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Title: What's wrong here?
Post by: Fletchero on October 27, 2007, 05:53:00 PM
I ordered a bow in mid June and was told 4wks.
TODAY I got this thing in the mail.
And yes it's strung correctly


(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/FreddySugar/bow.jpg)
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: kctreeman on October 27, 2007, 06:20:00 PM
Unacceptable!  I think that I would be calling the bowyer and getting my money back.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: Aram on October 27, 2007, 06:26:00 PM
If that copper dot is a penny, your bow is a very tiny one.

Oh, yes, the tiller is off also but that's to be expected on such little bows.


OK, seriously...
Get your money back. If not publish the bowyers name here and on every other trad archery forum and magazine you can find.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: deadpool on October 27, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
i woulda been sooooooo pissed off!!!
i would make the guy pay me back with interest!!!
if that were possible....
hmm shows how commited some bowyers can be in thier work..
pityful
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: Fletchero on October 27, 2007, 06:49:00 PM
START @ the bottom,
I'm not gonna try to get my money back cause it might take a year,


Re: villegas bow order‏
From: Wes Martin (wesleymartin@bellsouth.net)
Sent: Wed 10/10/07 6:58 PM
To: Freddy Sugar (freddysugar@hotmail.com)
   
I've got a bow built for you. I really like this design it seems really fast. I just wanted to touch base with you and let you know I'll get a bow out to you in a few days.

Thanks, Wes

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Freddy Sugar
   To: Wes Martin
   Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:49 PM
   Subject: RE: villegas bow order

   Ok, thanks
   RV

       From: wesleymartin@bellsouth.net
       To: freddysugar@hotmail.com
       Subject: Re: villegas bow order
       Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:56:20 -0700

       I'm very sorry. I wound up getting the flu and didn't work..didn't do anything really. I'm still sick but am wokring. I will finish it friday. I honestly forgot you needed it for the opener.
       
       Wes

           ----- Original Message -----
           From: Freddy Sugar
           To: Wes Martin
           Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:27 AM
           Subject: RE: villegas bow order

           Mr. Martin, I never recieved my bow, send me an update, I ended up missing the opener on Saturday and had to find a loaner just to get some hunting in on Sunday.
           RV


               From: wesleymartin@bellsouth.net
               To: freddysugar@hotmail.com
               Subject: Re: villegas bow order
               Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:55:47 -0700

               I don't think I got an email honestly. I think I"m having email trouble again. I emailed a guy for a month before we figured out he wasn't getting mine. Anyway, I will be done. I built one but lost the reflex in the grip so have another that is highly reflexed that I'm working on now. I plan on finishing it next week.
               
               Thanks, Wes

                   ----- Original Message -----
                   From: Freddy Sugar
                   To: Wes Martin
                   Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:07 AM
                   Subject: RE: villegas bow order

                   Hey Mr. Martin I haven't heard back from you regarding my last email and your thoughts on my bow being shipped by the Texas archery opener(sept 29)
                   If you honestly don't think it will be ready please just let me know so I can start looking for a loaner, I still have 2 weeks before Sat Sept 29th.
                   Either way please send me an email.
                   Thanks Ray Villegas

                   > From: wesleymartin@bellsouth.net
                   > To: freddysugar@hotmail.com
                   > Subject: Re: villegas bow order
                   > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:28:38 -0700
                   >
                   > I got the slats thinned out last week. I am waiting on a piece of bamboo..I
                   > screwed up the last piece I had while thinning it. It should be here this
                   > week. I'm really looking foward to building this bow. I haven't built one
                   > like it in quite awhile and had a couple of brainstorms and think this one
                   > is going to be my best yet.
                   >
                   > Thanks, Wes
                   > ----- Original Message -----
                   > From: "Freddy Sugar"
                   > To:
                   > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:10 PM
                   > Subject: villegas bow order
                   >
                   >
                   > > Hey Mr. Martin,
                   > > I hope everything is well on your end, I was just inquiring how my bow
                   > > was coming along?
                   > > Shoot me an email and let me know when you think it might ship, I'm really
                   > > looking forward to shooting some arrows,
                   > > well have a good weekend and I'll be looking for your reply
                   > > thanks
                   > > Ray Villegas
                   > >
                   > >
                   > >>From: "Wes Martin"
                   > >>To: "Freddy Sugar"
                   > >>Subject: Re: Message from **** Member
                   > >>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:11:31 -0700
                   > >>
                   > >>I was just curious if you were still planning on ordering a bow. I was
                   > >>just wanting to know since I was doing my budget and wanted to double
                   > >>check with you. Gets kinda hard to budget sometimes when you're self
                   > >>employed.
                   > >>
                   > >>Thanks, Wes
                   > >>
                   > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Freddy Sugar"
                   > >>
                   > >>To:
                   > >>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:59 PM
                   > >>Subject: Re: Message from **** Member
                   > >>
                   > >>
                   > >>>what is your address do you accept checks?
                   > >>>of course I understand that you would wait for it to clear before
                   > >>>building it, but that's fine by me
                   > >>>Thanks
                   > >>>Ray Villegas
                   > >>>
                   > >>>>From: "Wes Martin"
                   > >>>>To:
                   > >>>>Subject: Re: Message from **** Member
                   > >>>>Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:44:59 -0700
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>Message from **** MemberI could make that. I would ask $215 shipped for
                   > >>>>a bow like that. It'd take me around 4 weeks to make it.
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>Thanks, Wes
                   > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
                   > >>>> From: **** Member: tekkishun32
                   > >>>> To: wesleymartin@bellsouth.net
                   > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:46 PM
                   > >>>> Subject: Message from **** Member
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> **** sent this message to Wesley Martin
                   > >>>> (staticrecurve).
                   > >>>> Your registered name is included to show this
                   > >>>> message originated from ****. Learn more.
                   > >>>> Question from **** Member -- Respond Now
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> **** sent this message on behalf of an **** member
                   > >>>> through My Messages. Responses sent using email will go to the ****
                   > >>>> member directly and will include your email address.
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> Question from tekkishun32
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> Activity with tekkishun32 (last 90
                   > >>>> days):
                   > >>>> - I have bid on 0 items from
                   > >>>> tekkishun32
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> tekkishun32( 106)
                   > >>>> Positive feedback: 100%
                   > >>>> Member since: Feb-22-01
                   > >>>> Location: TX, United States
                   > >>>> Registered on:  www.****.com (http://www.****.com)
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>>
                   > >>>> I've been keeping an eye on your bows,
                   > >>>> I like them.
                   > >>>> You think you could make a set back
                   > >>>> handle style bow? Similar to a horse bow
                   > >>>> Like a chek-mate longhorn or saxon
                   > >>>> hawk.
                   > >>>> A lefty at about 55@27
                   > >>>> Bamboo backed?
                   > >>>> Let me know what price you would ask
                   > >>>> and how long it would take?
                   > >>>> Many thanks
                   > >>>> Ray V
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: onemississipp on October 27, 2007, 07:06:00 PM
That really sucks.

Wonder what it looks like drawn. It really looks like the relex came out of the limb on the right.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: Apex Predator on October 27, 2007, 07:15:00 PM
There are enough threads about this bowyer for me to skip several "good looking" ones on E-XXX.  I feel for you brother.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 27, 2007, 08:36:00 PM
Small claims court.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: Gene Roberts on October 27, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
that must stink.
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: dorris on October 27, 2007, 10:56:00 PM
up til now I always thought wes martin bows were supposed to be good ones . Man I must have missed something if thats what he sends out for a bow . I would definately ask for my money back thats the absolute worst bow I think i have ever seen .
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: hawk22 on October 27, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
Who is the bowyer?
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: mountaindog on October 27, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
i picked up a used bow that he made back in april.. osage and stained bamboo... it's not a bad shooter.... it definately doesnt look like that.... what a bummer... i would be pretty heated.... :mad:  

mike
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: doublewhopper on October 27, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
What the heck???
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: drewsbow on October 27, 2007, 11:55:00 PM
HaH , the first thing I thought when I saw this bow was Wess Martin . I had similar expierence with him and will never and I do mean never get another of his bows , took over a year:0)Yes when it showed up the tiller was off also , just plain crap work if you ask me :0)
Title: Re: What's wrong here?
Post by: TimZeigler on October 28, 2007, 12:25:00 AM
To many good deals here and through reputable bowyers to be taking chances on the auction site.  Unfortunately your not the first or last to be taken for a ride.  Sorry about your luck. Tim