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Title: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Nockbroke on September 07, 2016, 10:09:00 PM
I've been making arrows time and time again with no problem. I've used many paints and finishes.I'im taking a break from working with paint to go the dye route (interested in alcohol anilines and homemade options) and additionally I've decided to pick up a high viscosity, waterborne, self-sealing, acrylic-resin top coat that I've adapted to work with my own rubber gasket dip tube.

Question is: Even after drying, will dyed arrows bleed into and pollute my clear top coat tube with color as I push the arrow into the tube and pull the arrow through the gasket?

Anyone with this experience or know of any preventative measures outside of using shellac/dewaxed shellac to seal prior to clear dipping? Suggestions?
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Shadowhnter on September 07, 2016, 10:17:00 PM
No suggestions unfortunately,  but my rit and alcohol does bleed into my container of clear. I use the same thing all the time so I never worried about it.  Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Nockbroke on September 08, 2016, 02:06:00 AM
Thank you Shadow, that's actually plenty helpful. I guess as of now my only option would be to wipe on a super thin coat by hand first, give it a light sand/wool and then start the dipping process. I was hoping to expedite the finishing by being able to go from tube to tube, but nothing's perfect.
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Terry Lightle on September 08, 2016, 06:20:00 AM
Yes,you can hand wipe the first coat then there is no problem.
Terry
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Jack Denbow on September 08, 2016, 07:55:00 AM
I use water soluble aniline dye and there no bleeding problem.
Jack
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Orion on September 08, 2016, 09:05:00 AM
Can't remember the dye I used, but I did get some bleeding when I dipped with Bohning lacquer.  Not enough that i worried about it, however.
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: M60gunner on September 08, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
I used red dye I mixed with DNA. Used Gasket Laq over it with no issues. I got the dye at Rockler's Woodworkers Store. I will say it is permanent, I spilled some on my work bench. That was 6 or 7 years ago. It is still three.
Title: Re: Does Wood Dye pollute Clear Dip?
Post by: Nockbroke on September 09, 2016, 04:14:00 PM
It seems like dyes and bleeding is mostly an unavoidable issue in some respects, but the solutions are simple so it's no big deal. If I wasn't so ocd with keeping things perfect in theory, then when imperfection occurs during application I'd be able to live with it!

Jack - I'm surprised that's the case because I just had that issue of a water dye bleeding into the water base clear. Maybe I should sand and do multiple dye passings?

i usually pull up a lot of dye doing the hand finish Terry, but maybe it's because I use and old rag and not a foam brush or cheese cloth - probably better options. I know I can take off some excess surface stain prior to it, but that always tends to give it that light bleached look, like it's already old. Hmm...

I think my hobby is making simple and imperfect things difficult in my attempt to perfect them...    :biglaugh: