods and saw a couple of does eating acorns. Most of the season I felt every deer in the county knew exactly where I was, the woods were so noisy.
Its really odd how the yearly mast crop varies so much between areas. I saw acorns everywhere in lower elevations but around home (Mitchell and Yancey) in the areas I hunt, acorns were basically non-existent this year. I managed to find a couple trees that actually had a few acorns and had a stellar season as far as seeing deer. Took one younger buck at 7 yards and passed on many more. The drought conditions here was also bad. A squirrel bounding through the leaves sounded like a herd of elephants coming. Hopefully we get rain to make up for the drought over the winter.
Several weeks ago my buddy who lives near fuquay varina NC invited me to hunt his lease.. apparently Hunting over corn piles is the norm..3 days before I arrive he put out 800 lbs of corn....in four days I saw not one deer..I just couldn't believe it...so I too feel your pain ....very tough area I guess..
Pat - the corn baiters had a really bad time this year cause the deer had so many acorns. They've been spoiled over the years cause normally they just dump out some corn and the deer come to it. I don't want this thread to go downhill so I'll just leave it at that....