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Title: Nock height study (your participation needed).
Post by: DanielB89 on October 19, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
As a string maker, I am curious to know how high above center of your string your top nocking point typically is.  What I mean by this, is if you measure the string tip to tip and say it is 60", find the center of the string(30"), then measure how high your top nocking point is above that.  

You can post your answer simple like,  2" expressing that the top nocking point is 2" above center.  Again, this is NOT how high your nocking point is above square with a bow square, this is in relation to how high it is in comparrison to the center of your string.  


Thank you in advance for everyone who will do this.

Daniel
Title: Re: Nock height study (your participation needed).
Post by: Straitshot on October 19, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Daniel,

62" Blacktail one piece it is right at 1 3/4"

62" Wes Wallace one piece is 2 3/8"

64" Blacktail T/D is 2"
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Post by: Kip on October 19, 2016, 12:35:00 PM
Bear takedown 1 3/4 to 1 7/8
Bob lee takedown same
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Post by: pinky on October 19, 2016, 01:46:00 PM
Selway "lil shooter" LB   2  1/8"

Aspen "classic" LB   1  3/4"

Martin "Hatfield" RC  1 5/8"

all from center to bottom of nocking point with nocking points set for Off the Shelf
Title: Re: Nock height study (your participation needed).
Post by: DanielB89 on October 19, 2016, 03:27:00 PM
Keep'm coming fellas
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Post by: John146 on October 19, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
1 3/4" Bob Lee takedown
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Post by: Floxter on October 19, 2016, 06:19:00 PM
21st. Century Edge 1 3/8"
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Post by: nek4me on October 19, 2016, 07:09:00 PM
Chekmate Attila 2 3/8

Bear Black Bear 1 3/4
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Post by: drewsbow on October 19, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
1 3/4
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Post by: DanielB89 on October 19, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
Anymore?
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Post by: Pine on October 19, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
Every one of my Bear bows is around 1 3/4" .
My Dwyer is about 1 1/2" .
My Ferguson is almost 2 1/2" .
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Post by: Car54 on October 19, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
Does it matter if you shoot split or three under?
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Post by: DanielB89 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:00 AM
not for this study.  But I am finding if very interesting how they vary so much.  Makes me wonder why?  Bow design, shooting split?  limbs out of tiller?
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Post by: Greymule on October 20, 2016, 10:06:00 AM
Martin X-200  2 3/8"

Martin Jaguar  1 3/4"

Samick Sage  1 3/4"
Title: Re: Nock height study (your participation needed).
Post by: iohkus on October 20, 2016, 10:49:00 PM
Damon Howatt Hi-Speed (shooting off feather rest) split finger... 1 3/4"
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Post by: lt-m-grow on October 21, 2016, 10:51:00 AM
Daniel,  So this is interesting...are you trying to understand how much a the bow shelf is cut above center or how much variance there is in where folks set there nock?  

At first I thought is was the latter but now I am thinking it must be the former.  I haven't measured mine like you suggested but I set all of my bows about 3/4" above the shelf using a square.  I just don't find much need to tune beyond that (of nock height).
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Post by: drewsbow on October 21, 2016, 08:10:00 PM
Daniel makes a great string guys , give him a try . Drew
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Post by: DanielB89 on October 22, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by lt-m-grow:
Daniel,  So this is interesting...are you trying to understand how much a the bow shelf is cut above center or how much variance there is in where folks set there nock?  

At first I thought is was the latter but now I am thinking it must be the former.  I haven't measured mine like you suggested but I set all of my bows about 3/4" above the shelf using a square.  I just don't find much need to tune beyond that (of nock height).
Honestly, I was just wondering.  Its very interesting how an individuals results can vary so much when swapping between bows and I would assume that they have their nocking points set up at the same height on each bow.  Very interesting to me.  

do some bowyers put their shelf height at different heights?
Title: Re: Nock height study (your participation needed).
Post by: DanielB89 on April 12, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
ttt
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Post by: Possum Head on April 12, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
do some bowyers put their shelf height at different heights? [/QB][/QUOTE]
I'm sure they do Daniel. The other day I cut my shelf down approx. 3/8" to get my arra sittin on my hand. I always wondered if the bow's center should be at the throat.If so the distance from there to shelf and the distance above square from the shelf allows 2 variables.Guess it's a good thing I'm just a stupid shipbuilder! Aint got a clue bout bow design.
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Post by: LBR on April 12, 2017, 06:49:00 PM
Have to take into consideration some people shoot with an elevated rest also.
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Post by: Orion on April 12, 2017, 08:11:00 PM
To answer your question, yes, bowyers do put their shelfs at different heights above center. They vary that much because bow builders place their arrow shelf anywhere from 1 1/4 to 2 inches above the center of the bow. Have been doing it that way forever. 1 1/4 -1 3/8 above center are the most common, but there are are quite a few examples of others as well. Add the 3/8 to 5/8 inch above the shelf that most people nock, and you get many of the distances reported.

For a string maker, it is a good idea to know how high above center the shelf is cut for optimal positioning of the serving. Guess I've been doing it for so long that I thought everyone knew about it.
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Post by: ChuckC on April 12, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
I think that will depend a lot upon the bowyers formula for where to land the arrow shelf( anywhere from 1.25" to maybe 2" above center line of bow.  Also, remember, not all bows even shoot off the shelf and using an elevated rest adds inches.
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Post by: ChuckC on April 12, 2017, 09:11:00 PM
Ha.. guess I should have read them all Jerry.
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Post by: DanielB89 on May 02, 2017, 03:02:00 PM
TTT,

If anyone else would like to add their experience.