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Title: Scammer on LW
Post by: md126 on October 01, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Just an fyi...  

There's a guy (or girl) who goes by "long" on the LW who's a confirmed scammer. Has sent fake USPS MO's (Postal Inspector has been notified) and has the number 661-462-7408. Only does texts and never gives address, name, etc..

Anyway, just a heads up
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: newhouse114 on October 01, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
Maybe I'm slow but what is the "LW"?
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Bladepeek on October 01, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
another archery web site
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on October 01, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by newhouse114:
Maybe I'm slow but what is the "LW"?
Leather Wall forum
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: newhouse114 on October 01, 2016, 02:31:00 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: McDave on October 01, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
If you receive a USPS MO from someone you don't know, what would be the procedure to determine that it wasn't counterfeit?  Take it to the PO?  Would your bank know if it was genuine or not?
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Tajue17 on October 01, 2016, 06:38:00 PM
there's a few over there,, I had a bow there forsale and RECURVE contacted me and same thing wanted to send a MO for it,,,,, someone said the MO he sends are from a bank called wildlife something I forget,,, but the bank doesn't exist and your bank won't know for a few days and your bow is gone but not sure if he actually got someone yet.

this is where the whole contributor thing works here,  its worth it to me to not have to worry anymore.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: md126 on October 01, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Take any USPS MO to a post office and they will know right away if it's counterfeit.  When in doubt about any MO don't send anything until it clears like a check

The contributor thing helps but it's not foolproof

Just wanted to let people know about this guy,  even if it's on LW. Take it or leave it
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Bowwild on October 01, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
I had a strange occurrence a year ago over there. Lots of little things seemed odd. One was how inattentive he was once he made an offer (full price). I suppose he had several scams int he works at one time.

I finally told him to forget it. He sent me an e-mail asking, "Why?"  I didn't answer. I figured I had already shared too much with him. I never sent the bow and he did not send MO...transaction never made it that far.

This guys are as worthless as a purse-snatcher.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: myshootinstinks on October 01, 2016, 11:19:00 PM
Most fraudulent USPS money orders are copies of original and legitimate money orders. Some of them appear authentic and are difficult to identify, the scammers have found a way to replicate the water marks. Your post office can call the accounting center in St Louis to verify based on the SN. They can tell you the amount and date the original was issued. If it's a copy in most cases original will have already been cashed and processed.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: MnFn on October 02, 2016, 01:26:00 AM
There is also a security strip running vertical - I think it says USPS in it.
But yes, any PO should be able to verify if it is a forgery.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: on October 02, 2016, 03:10:00 AM
I sold a bow, A Robertson takedown, over there.  The person sent me an email of a picture of the MO, I went to post office and mailed the bow.  When the mail got to him first I was a little worried, but the MO came the next day.    I guess I would be an easy target, but if he would have come over to my house, I would have handed him the bow for free if he could prove that he needed it and could shoot it.   It required stiffer arrows than I have on hand and I just wanted it to be put to good use.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: IndaTimber on October 02, 2016, 01:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by md126:
Take any USPS MO to a post office and they will know right away if it's counterfeit.  When in doubt about any MO don't send anything until it clears like a check
This
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Tajue17 on October 02, 2016, 01:47:00 PM
any money order even a non usps money order?
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Ryman Cat on October 02, 2016, 03:02:00 PM
Not here too, whoever this is they go by longest also as well as long that has plagued the L wall also. Wish there was something that could be done with issues like this.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Terry Green on October 02, 2016, 03:59:00 PM
Thanks will keep an eye out on him but those tops have yet to come to our classifieds since we've changed the format to being a contributing member....

I do have a question however.... how does he receive any goods if he never gives an address?
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: md126 on October 02, 2016, 05:08:00 PM
I'm sure he'll give an address at some point if it gets that far. Whether or not it's legit or not is another story
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: BWallace10327 on October 02, 2016, 05:15:00 PM
It helps to google the address.  I sold a bow on the other site once and the address that was given to me was an abandoned warehouse.  I quickly unsold the bow and halted communication with the individual.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Green on October 03, 2016, 05:02:00 AM
Terry.....the scam has nothing to do with goods.  It's the type of scam being run "net-wide" where someone agrees to buy something of yours, then sends you a bad check or fake MO for three plus times the amount and then says "oops, my bad....please refund the difference before I send USPS for the merchandise".  He's only interested in that real money refund.  The tip off when this thing started on various sites about two years ago was the "will send USPS for the ________".  

There are still plenty of folks in this day and age who fall for this stuff on sites where steps have not been taken to protect the members and the integrity of the site.  Trad Gang's policies have helped protect its' members.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Terry Green on October 03, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
OK thanks...

Sorry I'm a little slow.

where do you send the supposed refund?
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: FerretWYO on October 03, 2016, 09:36:00 AM
This was a big issue on several forums and sale sites. It began on Craigslist years ago. It's something to watch out for.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: Green on October 03, 2016, 03:09:00 PM
The "buyer" gives you the address when you "discover his mistake".  He blames the large check amount on a mistake made by his assistant, or some such nonsense, and then tries to go all in to effect a correction.  The game is to get you to go ahead and deposit his check, and send your money order for the difference to him right away.  By the time your bank discovers that his check is no good, he has your money.
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: md126 on October 03, 2016, 03:12:00 PM
Exactly Green,  this guy blamed the "mistake " on his secretary.  Poor girl... haha
Title: Re: Scammer on LW
Post by: myshootinstinks on October 03, 2016, 03:33:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Tajue17:
any money order even a non usps money order?
Not so easy w/ non-USPS money orders and the verification process varies. I normally use pay-pal but if a buyer wants to send funds through the mail I ask for a USPS MO or a certified check from a known bank. The certified check is easy to verify, just take it to your bank before you ship and the bank will verify with the bank where the check was purchased.
  If an unknown buyer wants to use any other type of funds like a personal check or grocery store money order, I explain that I will not ship until the funds clear the bank, usually 7-14 days.
  Of course, if I know the party I'm dealing with or have successfully traded with in the past, I'll send the item based on his word that he'll pay me for it.