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Title: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: txcookie on August 30, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
Im a die hard aluminum guy with my non traditional bows. I love them for their price, wt, and straightness. They are also super forgiving with all that speed I get.

I know nothing about Trad and am deciding to trust yalls opinion for arrow selection.

My bow is a 45 pound sage and Im drawing right at 28 inches. I plan to use 125 grain stingers as I have a pile.

Im looking at easton Legacy xx75 in 2016 Or GOLD TIP 600's.

I am going all in and planning on only using the recurve until something is in the back of my truck. I hope you guys can give me the advice I never got the first time I tried this   :confused:


Help me out fellas I want all your advice.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Scott E on August 30, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
Go with the carbons. Set them up with a 5 inch feather and you'll be ready to kill something
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: TealCoin on August 30, 2016, 10:58:00 PM
Shooting the same bow and draw weight/length. I prefer the GT 600s. Good luck
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: JimB on August 30, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
I use carbons but there's not a thing wrong with aluminums.I think with your point weight etc,2016's might be a little stiff and 1916's would be closer.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 30, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
I use 1916 with my 45# Sage and 125gr points. 2016 sounds stiff.

I never got around to trying carbon, the alum fly perfectly and are the right weight.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Firstlight on August 30, 2016, 11:55:00 PM
Most guys I  meet shoot carbons.   I shoot only aluminums.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: on August 30, 2016, 11:57:00 PM
Aluminum or carbon will both work fine if you get the correct shaft for your setup. It is totally a personal preference thing.

And I agree with above that the 2016's will likely be too stiff (if your actual draw weight is 45# at your draw length).

Bisch
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Rough Run on August 31, 2016, 05:01:00 AM
I have a Samick Phantom, #45@28", and I draw 29".  I shoot 2016s cut 30.5" to back of point, with 125gr heads.  I can also shoot 145gr with no differences, which makes me think that I may be able to shoot 1916s with the 125gr set up.  I am beginning to shoot wood, as well, but all my shooting companions shoot carbon and love them.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: maxwell on August 31, 2016, 09:11:00 AM
I like 2016 alum. with my 45# recurves and longbows.  I draw 26.5".
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Reaper TN on August 31, 2016, 11:31:00 AM
.600 spine carbon
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: AZ_Longbow on August 31, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
Carbons with aluminum footers.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Longtoke on August 31, 2016, 03:03:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by AZ_Longbow:
Carbons with aluminum footers.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: reddogge on August 31, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
You can shoot .500 carbons with 125 gr by leaving them full length (30.5"). That's what my 45# bows like. If you are cutting shorter go with the .600s.

Aluminums are great too. Again 1916s would be a better fit for you. 2016s always worked out of my 50# bows.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: dirtguy on August 31, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
I sure do like the 2016s.  They fly well for me and are durable.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Archie on August 31, 2016, 03:53:00 PM
Aluminums work great for me!  An employee of one of our trusted TradGang sponsors berated me at an event this summer for shooting aluminums.  Told me that since I didn't shoot carbons to not bother him.  It was so obvious that a another customer guy standing beside me at the table took me aside and asked, "Did he just say what I think he said to you?"

That being said, I guess I got the feeling that there's some animosity felt between carbon and aluminum shooters?  Whatever it may be, I have tried carbons but love my aluminums and don't want to change.

Oh, and I'm not going to identify the sponsor, but I will say that I go elsewhere now for my supplies.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Zradix on August 31, 2016, 04:15:00 PM
Carbon.

Way straight enough..or they're broke.

No worrying about a bent shaft.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Friend on August 31, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
Your choice...

Your own open minded experience with each will serve you well.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: txcookie on August 31, 2016, 05:42:00 PM
Well I just ordered a dozen xx2016s. I am going to leave them at full length to help with the stiffness. Should I go up to a 50 pounder I can cutem down and keep the arrows!

I also just prefer aluminums for their ease in use tuneing price pretty much all of it. Them blemished Gold tips certainly caught my eye tho
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Iowa Tom L. on August 31, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
It is definitely a personal choice.  I know aluminum, what can be done with it, and am geared up for it so that is what I stick with.

Besides, everyone knows you can't beat the smell of a new aluminum shaft!  

...or is it cedar?   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: txcookie on August 31, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
I'm excited. My progression has been great. At 20 I'm confident any deer would be in serious need of a veterinarian. I have always wanted to go trad and now it's happening. It may be a Samick sage but if it works it's gonna change the hunter I am.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Bow Bum on August 31, 2016, 11:34:00 PM
Aluminum.

Cheap, straight, easy to tune with a tubing cutter and hot melt glue!

For the price, they are every bit as durable as carbon.

You already know how great aluminum is, and you made a great choice!

BB
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: RC on August 31, 2016, 11:47:00 PM
I bet at this time more deer have been killed with aluminum than carbon by trad hunters. Won`t be that way much longer but this topic was once about wood or aluminum.Not on a computer though as that was way back. I been shooting carbon maybe 5-6 years with some aluminum but most of my critters have been taken with a 2018
 I like aluminum but it is hard to beat the deal on a set of blems from Big Jim.RC
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Pine on September 01, 2016, 12:38:00 AM
Aluminum for me when I'm not shooting wood .
I've only had bad luck with carbon .
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Broken Arrows on September 02, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
FMJ...Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: txcookie on September 02, 2016, 03:31:00 PM
Well I chose 2016 legacy.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Longtoke on September 02, 2016, 03:41:00 PM
For me the deciding factor is that I like to do a lot of stump shooting. I dont shoot at a target very often so my field point arrows get left at home and I do most my practicing walking around, shooting at random things with blunt tipped arrows.

Lots of wear and tear, and the aluminums bend too easy. I get a lot more life out of wood or carbons.

That being said if I was just shooting into a nice target with field points or animals then aluminums would be fine, as many said they are cheaper and straighter.

Another big thing to consider is shaft weight. what total arrow weight do you want and how heavy do you want the heads to be?

Both have good sides depending on what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: sjt85 on September 02, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
txcookie - if you have a need for 6 more shafts, I have some platinum plus 2016 I am not planning to use, including point inserts and push in nocks. The difference between Legacy and Platinum Plus is glue on nocks vs push in nocks.

-Stephen
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Mint on September 02, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
I've found carbons penetrate a lot better for me.

Saw a video once showing carbons and aluminums hitting the target. The aluminums vibrated like crazy and the carbons vibrated very little retaining more energy.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: crazynate on September 02, 2016, 07:54:00 PM
if guys are fighting over shooting carbons or aluminums on here they need to quit being like little kids fighting. We have people shooting xbows and air guns and traditional guys are fighting over who shoots what that's ridiculous. Some guys on here  are just plain childish. I shoot aluminums and if that bothers someone on here I'm glad. Your 45# bow will do fine with a 2016 or 2114. my 45# predator likes the 2114 better.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: sjt85 on September 03, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by crazynate:
if guys are fighting over shooting carbons or aluminums on here they need to quit being like little kids fighting. We have people shooting xbows and air guns and traditional guys are fighting over who shoots what that's ridiculous. Some guys on here  are just plain childish.
Who is arguing?    :confused:   OP asked opinions and folks replied with opinions and preferences. All responses have been civil and respectful...
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Longtoke on September 03, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mint:
I've found carbons penetrate a lot better for me.

Saw a video once showing carbons and aluminums hitting the target. The aluminums vibrated like crazy and the carbons vibrated very little retaining more energy.
I wonder if that had more to do with the amount of foc than shaft material. Would be interesting to see a study.
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Tajue17 on September 03, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
I say bare shaft the 2016's first,,,, you may find like I did that for 45# the 2016's may want a 200gr point or more...  now the stingers are still possible just use washers to make up the point weight.

you will have blood on the truck bed soon enough just get in tight where you find some deer poop scattered around and wait for a nice young doe to come browsing thru.

finally don't just practice at 20 practice at 5 and 10yds too,,,, a lot fo times early season brings those close shots many hunters don't prepare for..
Title: Re: Carbons or aluminums
Post by: Rob DiStefano on September 04, 2016, 06:11:00 PM
my absolute personal preference is carbon over aluminum, strictly due to the durability of shaft straightness during usage.  

beman ics bowhunter shafting was about the cheapest when i bought 7 dozen of 'em years ago.  dunno what their pricing is these dayze, or even if they're the same shafting as a decade ago.  for me, they work as well as the higher priced carbon shafting.

aesthetically, i love woodies best of all, but carbons are just SO forgiving and will stay far straighter than either woodies or alums - particularly on that special hunt when all of yer gear needs to be at its best for you.  

ymmv.