been seeing nothing but does, cant figure it out any tips?
Lower your expectations?
sounds like you found deer, if you only have a buck tag, keep that area in mind for the rut.
Don't worry about it. I don't have any bucks to speak of yet really but I have does, so I know the bucks will show up!! You'll be fine. The does always pull them in during the rut.
Fill the freezer now. Then hunt for horns later.
Too warm where I'm at. Bucks are only showing at night on my trail cams. Cooler weather will help. Gotta be patient!
Sound advice here! Most years I don't see many if any bucks, and especially mature bucks until November
Put down some boot leather and find some White oaks in heavier cover. You will know when you find the right spot, as there will be rubs and scrapes near that special tree. My experience has been they don't move a lot when it's warm and often bed very near a food or water source.
Unless you want one of those does, don't educate them. Now is a good time to find the various doe family groups in the areas you hunt. Once you find them- stay out until the perfect time.
My 2c
Dan in KS
i did see one small 3 pointer in a swamp stand i hung earlier in the year/ maybe i will hunt that again tomorrow evening. going to try some acorns in the morning and do a little scouting for white oak locations. so bucks arent moving during the day this time of year? ive heard of people getting shots at them already
The property I hunt has no rules it seems. I almost never and I mean hardly ever see the same deer do the same thing twice. I also don't see the same deer from year to year. It's not a small place either. Little over 800 acres or crop land and river bottom. All this leads me to believe that atleast here (I won't argue with anyone else's opinions) deer have no patterns. Other than the obvious they need food water and cover. All that stuff is all over so really they can go anywhere they want and get all 3 here. You can have to much of a good thing I think. Best bet is to be out there every chance you get
They do move some during the day, but that daytime activity will increase as it gets cooler AND the rut approaches.
Good luck
maybe im too close to the house and need to get out there further, thing is how can i get to those spots in morning?
It's a rare treat to even see a buck around here. I had a year recently where I hunted a 6 wk bow, 2 wk gun, and a 2.5 wk late bow seasons without seeing a single buck.
Then throw in the antler restrictions (3pts on one side). I think the last time I saw a legal buck while hunting was around four years ago.
Thank goodness for my doe tag!
Kyle,
Am seeing ( or not seeing ) the same here in the south central part of the state. LOTS of acorns dropping throughout the woods right now. Nothing has to move much to eat. Good luck this season!
Todd
Hey Todd how are you buddy? There is a ton of acorns this year again, I'm going to do some scouting today with the bow and find them, you having any luck?
Sometimes you can have too many acorns. I am wondering if you are using trail cameras. They help a lot in determining patterns and identifying specific deer. Getting into a good stand in the AM can be tricky. I would suggest cutting a trail and raking it clean. We own a 24 acre piece of river bottom. My wife will only shoot a buck, well on one occasion she shot a doe, and has only killed two in 9 years. When the rut starts we see tons of bucks, and some dandies, but they are usually coming through after dark. Being a long time NH bowhunter I would suggest you focus on shooting deer and not just bucks. You should have at least one doe tag. Use it. Passing on small bucks is a personal decision but I shoot them. Organic meat is expensive in the stores and for me, as I get older, the hunt is more about sustenance than it is about big bucks. Since 1966 I have killed only four bucks that I have mounted. One was a giant that scored 152 7/8 and was a state record at the time (1990). Another suggestion is this, the best buck magnet is a doe or better yet a group of them. Figure them out and in Nov. keep up with them and the bucks should be more numerous and dumber. What part of the state do you hunt in? There is a big difference in deer density in some parts. My friend, Todd, often comes with me as the season gets along. In addition, in some areas big bucks are extremely hard to come by as they never get to grow old. Good luck. If you can find a yielding apple tree that is where I would be. Here is a pic from a few years ago. Never saw this buck. Only have a few pics of him chasing this doe 10 yards is front of my blind. Notice the time. Almost all the pics I have like t his are in the dark.
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If you have does, you will soon have bucks.
it happens. They are there if the does are there. just be patient and hunt as much as you can. They will start showing up eventually.
From what I hear, you should feel lucky to see deer in NH.
QuoteOriginally posted by Jerry Jeffer:
From what I hear, you should feel lucky to see deer in NH.
You've been here Jerry? Seriously, I began to see more deer in this state, and eventually some bucks, when I paid attention to detail. Wind directions, deer travel routes, MY entry and exit trials, stand placement among others. Then when I began to find unpressured deer, in unpressured areas, sightings went up again. I do all I can to hunt unpressured deer, and then in the thickest places I can find, and even then ONLY when wind conditions are right. I have hunted three times so far this year for a total of about 6 hours. I have seen three deer, all bucks, and passed on two. It took me a long time to find these places, but I did, and only my very closest friends know where they are.
There are no shortcuts, it takes work and patience. Keep plugging, it will happen.
Oh, and one other thing, kill some deer, no matter the size or sex. Actually going through that process is priceless!
David
im really trying this year, i never killed a big mature bucks just does and small bucks for meat, im looking for a mature buck and having a very hard time, im 30 now and hunted deer since i was 12 never nothing big.
Kyle,
While there are lots of nuts, I've yet to find concentrated sign. Right now it seems they can eat where they bed, bed where they eat without much movement.
Second what David wrote - got to do the homework and keep the line in the water. I particularly agree with Dave's emphasis on only hunting a spot when the wind/conditions are right. It's a struggle to be patient waiting for the situation.
Todd
If you've been doing this for 18 years, you should be able to answer your own questions. Not trying to be smart, but if what you're doing isn't working maybe you need to make a change. Wind, entrance and exit routes are key.
Not the easiest time of year to kill a big buck first of all. If you mess up on a local buck this early, you're pretty much done.
The real secret in NH is to hunt undisturbed deer. Often that is done best in suburban settings where hunting pressure is low. Biggest problem is getting permission. We had a chance to buy 24 acres of landlocked land and jumped on it. Posted it and my wife, Todd and I are the only ones that can hunt it. Most of the land around it is posted so hunting pressure on it and around it is minimal. If you hunt big woods your sightings of any deer diminish greatly, or so it seems. Deer like edges and thick cover. NH is just plain difficult for bowhunting. You need to put the time in and don't hesitate to shoot any legal deer if filling the freezer is in your game plan. In the meantime enjoy every minute you have in the woods.
I have been able to kill quite a few good bucks (all with bow), in NH, over my lifetime. I have not killed a single, mature buck, before November 1st. I hunt the early season to keep tabs on movement patterns, doe groups and general surveillance.
In late October, I will usually start to see an increase in daylight activity of bucks. When I start to see that, I hunt as much as I possibly can.
My most productive window is between November 9-14. Even thought the gun season is in full swing, thats when I have killed the most bucks.
Like David said, hunt remote, overlooked and unpressured areas. I try and be a ghost. Scout like I am hunting. Check cameras like I'm hunting. Find access that will not take you through deer movement. And, only hunt on the correct wind.
Good luck!
Seth
Bill Carlsen nailed it. Last year was a banner acorn crop hear in NY. It through very thing off in our area. We barely saw any deer the entire season never mind a buck.
its just frustrating seeing all these guys get all these bucks bow season that havent even hunted as long as me, maybe i have to find some new ground to hunt, my land was real good that bordered the water company now they opened that to hunting 5 years ago and it seems things arent the same, why would i be done on a local buck this early if i screw it up?
I've got one trail cam in a place I can usually catch pics of ALL the bucks within semi close proximity to where I hunt. I can usually get a pic of every single buck within miles on this one trail cam! This year I've got NOTHING! I get a incredible amount of doe pics and two small spikes! Weirdest year every for trail cam pics for me. I know there are other bucks as I occasionally see them at my house but they sure haven't showed up on any of my trail cam pics which normally produce.
in nj early season have to shoot doe first,have 11 different bucks comming in. I am waiting till first deer can be buck.