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Title: wood arrow tuning
Post by: topknot876 on October 18, 2016, 08:23:00 PM
hello tradgang
I have been shooting carbon arrows for a few years now and have been having success with bareshaft tuning, and I want to start shooting footed wood arrows, but I need to know how to tune woodies, what method should I use ?
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: McDave on October 18, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
I like to bareshaft tune wood arrows, but there are a fair number of prominent archers and arrow makers who don't. I think the reason is that no two wood arrows are going to be exactly alike, and so bareshaft tuning will vary some from shaft to shaft.  I say, "so what?"  I can still tell the difference between a shaft that is grossly out of tune and one that is close to being in tune, and that's all I care about.  I tune them by spine, length, and point weight.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: M60gunner on October 18, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
Another reason guys do not is breakage. If that shaft goes sideways into the target it may break.
I myself do not bareshaft woods. I am not afraid to but I go by my 10#-15# rule. 10# more than bow weight for target, 15# for broadheads. I know, not scientific enough for most guys but it has worked for me for years.
If you do decide to bareshaft just make sure every shaft is super straight.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: snag on October 18, 2016, 10:27:00 PM
I have never broken a wood shaft while bareshaft tuning. You can get close by selecting a spine group or two. This will depend on the bow and how it's shelf is cut, your draw length, string type, etc. I start out with the point weight I want to shoot. Then shoot and cut down a little at a time. Not hard.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: Shadowhnter on October 18, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by snag:
I have never broken a wood shaft while bareshaft tuning. You can get close by selecting a spine group or two. This will depend on the bow and how it's shelf is cut, your draw length, string type, etc. I start out with the point weight I want to shoot. Then shoot and cut down a little at a time. Not hard.
^^^^
This.   Its my exact experience too.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: Shadowhnter on October 18, 2016, 10:37:00 PM
Also, on footed shafts, most often the foot is a heavier wood, adding more point end weight which increases spine needs a bit. Unless you have a way to sand/grind your point taper, youll have to trim from the nock end to stiffen spine.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: topknot876 on October 18, 2016, 10:47:00 PM
how do you take the nock off if u have to glue the nock onto the shaft
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: Shadowhnter on October 18, 2016, 11:01:00 PM
I just carefully cut it off with a knife, then lightly scrape off the glue..
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: topknot876 on October 18, 2016, 11:21:00 PM
thanks a lot!!
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: topknot876 on October 18, 2016, 11:43:00 PM
how much will paint and cresting affect the spine of woodies ?
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: die_dunkelheit on October 19, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
When bare shafting wood, if like Shadow said you need to trim from the nock, just do your initial testing with nocks glued on with a little tightbond. A light twist and they pop right off. Then when you are done testing glue them on properly.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: A Lex on October 19, 2016, 01:53:00 AM
Bare shafting wood shafts? Start fairly close to the target, like 10 yards or even less. I broke a couple or three back when I was learning, but since starting with a spine that should be close, and starting close to the target, I haven't had a problem.

Best
Lex
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: BAK on October 19, 2016, 02:53:00 AM
When I bare shaft woods, I never glue on the points or nocks.  Friction fit them very tightly and they do not come off while shooting.  I usually use a box target stuffed with rags or plastic for the process.  They don't bind the tip.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: snag on October 19, 2016, 04:22:00 PM
Just put a little hot melt on the nock. You'll be able to twist the nock off when you need to.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: The Whittler on October 19, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Another way to take the nock off is run hot water and put just the nock under it for a few sec. take a pair of pliers and twist.

If nock does not come off then hot water again until it is loos enough to twist with pliers.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: southernarcher on October 25, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
I bareshaft my woodies, haven't had any break yet. I don't start bareshafting until the arrows are flying good off the bow. Then I match the length and point weight and start fine tuning.
Title: Re: wood arrow tuning
Post by: Biathlonman on October 26, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
I broke quite a few trying to bare shaft.  I paper tune with excellent results.  I have a variety of field point weights and broadheads around and tune with point weight.