this is driven off another topic my first custom bow i ever ordered was my wida psa and its the smoothest drawing bow ive ever had .. i actually get rid of bows if they dont feel just as good as my psa on the draw ive always been curious about a silvertip do they stack up to widows in the draw department any and all input welcome and appreciated
Well you already have a Widow... I would buy a used Silvertip and see what you think. You'll never have a problem getting rid of it if you don;t like it!
BTW I absolutely love my 3 piece Silvertip Longbow!
They surpass any widow in the draw department, a tad slower maybe?
If you are looking at a Schafer I'd give a TallTines a hard look too, they are very comparable and a bit faster
good to know :thumbsup:
Schafers are exceptional and Widows and Tall Tines as well...why not consider skipping em all and trying the new Blacktail Sitka? Lol. They are most excellent.
If you want performance, smooth draw and good looks all at a more reasonable price I would buy a Stalker by South Cox. I have had several Widows and a Silvertip and a Stalker Coyote.......I still have the Stalker.
I can't give an opinion on the Silvertip, although they have a great rep and following. I've shot a lot of bows over the past several years, and in my opinion, my 2 Widows equal or surpass them all in the draw and smoothness department. I couldn't be more pleased with Black Widow Bows.
For not being wrong I have them all and I am an happy camper :laughing:
I have owned the above listed bows and for me the Silvertip rules. I don't know where in KY your located but I have a Tip and TT you are welcome to shoot. We also have a public archery range in Frankfort.
+2 on the Stalker...they are simply works of art that shoot with authority!
thanks richard i might just have to take you up on that im about 10 min from frankfort
Sounds good
X3 on the Stalker. I know it doesn't answer your question but that is my pick!
Familiar with all three.
My personal experience has been good with each of the three.
Your personal experience may likely differ.
If I perceived a personally noticeable grip accommodation difference, then the choice would be evident.
great feedback
thanks for the great tips guys, hope everyone had a safe and happy thanksgiving
QuoteOriginally posted by Warden609:
I have owned the above listed bows and for me the Silvertip rules. I don't know where in KY your located but I have a Tip and TT you are welcome to shoot. We also have a public archery range in Frankfort.
I'd be all over this generous offer if I were trying to make this kind of expensive decision.
I have had PSA,PMA, and currently have two PCH widows. They are smooth and darn near indestructible.
I have had 60,62,and 64" schafer three piece take down recurves and three piece longbows.
I currently have a 62",64" recurve and a 64" longbow.
I am telling you this because I obviously like them both, but...........
If I had to choose between the two, my vote is for the Schafer. It draws really smooth, with an excellent grip. Hard to beat the fit and finish too. Customer service is also great.
Mark,
I've got two Silvertips and love them both to death! I've shot Widows and for whatever reason, they didn't blow my skirt up. To my eye, the Silvertip is more aesthetically pleasing. The Widow doesn't flow like the Tip, and with all the laminations in the riser, it can get a bit busy.
The Silvertip has the reputation for being a heavy bow. So, on my latest Tip, I had Dave build a 60" bow on the 15" riser. That longer working limb makes for a smooth drawing bow, and there is still enough mass in the riser to make it stable in the hand.
I don't think I'd worry too much if one shoots 5fps faster than the other...
Justin
I have a buncha Tips and several PSAs. Cant go wrong with either one.
A few yrs ago I thought I had a smooth drawing bow. I was hunting with razorsharptokill here on tradgang and he had an old 56# Black Widow MA. I drew it back and was taken aback at how smooth it was...felt like 6 or 7 lb's lighter. I've drawn Michael Arnette's Tall Tines also and it is very smooth. Though not quite as smooth, if you want quiet, both of the recurves in my signature are almost longbow quiet, and quick.
looks like im going to have to atleast try a silvertip
Try both as many bows as you can as you possibly can. A bow is such a personal choice. I think the Silvertips are great bows, but I prefer a Widow. Not that one is better than the other, I just like the way the Widow "feels". I can shoot a Timberhawk (Indiana bowyer) as well as any recurve out there. The bow I enjoy the most is a Widow longbow.
Over many, many years of shooting and owning a bunch of different bows, I have had bows from little known bowyers that shot great and fit me well and I have had customs built bows by some of the top names that just didn't "fit" me.
Have fun on your "bow hunt"!
Mike
Ive had several of both and, for me, it comes down to the width of the shelf. The Schafer has a wider shelf for hanging my bow on a hook while treestand hunting. I've had my arrow hit the ground with my Widows. Stupid I know. Just me.
As far as smoothness, I truely believe that it has to do with individual bows and woods used. I've had widows feel 10# heavier and one as smooth as butter 10# lighter. Same for Schafers only maybe a little more consistent.
I own both and both or smooth as silk. But if forced to make an opinion the "tip" may just be a tad smoother and I didnt think that was possible...
I have fews of both, none of them is a speed demon but they are great dependable, accurate hunting bows. Both the bows have good mass in the riser making them very stable. You can ask for a custom grip on both but the Tips has for sure more options with the checkering being a plus.
I think you can't go wrong with either but the Schafer has better, pricey ! , options; they are my go to bows, but if I would have only a BW I would be happy anyway.
I have shoot both over the years and now only have silvertips. I found I could not shoot the widow because my hand kept sliding off to the right, I am a lefty, the Schafer with checkering is my go to bow .
Try before you buy, none of those bows are cheap.
Having made that obvious statement I'll buck the trend with my preferences. I'll take the Widow. I've owned 3 'Tips and at least twice that many Widows. The Widows feel better in hand as long as it's the standard or low wrist grip. I shoot them better. They are as bullet-proof as a bow can get.
'Tips are well crafted and draw smoothly. None of the three I've owned were partiularly fast which to me is no big deal. Two of the three had checkered grips which look pretty hanging on the wall but feel harsh in hand, especially at full draw. I much prefer a leather bow saddle or wrap.
As far as 3 pc takedowns go, IMO the best TD recurve is and and always has been the Fred Bear TD. I don't generally care for takedowns where the limbs are bolted to the back of the riser. I know most 3 pc TD recurves are built that way but to me it often looks like the limbs are an add-on or after-thought. I know, it's a very functional design, It's just a quirk of mine. I'm not wild about the Widow face mounted limb 3 pc TDs either, the Widows I've owned in recent years are one piece or "lockit-sockit" two pc TDs.
Well there's my $.02, Some of it boils down to a Chevy-Ford debate, I think you'll be happy with whatever choice you make. :campfire:
Another vote for Schafer. I have owned Widows but the only thing left on my rack are 5 Silvertips. And a Brack Quest that is sentimental and one longbow, Cari-Bow Silver Fox. The Widows just did not do it for me.
I have owned both and still have both and like everyone else I have an opinion, but the truth is you will need to shoot both to know which one suits you the best. I like to shoot them both but when I go to a tournament to try and place I will always take my Widow because it is the one I have the most confidence in.
Between the two I much prefer the Widows.
I owned an 80# takedown Silvertip recurve, 62". Had to sell it, and sure wish I didn't. I now have an 80# Black Widow PCHX, 60". Both are awesome, smooth, fast, accurate. I love both!
that is a totally YOU answer - what do you like to shoot?
I have two tips? shot widows but never owned one or shot one enough to give an opinion.
I want to get a stalker - been keeping my eye on those??????? just how mad will the wife be ??