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Title: It never fails!
Post by: Burnsie on October 31, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
I've been hunting nearby Public land almost exclusively for the past 7-8 years due to my previous spots being sold or the owners allowing relatives first dibs as they became of hunting age.  So, the state public land I hunt has a rule that you must take a doe before you are eligible to take a buck.  I'm losing track of the times I've passed on nice bucks because I hadn't taken a doe yet. You wouldn't think it would be that tuff to take care of the doe requirement,  but it never fails, I'll have bucks on top of me and no does.  I finally get a doe and the bucks disappear.  
The picture below isn't very clear, but I had this dandy 10pt,  point blank at 6yds Sunday evening.  Milled around my tree for a good 10-15 minutes and didn't have a clue I was there - argh!!!  The only positive thing is, I've gotten real use to being around nice deer and watching them. I guess the adrenaline might start flowing if I knew I could actually shoot them.
We don't have to physically check in deer anymore in Illinois , it is all done online.  I know there are a lot of guys who sacrifice their doe tag and register online the first day or two of season as though they have shot a doe even though they haven't.  Then they go after bucks.
I've thought about it,  but I guess I'm just the kind that plays by the rules.  
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Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: ron w on October 31, 2016, 05:50:00 PM
Playing by the rules ain't a bad thing.....   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: J. Holden on October 31, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
At least you're seeing deer.  My public land I have access to close to home is either open to the public during my season or its open to pheasant hunting the other days.  Yeah, deer are scarce around these parts.

I feel your pain.

Jeremy
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Rough Run on October 31, 2016, 06:17:00 PM
You will sleep with a peace of mind that those others will never know.  Observing the conservation laws, even when personally challenging, is always the right thing.  Hang tough - you are doing it right.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Yewbender on October 31, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Burnsie, your a better man for playing by the rules. Those others that don't are only after bragging rights or just need to kill. I'm sure it's tough but rules are the rules. The good thing is your seeing deer. Good luck and happy hunting!
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: ChuckC on October 31, 2016, 06:34:00 PM
I've had that happen here in WI numerous times during those years we had similar rules.  One in particular was maybe the second largest buck I have ever seen while hunting in WI.  Oh well, you got to see him up close.  Good job
ChuckC
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Burnsie on October 31, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
Thanks guys, I've been thinking about that one all day long.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: BlacktailBowhunter on October 31, 2016, 08:31:00 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: kennym on October 31, 2016, 09:53:00 PM
Good for you Troy! Would be nice if everybody followed the rules and it would be a level playing field.

If they cheat, they have to live with it and the lie every time they look at the great buck they cheated to get.

Sort of like paying to shoot a fenced deer and having to make up a story to go with it......
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: buckracks7 on November 01, 2016, 01:58:00 AM
Yeah, I know the feeling.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Irish Archer on November 01, 2016, 10:44:00 AM
Thank you for doing the right thing. It's not easy. Hang in there. Your turn will come.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: YosemiteSam on November 01, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
Wow!  If only we had such rules...  I'm jealous.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Cwilder on November 01, 2016, 03:57:00 PM
I know the feeling. The public lands I hunt at one time had the same rule. We finally got them to change it but it took some doing
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: GRAYBEARD on November 01, 2016, 03:59:00 PM
Mr. Twain wrote" Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Your high standards are thankfully common here on Trad Gang.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: fnshtr on November 01, 2016, 06:17:00 PM
Good for you for playing by the rules. I had a similar problem last year. My son and I had a dandy on our trail cams but had never layed eyes on him. I took a 2 1/2 year old 8 point, then had to take a doe before I could take a second buck.

Could not FIND a doe! But wouldn't you know it, the big buck appears out of the fog one morning 15 yards from my stand!

I "played by the rules". We also check in electronically. Does that are checked in but not actually taken are referred to as "phantom does".

I'll continue to "play by the rules".
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: AZ_Longbow on November 01, 2016, 06:33:00 PM
haven't had a doe hunt in AZ, for over 15 years I think. would love to get a chance. one deer a year total... I live in the wrong state.
I envy your problem.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: RodL on November 01, 2016, 08:52:00 PM
I agree with what Kenny wrote, I would think it would be hard to be truly excited about killing a nice buck and telling all your friends about the setup, shot, etc when you know that it was killed without following the rules.  Thank you for respecting the hunting laws of your state

Rodney
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Whip on November 01, 2016, 10:59:00 PM
Nice job Burnsie. As I would expect.
You'll think of that one often , but it will be with a feeling of pride for doing it right rather than guilt for breaking the rules.  No matter how great the buck, taking one illegally would  (or should)  leave a bitter taste every time you think of it.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: highlow on November 03, 2016, 07:49:00 PM
Good for you Burnsie. The ability to sleep at night with a clear conscience can't be bought at any price.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: sheepdogreno on November 03, 2016, 09:17:00 PM
The rules are put in place for a reason good thing your a man of integrity. It will pay in your favor I'm sure! Good luck!
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: Brett Hammons on November 03, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
I've always considered just seeing a beautiful buck a successful hunt.  Good luck out there.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: kevsuperg on November 05, 2016, 03:34:00 PM
I know it's frustrating. But integrity is doing the right thing even when no one's looking.
Since my move last yr to idaho all I've seen are moose and me with no tag.
I'm sure I could take one if I wanted but....
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: WhitetailHtr on November 07, 2016, 08:42:00 AM
I think that the true test of a person's integrity is how they conduct themselves when no one is looking, and no one would ever find out.  

You are obviously a man of great integrity.  I applaud you for that.  THAT integrity is worth more than any buck taken by bending the stated rules.

I'm proud of you.
Title: Re: It never fails!
Post by: BAK on November 07, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
Having worked with the criminal element my whole life you guys have one thing completely wrong.

They don't look in the mirror and "have to live with it".  They could care less.  They view us who follow the rules as the dumb suckers who aren't getting to shoot a buck.