anyone have experience making a heavy broadhead adapter out of a turned down field point? I am trying to get a 400g BH and field point as well.
I need about a 200g adapter.
Changing your components will help. I have 400gr. up front. 100 grain brass insert plus 75 grain steel adapter and 235 grain Grizzly Kodiak. For field use a 300 gr. field point.
Another option. My 250 grn VPA glue ons plus a 100 grn thread adapter weigh 348 grn. I glue 190 grn field points to woodie weights and thread adapters and put the assemblies in the lathe and turn them down at the point until they're the same as the broadhead combos - 348 grn. Looks like this:
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If you have a lathe available to you , just make the whole adapter insert all in one . Start out big and work your way back until you get the weight you are looking for . Then just make the rest the same .
I do that with my aluminum arrows . I make broadhead adapters that just glue in and I also glue on file points to that so I have matched weight for broadheads as well .
I have a drill press, would that work? Or could I somehow Jig a mill file to the drill press to put a 5 degree taper on the field points?
are you trying to save money..if not buy "woody weights " they are great and come in different weights and are not overly expensive...I have used them for wood spine adjustment and just to get a heavier arrow...they work fantasic...i think you can buy them from a few stores on the net...three rivers I think and a few others..maybe even direct from the manufacturer...
they go from 75,100,125,150,175,200 grains ..are machined very well and just under a dollar each..
here is a deer i took with a cedar and woody weight on the front..to use on an all wood bamboo backed bow that had no shelf....I increased the spine by adding 200 grain woody weight to get good flight ..flew like a dart
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/bte1958/P1030251_zpsfbw6s30b.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/bte1958/media/P1030251_zpsfbw6s30b.jpg.html)
If you are making your own because you like DIY I apologize but here they are if you are interested
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/bte1958/5603-4WoodyweightsS_zpsshtfzkxo.jpg) (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/bte1958/media/5603-4WoodyweightsS_zpsshtfzkxo.jpg.html)
Woody weights would solve all my problems but its an extra glue joint and an extra expense, although no more than brass inserts.
It just seems those field points would really be the ticket If I could find a way to accurately taper them.
"I have a drill press, would that work?"
I think a disk grinder (or bench grinder) and a file would make short work of it.
I'd be adding lead into all the hollow spaces, adds weight in a hurry.
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
I'd be adding lead into all the hollow spaces, adds weight in a hurry.
Thats a good idea, I wonder how much lead a feller could put in the end of a 190g field point and 100 or 125 grain adapter.
Awesome buck btw Trubletrubl
Yep. Took my 145gr field tips to my grinder, got them to fit in the head just right, and glued them. Killed a doe with them a couple weeks ago. Worked just fine. I had ordered adapters, but they don't fit even when multiple people said they would.
Chuck the field point into a high speed drill and taper it against a bench grinder. A file will work but it's a bit slow. It might be difficult getting the correct angle on them.
I haven't used the woody weights, but had a look at them at RMSG. They look like a good solution. I don't see what the difference would be between the field point and the woody weight unless you are talking screw in field points??
I don't shoot much aluminum or carbon but there seems to be a whole lot of options for front weighting them.
I thought the woody weights were a buck each, turns out they are more like 2 bucks each.
2 dollar woody weight and then the 1 dollar adapter... I might as well buy the high dollar adapters from tuffhead at that rate and just be done with it.
Havent had a chance to go to the shop to try grinding these field points down. I have a couple ideas for a jigs and grinding methods. I'm not sure how safe all of them will be but I will let you guys know what I am able to come up with.
I tried stuffing the hollow spots in the adapters and field points with tungsten putty I had from fishing. I could get about 30 grains worth in the 100gn adapter and about 6 grains worth in the 125gn adapter... either way 130gn.. thats not enough
I couldnt get much at all in the field point and still have room for the adapters.
On to the next experiment....
good luck with the homemade tip...I envy people who have the skill to make archery equipment...
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
I'd be adding lead into all the hollow spaces, adds weight in a hurry.
I use lead shot inside some broadheads, I have a piece of foam that I put on a small scale then set the scale to zero, that holds the broad head which i then drop shot inside till I get to the right weight, then put a drop of epoxy..
now I cut back on my wood arrow taper and dry fit it into the broadhead before hot melting.
this is just a DIY way of getting some heads up to 250gr,,,, not sure how heavy you can actually make them but I do know that the short tapered wood arrow hot melted inside doesn't fail,,
I was worried at first about cutting back the tapers but it doesn't effect anything.
I like these adapters from Vintage Archery,they are the ones that make the Tuff Head. They are not cheap,but not out of this world either. My set up is about 325 or a little more. I can find broadheads or make some with steel adapters but I'm limited on what I can use. He has them in 150,175,and 200. These are 200 with a 150 grain Simmons for 350 grains. They give me a lot more options on broadhead use. I just put that second picture in there for reference. I guess you wouldn't have to do that,but there's a whole lot hanging off the front without support.
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Today I weighted some 38 special cases for blunts. Held them by the rim with pliers and heated them with a torch and melted solder into them to about half full.
Different problem, but melting in should allow more weight in.