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Title: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Will Cocke 2 on November 01, 2016, 02:15:00 PM
Black River Bows will be making bows for the Hope and Faith this year.  Completed in December.  I am going to build a left and a right hand Hybrid.  What poundage do you guys think will best suit most of you.   I was thinking 51-55 at 28"

Also if there are any sponsors or contributors that would like to contribute anything special,  veneers, woods or anything to have a hand in the bows let me know.  

Look forward to the opportunity and the hunts to come!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Yellow Dog on November 01, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
Will, what's the average weight on the bows you've previously built ordered by your customers? I've had a few bowyers tell me they can sell every 45 pounder they can build.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Yellow Dog on November 01, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
But then again I draw 30" which puts me in that 50+ neighborhood.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: LITTLEBIGMAN on November 01, 2016, 02:52:00 PM
please make them mid 40's so us older guys might get a chance using one of them
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: fnshtr on November 01, 2016, 03:00:00 PM
I think 55 is a bit much. 45-48 seems better. JMO

And a GREAT BIG THANKS!!!!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: DanielB89 on November 01, 2016, 03:02:00 PM
I would agree that a mid 40's may be better.. I know it would be better to be under bowed than over.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Will Cocke 2 on November 01, 2016, 03:04:00 PM
No doubt about that Daniel.  Most bows are ordered 46-53.  Would 45 or 47 be better?
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Dry Creek on November 01, 2016, 03:37:00 PM
I agree mid 40's would be great with my 30" draw!!
Will Thank You for stepping up to the plate on this!!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on November 01, 2016, 03:51:00 PM
Will,

I like mine in the low 50's but pull 29+ so I'm shooting 55-57# on most of mine.

But the 45-47# range would give more opportunities for everyone. Besides your bow I hear pull so smooth most wouldn't know it's a higher poundage
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: A.S. on November 01, 2016, 04:21:00 PM
45-48 sounds perfect to me. I would seriously look at bidding on the lefty when it comes to St. Jude time!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: nineworlds9 on November 01, 2016, 04:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by A.S.:
45-48 sounds perfect to me. I would seriously look at bidding on the lefty when it comes to St. Jude time!
I 2nd this^^^
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Bud B. on November 01, 2016, 07:33:00 PM
Shooting for 45lbs+ @28 would be my suggestion. Plenty for most all game they would persue.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: DWT on November 01, 2016, 07:51:00 PM
I like about 66@29 for us older guys    :bigsmyl:    Quilted maple is also really nice!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Chumster on November 01, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
I pull 30" plus so mid to high 40's would be great!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Will Cocke 2 on November 01, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
Just finished up a stained quilted maple as a matter of fact!

  (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/D97595FF-5AA4-4444-8049-550B0081B185_zpshvt5gtau.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/wcocke/media/D97595FF-5AA4-4444-8049-550B0081B185_zpshvt5gtau.jpg.html)

  (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/92C621D2-95C6-40C9-A649-9A28B9475AAA_zps1amfqgyv.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/wcocke/media/92C621D2-95C6-40C9-A649-9A28B9475AAA_zps1amfqgyv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Gen273 on November 01, 2016, 09:39:00 PM
:eek:     :eek:  WOW THAT IS A LOOKER    :eek:    :eek:
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: LittleBen on November 01, 2016, 10:04:00 PM
I tend to shoot ~45# most of the time. That's at a 25"'draw though, so were talking 50-55#@28". But I think a hair over 45#, say 47#@28" is ideal. Enough weight a short draw shooter could take game, but not so much that a long draw guy has to suffer.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Gdpolk on November 01, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
First, let me say thank you for dedicating your time, labor, expertise, and funds to such a wonderful cause and such a fun tradition here on the Gang.

Second, I would think anything between 45-55lbs would be great.  Keep the length long enough that guys with 29-30" draws aren't getting a lot of finger pinch.  Doing this would put the bow into a huntable category for the vast majority of users.  If you were building it for just me, I'd say 60" and 50-55 lbs would be ideal.

As for woods, I think it would be most fun to have woods donated or bought from other vendors or something.  The more TradGang community that can be involved from materials to building the better.  That's part of what makes the Hope and Faith bows so much fun.  Horn tips would be a cool addition.  I'd be willing to donate some whitetail antler pieces if I have some on hand of the right sizes for you to add to the build, although my stash is fairly small as of now.  Feel free to PM me if interested.

It might be a good bow to try something new that you've had on your mind and debut it as a prototype whether its a new finish or shape of accent piece, or what not and then it could add a little something cool to be able to get in on the first of whatever feature offered at the St. Judes auctions.  I'd say just build it for the average user of yours and have a LOT of fun with it.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: CoachBGriff on November 01, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
I'd like to throw a "vote" in for lower 50's...

Thanks for bringing this back... I can't wait to get my name on the list!

Your bows are beautiful!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on November 01, 2016, 11:05:00 PM
WOW   :eek:    :eek:  Will that is gorgeous!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: DWT on November 02, 2016, 04:46:00 AM
Very nice looking bow
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: dagwood64 on November 02, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
64" 45#-48#@28 is my vote.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: wooddamon1 on November 02, 2016, 11:23:00 AM
I'd hunt with anything between 40-60#. Looking forward to getting in on this for the first time, your bows are very nice.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Tom on November 02, 2016, 01:24:00 PM
Mid 40's and most everyone can shoot that-thanks for your expertise.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: pdk25 on November 02, 2016, 01:59:00 PM
I guess if everone is voting, I would personally prefer it to not be less than 50# @ 28".  Getting older, but still personally like the release I get with a little heavier weights.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: pdk25 on November 02, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
And I agree with the others.  Thank you for the generosity.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: chinook907 on November 03, 2016, 12:38:00 AM
Beautiful bow.  And thanks so much for your generosity.

Thankfully the world does not revolve around me, but I'd much prefer something over 50#'s to something under.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Lefty on November 04, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
My vote is 47-49 but anything 45-50 is good.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Terry Green on November 10, 2016, 09:07:00 PM
Being the these bows will be hunting year round which would included a lot of hog hunting ....hogs are akin to elk in tuffness...so just something to consider.

I'm sure what ever you decide will work out, look great, and will fill the list.

Many thanks for your contribution!!!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Vesty on November 11, 2016, 03:46:00 PM
Yep. 45#-49#. Probably fit the need for the majority of hunters young and old.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: elkken on November 11, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by fnshtr:
I think 55 is a bit much. 45-48 seems better. JMO

And a GREAT BIG THANKS!!!!
X2
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: on November 11, 2016, 07:24:00 PM
I agree with staying near, or just below 50#@28". I'd certainly be in for a ride with "Hope" if they come in close to that.

Bisch
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Will Cocke 2 on November 13, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
We will have some quilted maple that was donated they will carry a very special meaning to many here.  By Biathlonman   I am going to shoot for 47@28  I have found odd poundages yield better luck ha!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Guru on November 14, 2016, 05:19:00 AM
Thanx Will!!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: DJJBullet on November 14, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
Love it when Terry takes possession of these bows before they go off to war.  We get to shoot them and set them up.  Its always fun to see what comes in every year.  Thanks for offering to do this Will.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Biathlonman on November 14, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
I just sent a couple of big pieces of some nice maple to Will.  It wasn't long ago my good friend Isreal Roman, Izzy, and I were talking about how neat it would be to get this wood made into some veneers and each of us were going to have a bow made from it.  Two cops who met on an unlikely website like Tradgang and were fast friends due to our love of bowhunting and our shared profession.  We talked often about the bows we would have made and the hunts we would share with those bows.

After we lost Izzy, I've been struggling trying to decide what I should do with it.  To be brutally honest it's been a bit of an albatross having it around my garage. Many times I had to fight back the urge just to throw it in my fire pit. When I saw the opportunity to send it to Will to help the children of St. Jude I knew that was exactly where this wood needed to go.

My hope is two fold.  That first off these bows can help the children of St. Jude.  Second, I hope they help those of us who have lost friends and loved ones remember them for the incredible people that they were.

I hope thats not to selfish of me.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: monterey on November 14, 2016, 06:03:00 PM
That would be a full 180 degrees from selfish!  Gonna make some pretty bows.
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Terry Green on November 14, 2016, 06:13:00 PM
Great gesture sir!
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: Burnsie on January 05, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
48#
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: bow loving man on January 05, 2017, 01:29:00 PM
True kindness on your part Biathlonman. A great way to remember those we've lost...and help children...Thank you
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on January 05, 2017, 01:31:00 PM
My
Title: Re: Lets talk Hope and Faith
Post by: bogeyrider63 on January 05, 2017, 01:35:00 PM
Can't wait to see these bow's.