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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: txcookie on August 25, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
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I have dozens of great 2 blade heads. I also have a pile of original snuffers. Can I use them?
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2 blade > Woodsman style 3 blade > original Snuffer as far as penetration with a 45# bow. 2 blade with or without bleeders would probably be the better choice if your looking for max penetration. Just make sure which ever you use are shaving sharp!
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2 blade snuffers I have are 125gr. If you are using standard weight arrows, shoot broadside shots only, be a good shot, sharpen them well, and plan on the deer running off with your arrow until it breaks. You should get through the other side if you are close most times, but there will be those times...
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What's the draw wt of your bow?
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The original snuffers will be excellent if used with both proper overall mass arrow weight and arrow design relative to your actual setup.
Cannot comment on penetration from a stand, however pass thru's from the ground have been the norm relative to approximately 20 deer harvested.
Note: was utilizing arrows in the 600 gn range and in the most upper end of EFOC.
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I went through a snuffer phase with my 55# selfbows and was disappointed with the penetration.
I had a buck whorl on me at the shot and I hit him dead center in the neck. My 2 blade broadheads would have dropped him on the spot. He ran off never to bee seen again with the arrow flopping loosely in his neck.
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Wouldn't be my first choice. Maybe from ground level and a level shot, but definitely not from a tree. We really want that exit hole.
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I would use a 2 blade until you know what your set up can do, then think about more blades.
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Use a 2 blade head. There isn't anything wrong with the bow weight. I killed a truckload of deer with 43 pounds. But out of a treestand you won't get a pass through with either Snuffers or woodsmans a lot of the time. That's no fun.
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my experience with them is positive but I use the big 160 snuffers with 100gr adaptors on heritage 90's from a 48@28 Baraga that I only draw to 27" so should be around 45#, these shafts bare shaft perfect so the flight is dead on!
they blow right thru deer from my stands when only hitting ribs but I'm only about 10' off the ground,,, got my big doe last season shooting straight down and going away I hit her next to the spine above the liver angling forward and that snuffer was sticking out the bottom of her chest between her shoulders and bumping along the ground as she ran,, I know it would of passed completely thru but it hit the ground..
my snuffs are very sharp I spend a lot of time on each one and then use ceramics to polish the edge's,,, the tip is filed down for strength which I highly recommend..... I will be using them this year out of a few bows and using the 125's with my 46# selfbow.
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Its nice to hear from people with experience.
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I have often "pushed" my equipment I believe as I shoot low poundage. I have killed a good many deer and pigs with snuffers but now with a touch more experience I tend to have doubts. Funny thing,when I have a two blade on the end there is never any doubt.RC
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I agree that a 2 blade would be best, but I also know I've never lost an animal because of my choice in broadhead. Every single heartbreak has been because of a poor shot.
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I have done a 180 degree turn in my thinking with regards to broad heads. I use to want to have a two blade for complete penetration and if I hit the shoulder. Well with 47lbs and a shoulder that moves with the hit and absorbs the hit I have not received enough penetration to hit the vitals.
I tried snuffers, woodsmans and phantoms and liked the results on deer and hogs with most getting pass throughs even on hogs. My current favorite is the palmer extreme cut broadhead. On hogs I don't mind if I don't get a pass through since the arrow usually hits against the florida brush and really tears them up inside.
In summary, for me, I would much rather have a big hole in game even though it might not be a pass through since the "slit" of a two blade might not give me as good as a blood trail as a three or four blade.
Here is a picture of a hog where I buried the palmer extreme cut in the off shoulder. He only went 15 yards.
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo137/jm9862/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/12937518-58CE-45F3-8BA9-6F74E32C4783.jpg) (http://s369.photobucket.com/user/jm9862/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/12937518-58CE-45F3-8BA9-6F74E32C4783.jpg.html)
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at that pounfage i would go with two blade single bevel - the results are truly impressive. i will never shoot a conventional two blade again. That said, i will be trying Brent Hahns 3 blade Green Meanies this year on whitetail; will report back on results.
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I shot a buck a few years back with a 45# glass bow a friend made me. I was using wood arrows and 3 blade Snuffers, yes, they were very sharp. The buck was 8 yards away and I got about half my arrow length in him. He died, but it was a tough track job with no exit wound. I like them for birds, that's about it. 2 blade heads are the ticket with any bow any weight.
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I have had great luck with big broadheads but my confidence with the 40-45 lbs I shoot now is just not there with a big multiblade head. A big 2 blade yes but I have grown to love the single bevel. I do feel good with woodsmans though as well. I shot this pig several years ago with a 49 lb pronghorn longbow with a 625 grain arrow from the ground. RC
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0158.jpg) (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/rcswampbucket/media/IMG_0158.jpg.html)
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That wasa big snuffer. Pig was maybe 150 lbs. RC
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I do not have as much experience as most on here since last year was my first year hunting. I did use a 45# Samick Sage, the same bow you are asking about. The actual draw weight of the bow was a little more than 45# and with my draw length I was pulling closer to 48#. I used the original Woodsman three blade broadhead. I was able to hit one doe, my first deer ever, from a tree stand. That was at 18 yards and it was a complete pass through, double lung shot.