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Title: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Luke Perring on November 23, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
This is my first season hunting with a traditional bow, I have been shooting a 62" 49# Spirit Longbow by Byan Holley. The bow has done the job, it would seem to be a pretty basic bow. I am in search for a great bow. I love the stories and legends of Paul Schafer so I am greatly interested in a Schafer longbow but I know they are known for recurves not longbows so I'm not sure about them. I lived in Montana for a decade so I am definitely drawn to a Montana made bow but it doesn't have to be. I am 6'4" and shoot a 30+" draw. I shoot 3 fingers under and have been anchoring underneath my eye, if any of that information is helpful. Thunderhorns and Toelkes are also options I have looked into. Please give me some input Longbow guys!
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: on November 23, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
If you want a bow from Montana, I don't see how you could go wrong with a Toelke! I have never owned one, but they are made in Montana, and get rave reviews all the way around.

My personal favorite longbow (and my goto hunting bow) is a Sarrels Blueridge takedown longbow.

Good luck in your search!

Bisch
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: TradBrewSC on November 23, 2016, 09:41:00 AM
Dont forget Centaur being where you are from. Jim's bows will accommodate your draw length.

My current personal favorite, and a very stable and forgiving platform is the TALLTINES Stickflinger. This would be similar to the Schaffer with great performance in the hybrid limb design.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Warden609 on November 23, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Can't go wrong with a Toelke!! I am a loyal Silvertip recurve shooter, but on the long bow side I would highly recommend a Toelke Whip. Have fun choosing a new bow.
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Post by: Warden609 on November 23, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
I have owned several centaur long bows. Outstanding sticks!! Lots of great custom bow makers in Montana.
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Post by: Michael Arnette on November 23, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
Toelke!
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Post by: RJonesRCRV on November 23, 2016, 09:49:00 AM
Check Kimsha longbows.
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Post by: tom cunningham on November 23, 2016, 10:04:00 AM
RMSG is a great source. And you can return it if it's not just right!
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: jwhitetail on November 23, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
JD Berry Archery Longbow... Taipan or Argos for duoflex or Vixen or Morning Star (or Heritage) for ASL.  JD makes several other models that are great too...
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: ron w on November 23, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
The one you have is pretty darn good.....Check out Holm-Made, Chad Holm's Osprey and Goshawks are excellent longbows. I also like the Toelke Super "D" longbow. I like Kimsha also.....
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Post by: Bullfrog 1 on November 23, 2016, 10:35:00 AM
Toelke for MANY reasons.   Bill
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Post by: joe ashton on November 23, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Pronghornlongbows are excellent bows.. made in Wyoming that is close to Montana
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Post by: Onions on November 23, 2016, 10:45:00 AM
I see your from Illinios, come to the Traditional Bowhunting Expo in Kalamazoo in late Jan. LOTS of bowyers there. St. Joe River Bows, Shrew bows, Great Northern Bows, A&H Longbows, Black Widow, Northern Mist, Zipper bows...plus many I have forgotten. This will give you a chance to "test drive" multiple bows to find what you really like.

I personally love my A&H longbow!! Can't go wrong with one of Larry's bows!

chris <><
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Post by: dbd870 on November 23, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
I'm a recurve shooter but a couple or 3 guys at the Club really like their Timberhawks. However they are an IN company.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Bladepeek on November 23, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
I second coming to the K'zoo Trad Expo and shoot everything that catches your eye.

Having said that, I love my Java Man Elk Heart. I only draw 28", but my bow is only 54" and no stack at all. It's a highly deflex/reflex bow and Gregg makes them in longer lengths that will accommodate your long draw well.

Much as I love my high performance shorter bows, I'm anxiously awaiting my 66" Mohawk Sparrowhawk "D" type longbow. It is SLIGHTLY deflex/reflex, but strings up to a "D" shape and just feels right when shooting the Michigan Longbow shoots.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: 9 Shocks on November 23, 2016, 10:59:00 AM
TOELKE!
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Post by: Daz on November 23, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Give Neil at Bear's Paw a call in Lakeside
MT. Love my three piece, and now have the urge for a one piece from him.
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Post by: Muttly on November 23, 2016, 11:29:00 AM
Scoshe shorter than you are, but 31" draw, same anchor, 3 under. Wes Wallace Royal. Takedown.
Go 68", 50-55 lbs at your draw, bet you're a happy camper..
He's over in Oregon, but I wouldn't hold that against him.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Car54 on November 23, 2016, 11:32:00 AM
I'm 6'4"..31+ draw.
I shoot..Pronghorn t/d(64"), Liberty Edge(66"). I Like the heck out of them.
Your best bet is to go to a big trad event to try some bows.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: elkken on November 23, 2016, 11:40:00 AM
So many bows and so little time ...

Centaur and Caribow are two of my favorites
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Joeabowhunter on November 23, 2016, 11:56:00 AM
Caribow, Centaur, Toelke.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Biathlonman on November 23, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Toelke and Treadway is where I've ended up and I've tried more then a few.  66" Whip would be great for you.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: shedhunta on November 23, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
I have owned thunderhorns and toelke longbows.  The thunderhorns may be prettier but I would never ever take it over my 2 piece toelke whip.  So many reasons why.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Dan bree on November 23, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
Toelke super d.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: tzolk on November 23, 2016, 12:58:00 PM
Luke,
With a 30"+ draw the Toelke Super D in its new length of 68" will suit you well. I have one tailored to a 30" draw and it is absolutely awesome! That's Dan and Jared's Hill Style that has perfect shooting manners. His 66" Whip will suit you as well if you want an R/D bow. You won't see much difference in speed between the two. Can't go wrong with a Toelke.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Tradcat on November 23, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
Toelke Whip all the way !
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Friend on November 23, 2016, 03:12:00 PM
A vast at number of splendid offerings.

You will need to test drive a few to accommodate  your own unique personal prefernces.
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Post by: trad_in_cali on November 23, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
So many excellent offerings.
When I started I wish I'd understood the importance of a grip. You HAVE to try it before you fork over your cash.
There are many excellent offerings, but if you can try to find one that fits your hand and grip best.
It's harder to adapt to one that doesn't feel right, even if it shoots wonderfully for other people.
Marco
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: AZ_Longbow on November 23, 2016, 04:22:00 PM
I have 3 McBroom bows 2 of them are reverse handle ASL. The other is a stringfollow American semi longbow with the hill style grip.. let's just say I have 2 more on order from him.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: newhouse114 on November 23, 2016, 04:23:00 PM
I have nothing but good to say about Toelke. I arranged a trade with him with a target date of 7 weeks from the date the deal was struck. 6 days later he called me and wanted an address to send my bow. I stamered and stuttered a bit and told him flat I hadn't even started on my end of the trade. He said no problem, have fun with the bow! I did hold up my end and we were both happy. Two bucks this season have fallen to the classic whip he sent me!
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Post by: 1flyfish on November 23, 2016, 05:17:00 PM
I will 2nd the JD BERRY bows. He is a master at his craft with over 30 yrs experience and an awesome guy to talk and do business with,But he is only building ASL bows.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Sam McMichael on November 23, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
I like ASL's. I have 5 bows from Howard Hill Archery and 2 Northern Mist Sheltons. I like them all. There are so many really good bowyers out there!
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: stevem on November 23, 2016, 09:39:00 PM
Real pleased with my Toelke Whip.  I wanted a near recurve style grip and this one had it as an option.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Jack Hoyt 75 on November 23, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
RER the 3 piece longbow model LX is a killer bow.  Great quality, fair price and now made in Montana.

New website is under construction so email, call or find them on facebook.

Centaur, Wes Wallace, Fox are others to look at.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: sticksnstones on November 23, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
Kzoo is coming up, I'd hold my cash and go shoot everything there. Even if you don't find "the one" you will at least know much better what you are looking for!
Thom
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Post by: Longtoke on November 24, 2016, 12:23:00 AM
bigfoot and big jim are at the top of my list, a tolke or treadway are up there too. I'm saving my pennies.
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Post by: South MS Bowhunter on November 24, 2016, 12:29:00 AM
Never own or shot a Whip but hear nothing but praise for them.  But I have owned and do now own two Centaurs and love them, great bow to say the least!
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: LBR on November 24, 2016, 01:11:00 AM
Lots of great bows out there.  Only you can decide what works best for you, and there are no magic bows.  If you go custom, check out the bowyer's reputation for warranty work as well--and don't rely on message boards for that.  For obvious reasons, some things can't be discussed on message boards.
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Post by: WDELongbow on November 24, 2016, 01:53:00 PM
No longer made, but Big River or Anderson would be my pick.
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Post by: Austin Brown on November 24, 2016, 04:30:00 PM
Lots of good choices and several different styles mentioned.  I personally like longer mild r/d longbows the best.  For me it's hard to beat a Northern Mist Superior or Wallace Mountain.
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Post by: H1tman7 on November 24, 2016, 05:23:00 PM
I also have a long draw at about 30.5 to 31" depending on wrist Position... I have a 68" 70lb Wallace royal takedown that's absolutely fantastic. Definitely a bow worth looking at.
Title: Re: In Search of a great longbow. Input wanted!
Post by: Chain2 on November 24, 2016, 05:53:00 PM
I have a long draw as well, 31", depending o. How my shoulder feels. Some guys cringe when you tell them your draw length. Some guys don't. Go with the latter.  If your line me your bow choices will change and evolve. I'm going thru that now. This site doesn't help, with all the bow porn on it. Kalamazoo is a good idea. If I can hold off till then I'm going.
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Post by: the rifleman on November 24, 2016, 06:08:00 PM
Toelke. You can find no finer bows and no better folks than the Toelkes.  Their bows are silent, fast, and beautiful.  I have two of their RD Whips.
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Post by: sheepdogreno on November 24, 2016, 11:02:00 PM
check out the stik by rich emery at stikbows....he has a fb page called stikbows. he makes a fine RD longbow at a very affordable price compared to most bowyers. and the bows are real shooters. he will be building my second in the next 3-4 weeks
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Post by: NBK on November 24, 2016, 11:28:00 PM
Like others have said, only you can answer your own question so the best advice is to attend a shoot/gathering to demo a bunch.
If you're looking for personal opinions...
Haven't shot them all but I've shot a bunch...
My favorite...
3 pc= Jim Jones Firefly
R/D= toelke whip/ Newwood Stealth. Toss up but the whip can be a 2 piece.
Mild R/D= Dwyer Original (with your draw ask for the 68").
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Post by: bluemelonchitlin on November 25, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
Mike Treadway makes a great bow plus he's a fine fellow to deal with. Also Bruce Clark in Ohio makes a fine longbow (he also makes some fine mandolins).
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Post by: legends1 on November 25, 2016, 05:12:00 PM
We make a longbow that comes in the lengths of: 62" 64" and 66".  They are all three-piece takedowns. check them out:
http://legendsbows.com/id9.html
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Post by: curlis on November 25, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
Check out the Legends bows. You will like them!
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Post by: LJOHNS on November 25, 2016, 09:22:00 PM
Thunderhorn
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Post by: 96ssportsp on November 26, 2016, 09:49:00 AM
Another great option is the Raptor Signature longbow built by Ted Fry at Raptor Archery. I have two, both built to my 32 inch draw. Buttery smooth and easy to shoot. My next build will be another 62 inch bow, no noticeable finger pinch for me.
Here's a couple of pics of both.
(http://i.imgur.com/yVyDyTq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/T5Pousv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aIhwJ7V.jpg)

Scott.
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Post by: Zebra13 on November 26, 2016, 11:27:00 AM
Luke,

My first longbow, a Toelke Classic Whip, will be here next week, if that tells you anything.  I've also spent time with the Toelke Super D.  Both bows were incredibly smooth shooting and to my eye, were flawless in construction.  And Dan is a great guy to deal with (and he's a side-by-side shotgun freak like myself).  Toelke's delivery times are unbelievable!  I ordered mine a month ago, and was told it would arrive after Christmas.  Well...Christmas comes early this year.

Justin
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Post by: awbowman on November 26, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
Montana Toelke hands down
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Post by: HMlongbow on November 27, 2016, 06:28:00 PM
RER bows are now located in Bozeman and are doing a great job building bows.  Kevin has spoken highly of them and continuing the tradition and build he once has done.
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Post by: bcwilly2003 on November 30, 2016, 08:10:00 AM
A & H and Dryad
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Post by: LB_hntr on November 30, 2016, 04:16:00 PM
I'm a big fan or northern mist longbows. All Steve makes is longbows and he is very very good at it. Have owned alot of bows. My 2 northern mist bows are by far the best shooting longbows I have owned.
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Post by: LB_hntr on November 30, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
http://tbwpodcast.com/video-75-my-new-northern-mist-baraga-longbow-is-here/
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Post by: Airdale on December 01, 2016, 10:30:00 AM
Are you looking for a ASL or a reflex/deflex bow.? Can not believe no one has mentioned one of the best, look at Northern Mist website.
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Post by: landman on December 15, 2016, 01:12:00 PM
I've always been a recurve shooter but I have also owned a number of custom long bows and after several years of looking I purchased a Northern Mist Superior from Steve Turay.   The bow is 64" and draws to 44 @ 28" with locator grip.   Figured if might be just another long bow and I could sell it if that were the case.

The bow arrived and from the moment I shot it, I knew that I had found exactly what I was looking for.   I liked it so much that I've ordered a 62" Baraga at the same approximate draw weight.

I have a number of great recurves and after shooting the Superior I haven't touched any of those bows.

Steve specializes in longbows and IMHO he's the "go to" guy.   He'll spend all the time you need, answer your questions and help you make a choice that will astound you.
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Post by: tzolk on December 15, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
Just got in another 68" Super D in the other day. Dan and Jared Toelke exemplary work as always. Cocobolo is from a board cut in 1978 and the juniper is from a fire kill in Parma Montana. Fantastic shooter! There is a link for pics.

http://s1256.photobucket.com/user/tzolkosky/library/Juniper
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Post by: DKdc on December 15, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Get a whip.
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Post by: Pointer on December 15, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
You didn't mention if you prefer a one piece or takedown Luke but if you want a one piece look into the Tomahawk from 3 Rivers. I've owned many longbows and the best one piece for me was the Tomahawk Diamond SS. They used to have a good test drive program too. Also, don't discount the Schafer so quickly...I owned a takedown that was a fine bow...not blazing fast but certainly fast enough and a real pleasure to shoot. Smooth and well made.
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Post by: ChuckC on December 16, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
I skipped to the end without reading all the posts.  It is my opinion that there are a very lot of really talented bowyers out there, any one of which can make a great bow.  

Part of a bow being great to you is how it looks and how it feels, both of which are very personal things.  Frankly I may hold a bow that I think is the best thing in the world and you may wonder what I just smoked.

Lots of folks will give you their opinion, but it is just that, their opinion.  Your opinion may differ.  Get out if you can, go to shoots, and actually touch and feel (and shoot if allowed) a lot of these bows and decide for yourself.
ChuckC
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Post by: Pete McMiller on December 16, 2016, 07:52:00 PM
Ditto what Chuck said.  Try a bunch and make up your own mind.  Lots of quality Bowers out there.