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Title: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Zebra13 on September 18, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
Gents,

For those of you who have bows of different brands and switch back and forth between them, do you experience any difficulty in doing so?  I'm speaking of switching between recurves.  I realize that this is largely dependent on the individual bows, grips, shelves, etc., but I'd like to hear your experiences.

I ask because I've got the new bow itch.  I've been a Silvertip shooter since I started and love em'...and the Windauer's are great people and make a beautiful bow.  I've got two and shoot them well.  But for some reason that I can't explain, I've developed a wondering eye.  I can't come up with a valid reason for wanting something else, but do I need a reason?  Logic be damned...

I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.

Justin
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: MCNSC on September 18, 2016, 01:41:00 PM
I don't notice much difference switching between brands.  Much like you I have been shooting Widows for years. I will get a hankering to try other brands every once and awhile (thank goodness those hankering are getting to be less and less often) those other bows are judged by how they compare to my widows, very few stay around for long. Thing is, I have one widow that other Widows are judged against. It just shoot better than any other bow.
 With that said, I have always wanted to try a Silvertip    :dunno:
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: McDave on September 18, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
I have a number of different brands of bows, and switch to another one every few weeks to every few months, depending.  The first morning I go out with one I haven't shot in a while, I notice the difference, because of a different trajectory and different feel, particularly if I'm switching from a shorter bow to a longer length bow, or from a recurve shooting carbon to a longbow shooting wood.  After 2-3 times, I feel fine with it.  If I'm switching to a heavier weight bow to hunt with, I'll give myself a couple of weeks to get used to the heavier pull.

All my bows are cut past center.  I don't think I could switch as easily from a bow cut past center to a bow that was only cut to center, and particularly if I tried to switch to one not cut to center.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Drewster on September 18, 2016, 02:24:00 PM
It usually takes a bit to adjust between shooting my recurves and self bows, but usually adjust quickly between recurves.  I think the more different bows you shoot, the easier it is to switch around.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: ron w on September 18, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
Good thing about Silvertips.....the grip. Bad thing about other bows........they don't have a Silvertip grip. I do like a low grip so I can get away with more than some.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: on September 18, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
I think it would have lot more to do with how similar, or dissimilar the grips are than the brand of the bow.

This is coming from a one brand, and basically, one bow guy, though!

Bisch
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Michael Arnette on September 18, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Dude stick with the silvertip! I shoot TallTines exclusively but would probably do a silvertip if they were more affordable. I don't think you could do better than either
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: trasher on September 18, 2016, 04:09:00 PM
I need about 10-15 arrows to get familiar again when I switch between my bows (Bezaleel Cougar,Bezaleel Real McCoy, Thimberpoint Kraken,Bigfoot Sasquatch SS.
All my bows are different Brands but nearly the same draw wight.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: MnFn on September 18, 2016, 05:18:00 PM
X2 Michael.
I have owned a few different bows. I have three now that I would use for about anything.

But if I had stuck with shooting mainly one, I wonder how much better a shot I would have been, particularly at longer distances.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: bucknut on September 18, 2016, 06:47:00 PM
I can switch from my Silvertip to my Tall Tines and not miss a beat. They are somewhat similar in grip though. The Tall Tines is just a natural though. You can sit it down for months and pick right back up where you were.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: nineworlds9 on September 18, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
I find that if any variance exists it is dependent on grips and poundage.  All my bows are within a couple pounds of each other so the arrow trajectory inside 25 yds is not very different.  I shoot almost every day and often shoot several of my bows in a session, so my brain is pretty well set to them.  I find that grip only alters shooting if it's a real radical difference, like going from a medium high locator to a Hill straight grip.  I think variety is the spice of life and frankly if your shooting is where it needs to be overall you shouldn't find yourself handicapped if you switch bows.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Terry Johnston on September 18, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
I have been switching this week between my Silvertip and Widow PSR. Grips could not be more different, but other than the grip pretty much the same. Like others have said, after a few shots Im good to go...
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Archie on September 18, 2016, 11:04:00 PM
I alternate between my Widow longbow and Widow recurve all the time.  They are very dissimilar bows, but I shoot them both fairly well.  I am getting a Java Man bow next year, and hopefully will be able to switch between the 3 of them with similar proficiency.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Danny Rowan on September 18, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
5 Silvertips on the rack. 1 Brackenbury Quest, 1 Timberghost static recurve, 1 Huntsman recurve and 1 Cari-Bow Silverfox. Guess which 5 get shot the most. I love them all but the Tips do it the most.

Oh, and I can pick any bow I have up and shoot it just as well as the next, no problem. Same arrow out of them all.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Tajue17 on September 19, 2016, 07:42:00 AM
for the most part as I switch from longbow to recurve to selfbow then back to recurve with me I find its the point of impact that takes me a few arrows to get used to again.  

if I go from a carbon arrow shooting recurve to a wood arrow selfbow my selfbow obviously drops a bit more and I already know because of being so familiar that the first few shots I have to pick a spot about 8" to the right for the arrow to hit on the money.

other than that its grips,, most bows have a grip that feels different from the other,, even recurve grips can have a different feel.

except for the selfbows I try to keep the arrows the same but to keep it spicy I like to shoot different broadheads from each.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Sam McMichael on September 19, 2016, 08:37:00 AM
All of my serious shooting is now done with ASL's, so I don't get much variance in grips and general feel anymore. Back when I played around with recurves more, there was a short, but noticeable, adjustment period when swapping out bows. But that was a long time ago when I was far less experienced in archery. Then, any change was a real test.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: kat on September 19, 2016, 08:54:00 AM
I own three silvertips, and everything else is compared to them. Their standard grip is better than any custom grip I have.
Switchig between Schafer, Widows, and Blacktails is a pretty adjustment for me because all are cut past center, and are close to the same poundage.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Bowwild on September 19, 2016, 12:58:00 PM
I shoot a variety of bows, some during the same session.  This weekend I shot my Bob Lee Ultimate a bit...nice!   However, I haven't (at least not yet) done this during hunting season.  I "play" with the other bows on the home range. Most of mine shoot about the same. I selected them for this very reason.

After gathering (buying, trading, selling) a variety of bows and models (all recurves) over the past 7 years, I've settled on a favorite brand now. In fact, I'd probably sell everything else and maybe pick up a 3rd Blacktail, but bows aren't doing well in the classifieds these days.

I'd rather look at em than sell for half price.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: GreyGoose on September 19, 2016, 01:04:00 PM
I shoot exclusively longbows at this point.  All (5) of mine are different brands.  The hardest thing for me to re-adjust to is changing the grip, and length variations.  I can shoot my shorter (60" and 62") bows okay, but they are far less comfortable to me than the longer (64-68") critters.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Zebra13 on September 19, 2016, 09:16:00 PM
Gents,

Thank you much for your replies.  It sounds like if I get something other than a Tip, switching back and forth won't be that big of a deal.

I have a sudden need to own a bow made of black & white ebony, with a gaboon ebony flare.  The flares on Stalkers and Blacktails are more aesthetically pleasing to me than the Tip's flare, so my eye has wandered from home a bit.  And compared to Blacktails and Silvertips, Stalkers are down-right affordable!  But as my Tips shoot to the same point, sticking with them would probably be the smart thing to do...but I've never been accused of being overly bright.

Decisions, decisions...

Justin
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Bowwild on September 19, 2016, 10:09:00 PM
For sure you've named three terrific bows in this last post. I've owned all three. I think that Schleyer by Stalker is fantastic. You can have it  made without the brass inserts showing as well.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: ProAlpine on September 19, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
My suggestion is to look into the Silvertip 3 piece longbow. It's a hybrid style with the standard Schafer grip, though the riser is a little narrower than the recurve riser.

I was a dedicated recurve shooter - Blacktails, Robertsons, Schafer, Howatts, Bears...  but couldn't help but trying something new. Then I stumbled upon this used Silvertip longbow and I can't be happier. Seems like the best of both worlds to (recurves and longbows). I'm sure Howard Hill fans find the Schafer grip sacrilegious, but it's my favorite! Give it a try!!!
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Red Beastmaster on September 20, 2016, 08:25:00 AM
I switch between all my recurves and longbows often. After a dozen or two shots my mind has adjusted and I'm good to go.

I could never just randomly pick a bow and immediately go hunting. I need several shots to acclimate myself to the new bow.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: huskyarcher on September 21, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
It's not that I can't shoot other bows pretty well, it's just that I feel like I'm "cheating" on my favorite Bowyer lol.

I know this is a ridiculous notion, but I really really like my Omega    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: DaveT1963 on September 21, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
I agree with Danny - I have many bows, but all are similar in draw weight and I shoot the same arrow from almost all of them.  I often take three out for an evening of shooting and just don't see much difference..... course I am not all that great of a shot but usually can find the kill zone at 30 yards
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Zebra13 on September 21, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by huskyarcher:
It's not that I can't shoot other bows pretty well, it's just that I feel like I'm "cheating" on my favorite Bowyer lol.

I know this is a ridiculous notion, but I really really like my Omega     :biglaugh:  
Dalton,

I am LMAO, and it's not ridiculous at all!  I'm the same way...I feel guilty for looking at anything other than Schafer's as the Windauer's are such good people.  I mean it...I'm really torn on this one!

Justin

PS:  I thought you'd be bigger...
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Stumpkiller on September 21, 2016, 11:33:00 PM
Switching brands and switching weights and models within brands means I have to recalibrate my brain.  I pick a bow in January and shoot ONLY that bow until after the hunting season.  But I do always have a back-up in case.  You will find some bows don't require much or any rethinking (re-instinctiving?) when switching between them (and those are keepers).  

Different models within manufactures will shoot differently.  Especially if the draw weights are different.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: damascusdave on September 21, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
The basics of good form are the same no matter what the bow...if you want to know where I stand on this matter just take a look at my tag line...and I have added a Bear Takedown with 2 sets of limbs this week

DDave
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: damascusdave on September 21, 2016, 11:58:00 PM
I forgot to put in the tag line that my bows are about half lefty and half righty these days

DDave
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: mangonboat on September 23, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
DDave has been a bad influence. I switch brands, hands, bows, arrows, every time I shoot. I am trying to disciple myself, though,  and I'm down to a five-bow rotation these days. For an extra challenge, I alternate shots with completely dissimilar bows. I  mostly  stick with the same armguard and shooting glove and my stalker style quiver works for everything.
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 23, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
Traitor....


have fun with it....
Title: Re: Switching Between Bow Brands
Post by: Terry Green on September 24, 2016, 12:39:00 PM
I thought I posted on this already but evidently I didn't... I do know however I posted on other threads like this....

I've shot animals with two different bows in the same year... in the same month ... in the same week ....and even on the same day.

Once you have your form down and learn how to conform to grips you can shoot a decent Group by holding the bottom Fade Out