Season starts Saturday and I have a problem. For months now I've been drilling my 3D target out to 25yds with a few "off days" here and there. Yesterday and today I can't shoot for crap. My bow and arrows are in tune so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. This is my first year with traditional equipment and my confidence just dropped. I was going to take the next two days off from practice and just go Saturday. What do you think? The other option is my compound. Thanks in advance.
I'd try shooting one arrow at a time. Maybe try stump shooting. Roam around. When you spot something that catches you're eye in a soft looking spot, shoot at it.
Hunt closer if you need to. I've got a stand that consistently produces 5-10 yard shots. Its hard to get a shot off that close but doable.
After a rough day I like to start the next one at a slam dunk distance. like 10 or 12 yards. I shoot one arrow at a time from several different angles at the short distance. Then I back up. If I am off at a longer distance at least i know anything within 30 feet of me is going on the table. I also end with some close shots, sitting, kneeling, shooting around a tree. standard form etc. just to end on a good note.
Get up early saturday and kill a big deer. That will boost your confidence like no other!
Msturm
I do exactly as Mike except when he goes to 10 yards, I go to 5.
I get real close, and really focus on form and release or follow through. sometimes I will close my eyes to better focus on those things. (check out blind (or blank) bale shooting) It really helps a lot.
Then I will back up. Usually that fixes my issues.
Go hunting, keep shots close and enjoy.
imho 25 yards is getting out there for most of us as stated above i try to set up where my max shot is around 15 yards but to you qustion when i start shooting bad " and usually after ive been shooting alot of concecutive days " i put my target about 10 to 15 yards out my front door and ill shoot a arrow a hour usually helps me out alot
I went through the same thing a week before ny started. it's all mental. take your short distance shots and one arrow at a time. maybe even blind bail to. good luck it will come back
Agree about shooting one arrow, close, did you control the shot? Pull arrow, back up if you shot it well. Shoot from different angles, elevations, off balance, twisting, turning, heavy cloths, face mask, canting, reverse canting....learn what you can and can't do. Be critical of that first "cold" arrow. Best of luck.
You may be over thinking. With the season close, you may be feeling a bit apprehensive, causing you to "bear down" on the shot. Don't do that. Shoot loosely and comfortably as you have been doing in preparation. Bear down only on "the spot" as you smoothly make your release. In short, don't change up the shot sequence.
There's lots of good advise here.
I wouldn't even attempt shooting arrows at 25 yards as a newer shooter.
Almost every deer I've ever shot has been in the 15 to 20 yard range. That includes shooting with a shotgun. The reason is simple. Hunting is not the same thing as shooting. Hunting is the art of getting close to your quarry so that you can take it.
If you go back to the training bow, you'll go back with the wrong attitude: "I can take long shots to compensate for deficiencies in hunting skills." I've done that too. Never worked well for me.
Good luck, you'll be fine. Stick to hunting. Focus on hunting. It'll work for you.
I've been doing this a long time and every year I go through the same thing right before the season. The anticipation of the up coming hunt and the pressure to shoot perfectly creates the perfect storm. I can't shoot for crap.
As schmidty3 says, take a Judo for a walk. Go roving. I gaurantee you will be drilling everything you shoot at.
You are fine and do not have to resort to the compound.
Good luck!
You might be getting performance anxiety since season is close. Its easy to become results oriented and lose focus on the shot process.
I shoot no more than 3 arrows in a group and will occasionally verbalize the shot process as I do it. Helps me to remember that I am building the shot
Shooting instinctive ( and even using sights, but moreso with "I") is literally all in your head. Little things change your style, your sight picture, your grasp on reality (OK... your grip on your bow). All of those things can and likely will affect your shooting.
Shoot closer and hit the ten ring for a while. get it back ( in your head), but remember, most shots at critters are taken at much shorter distances than 25 yards.
ChuckC
Lot's of good advice...
I don't shoot much before a big hunt. I try to pack my bow up right after I shot well and hold that confidence through the hunt (works mostly for travel hunts).
And try different targets...big targets like 3D targets are fun, but sometimes can distract. Try shooting a plastic bottle and aim for the cap only...I bet it will surprise you in good ways..
Ohh and relax.
Stop shooting the targets and go stump shooting.
Shooting targets can induce a form of anxiety for many people myself included because you start to put too much pressure on yourseelf.
Stump shooting is completely different than target shooting and simulates a real hunting scenario much better than shooting targets.
My suggestion, go stumping with ZERO expectations of hitting anything. This way you are not pressuring yourself.
i'll add that even though ive never killed a squirrel with a bow, most the time im only missing an inch or two or the squirrel jumps it, either way, just barely missing a 2"x4" target still means you would hit the 10"x 12" target (or whatever a deer is). ITs odd that I find confidence in missing a squirrel but I do!!! haha
Its not gonna be easy ,im not one to talk ive had the Trad bug and never connected ,but once we both do ,itwill be so much more satisfactory than any wheel bow .
Don't think about it , just shoot without thinking .
As seguested , stumpin' , see a shot , stare at it without thinking and just put the arrow where it needs to go .
Remember this.....no deer is going to hang around for you to put a nice tight group into them. Groups are nice for target shooting, but it dont mean doo-doo when it comes to killing a deer. You got 1 arrow, so Shoot them close, 15 yards or less. Thats really what this is about. Over the years, my average shot has been 12 yards. Can you put em in the vitals at 12 yards?
I have now plans for shooting a deer at
25, that was just an example of how well I was shooting. All my setups are max 20 with 30 yard lanes from my compound days. I've never had to make a shot over 20.
Invest in a copy of "Masters of the Barebow, Volume III". Best advice I can offer, other than attending a Rod Jenkins clinic next year.
I wanted to mention earlier DO NOT shoot when you are frustrated. Put it down and walk away. come back when you are relaxed.
There are good days and bad days. Mathematically, assuming your skill level has a normal distribution (bell-curve) of hits within the kill zone, there will sometimes be several days when you can't miss (say, the 3rd standard deviation) and days when you can't hit the darn thing to save your life. Both are equally likely outcomes in a random sample. Skill levels put these events as more and more rare, shrinking your "cone of error." Want to feel better, put it down for a few days to end your frustration but then pick it up again to resample your data.
A few months ago, I bought a fun little Ben Pearson recurve that I wanted to hunt with. I shot it for a couple months but never could be quite as good as I was with my Sammick. So I picked up the Sammick again and started drilling arrows, one right after the next, 4/5 arrows touching each other at 20 yards. Standing, kneeling, sitting, canted, vertical, mixed yardage -- I couldn't miss. What changed? Who knows? Just another day and another data sample.
Now as for taking 25 yard hunting shots...
Very good advice above! :thumbsup: :campfire:
Same thing happened to me a while back. I could not figure it out but stumbled on the cure. I bought a new tab as I lost my tab I usually use. I was back to shooting good. Found my old tab and couldn't believe how worn it was. At least thats what did it for me.
Confidence is everything. No worse feeling than wounding one. I went back to a compound, because I made a couple bad shots. 2017 is the year I plan to hunt trad for deer. I will shorten my shots to 12 yards and use attractants to bring them in close.
I'm great on the range. Picking a spot on live game has been the hardest party. I've since grown as a hunter and don't get as shooken up as in years past and with a shorter range and more experience, I'm giving it another go.