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Title: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Matabele on August 17, 2016, 04:41:00 PM
Hi all,

I know this may seem like a weird question and I understand that speed aint everything. I was talking to a bowyer though and he states his bows are shooting those specs with hunting weight strings and finger release, but I have no idea if that is "fast". I mean is that in A&H ACS territory, middle of the road or what?

Any advice appreciated thanks!
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: iohkus on August 17, 2016, 04:46:00 PM
That's faster than most. I would be HAPPY with that!
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: AZ_Longbow on August 17, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Think Howard hill said a good bow shoots 115fps plus the pounds in fps. That's with a hunting weight arrow. So that's good speed.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Possum Head on August 17, 2016, 05:22:00 PM
Faster than anything I have.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: highlow on August 17, 2016, 06:05:00 PM
Damn straight it's fast.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Car54 on August 17, 2016, 06:06:00 PM
I think its fast, 'course I have know idea how fast mine are...good luck with the bow , if you get it.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Michael Arnette on August 17, 2016, 06:36:00 PM
Yes that's pretty darn good speed for a longbow...you won't find much faster than that
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Dale in Pa on August 17, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
Very fast if chronoed at 28" draw, not as impressive if checked at 30".
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: A.S. on August 17, 2016, 07:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dale in Pa:
Very fast if chronoed at 28" draw, not as impressive if checked at 30".
That's the key....how far was it drawn??
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: crazynate on August 17, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
That's faster than my bob lee and my predator but my Great Plains swift shoots that fast too with 29" draw. If your drawing 28 that's super fast
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: KodaChuck on August 17, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
I'm seeing 191 fps with a 635gr arrow out of my 64" Palmer Recurve 57# at 30"....my draw is just at 30" plus 1/4" so I'm around 191 fps at  about 10.75 gr/lb ...the practicality of this speed is a very, very flat trajectory between 25 and 40 yards....with a nice heavy arrow....using small Bowjax string silencers and Fury string material.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: KodaChuck on August 17, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
I'm seeing 191 fps with a 635gr arrow out of my 64" Palmer Recurve 57# at 30"....my draw is just at 30" plus 1/4" so I'm around 191 fps at  about 10.75 gr/lb ...the practicality of this speed is a very, very flat trajectory between 25 and 40 yards....with a nice heavy arrow....using small Bowjax string silencers and Fury string material.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: ChuckC on August 17, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
I would be careful with words like "hunting weight", just because it means nothing.  Getting terms like using 10 gn / pound of bow weight tells more of a story.  What draw length was tested tells more of the story.  Either way, although fun to talk about, most bows are NOT getting that speed and folks do darn well with them.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Doug_K on August 17, 2016, 09:11:00 PM
Checked a few of my hunting bows a couple years ago for curiosity's sake, they were 165-185 with 10-11 gpp at 28". Cant remember if this was before or after I switched to skinny strings though.

An interesting side note was the most expensive one was the slowest. At the end of the day it doesn't matter a hell of a lot anyways.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Msturm on August 17, 2016, 09:24:00 PM
yep.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Al Dean on August 17, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
At 9 gr per pound I would say average for a modern high performance bow.  Bob Lee, Widow, Big Jim and probably 2 dozen other quality bowyers.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Wild Bill MCP 808 on August 17, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
That is good speed from that bow. Many factors affect speed.

Bill
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Petrichor on August 18, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
Honestly checked my arrow speed. Tune the arrows up and once they fly good I shoot them a whole bunch.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: wingnut on August 18, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
Yep 190 @ 9 gpp @ 28" is very good speed.  Our top of the line limbs in both RC and LB will be in the 198 range.

Mike
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: trasher on August 18, 2016, 09:55:00 AM
I got 199 fps with a 9,958 gr/lb arrow and 203 fps with a 9,2 gr/lb grain arrow.Tested with a hooter shooter.
I think your one is pretty fast!

  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: elkhunter45 on August 18, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
That's way faster than anything I shoot! Mine is silent though. For me that is more important. A little thump instead of a BOING!
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Matabele on August 18, 2016, 02:26:00 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, appreciate it! Mike what is the highest poundage you could do in a 3 piece bolt down...is 65# doable?
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: ozy clint on August 20, 2016, 03:46:00 PM
My border 70# limbs shoot a 704gr arrow at 195fps........with a 26" draw.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: newhouse114 on August 20, 2016, 06:07:00 PM
I'm shooting a one piece long bow, 13.25 gr/lb and getting around 165 fps. With 11.3 gr/lb it bumps up to about 175 fps. Personally, I'm quite pleased with that.
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: monterey on August 20, 2016, 06:33:00 PM
I'm shooting a 41# ASL with 675 grain arrows at 137 fps.  It'll do over 160fps at 10gpp, but I'll take the rainbow trajectory in favor of penetration.  I'm only comfortable at 20 yards max anyway.   :)
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: Matabele on August 21, 2016, 06:33:00 AM
Clint, I've heard good things with regards to performance and Border Bows...that sounds like a smoking fast setup you have! What arrows are you using with that setup?

I'm with you guys on the shootability thing too though...no point missing what you're aiming at!
Title: Re: Is 190fps @ 9gr/lb "fast"?
Post by: wingnut on August 21, 2016, 06:35:00 AM
Yep we can do 65 but not higher.  It's to hard to hit the high weights and we end up with limbs that are very hard to sell.

Mike