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Title: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: bagada on August 08, 2016, 08:31:00 PM
Just broke my new sammick one peice...    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/nightkid696/DSC09808_zpss3asbxoy.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/nightkid696/media/DSC09808_zpss3asbxoy.jpg.html)     (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/nightkid696/DSC09810_zpsidl9e9oq.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/nightkid696/media/DSC09810_zpsidl9e9oq.jpg.html)     (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/nightkid696/DSC09809_zpsxapsfu9h.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/nightkid696/media/DSC09809_zpsxapsfu9h.jpg.html)     (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/nightkid696/DSC09811_zpsmxcoh34i.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/nightkid696/media/DSC09811_zpsmxcoh34i.jpg.html)

Im new to archery so I wanted to know if this is common and what I should do. Picked the bow up at the post office on July 28. It was about 49.60$ for shipping to my PO. The bow was 180. So I paid $230 for a bow to last me  11 days of shooting. I didn't even make it to 500 shots. I doubt they will refund me the 50 bucks for shipping but I hope Lancaster can refund me at least the bow cost. We will see. Thinking of getting a used bear this time around. I bought the bow because the Sage is a great bow but I like the one piece style more.
EDIT. Lancaster offered me a refund or replacement free of charge. They also allowed me to get a higher draw this time around. 40lb original, 50lb replacement. The conversation was shorter than this post. Great costumer service at Lancaster Archery.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Sam McMichael on August 08, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
A bow that is handled properly certainly should not have this problem. The manufacturer should have a warranty in place to take care of this, assuming you did nothing inappropriate. Good luck. I hope it works out for you.

Don't let this event dampen your enthusiasm for archery.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: A.S. on August 08, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Call John Wert. He will take care of you. I am certain of that.

Sorry to hear about your new bow.  My son has the same bow, and loves it.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: meatCKR on August 08, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Yikes! Glad you were not hurt! Give John Wert at Lancaster a call.  He'll do you right.  Best of Luck.

Steve
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: bagada on August 08, 2016, 08:43:00 PM
Lol. It definitely startled me. I was bareshaft tuning and as I drew back, I heard a tick tick tick. I slowly undrew and checked the string( I though thats what was breaking). Then cautiously drew again slowly when suddenly It just blew up and left a small cut on my hip through my pants. I was surprised as hell. I loved the bow but now Im thinking of going with a bear instead. I tried to call but lancaster had just closed at 8-830 i believe. Ill try back tomorrow. I like phone calls over emails.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: LBR on August 08, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
Anyone who's made any number of bows has had a failure--it happens.  They will take care of it.  The big benefit of buying new is you get a warranty.  The same thing could happen with an old Bear, but no warranty.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: A.S. on August 08, 2016, 09:12:00 PM
Chad is right. I had a very expensive custom bow explode the same way once.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: achigan on August 08, 2016, 09:17:00 PM
Hey B. Glad you weren't hurt too bad. Give Samick a chance to make it right and let us know how it turns out.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Possum Head on August 08, 2016, 09:54:00 PM
My Son-in-laws Red Stag separated just like that after 16 months. Used Bears are hard to beat!
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Shadowhnter on August 08, 2016, 10:16:00 PM
Ugh... of all the hundreds of great Sage bows..... right?
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Bldtrailer on August 08, 2016, 10:55:00 PM
Lancaster archery are great guys   :scared:   IT WILL wake you up   :banghead:   hope you weren't hurt. and no this is not the normal most bows if taken care of will out last us all(keep them out of HOT   :campfire:   CARS)
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: on August 08, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
I have had a coule different bows break over the years. it always sucks. At least you had a new one that should be under warranty, and you were not hurt!

Good luck getting it sorted out.

Bisch
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 08, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
It can happen to any bow. Too bad it had to be yours. Lancaster will take care of you. They are top notch.

I love my Samick one piece recurve. They are great bows. No issues so far.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Ray Lyon on August 09, 2016, 07:05:00 AM
It can happen to any bow.  They will take care of you.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Mint on August 09, 2016, 11:10:00 AM
It looks like that bow broke at the glue lines. To me that is a defect when it was made and should not happen. They should cover your full cost.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: ChuckC on August 09, 2016, 11:22:00 AM
Glad you aren't hurt.  The bow will ( should anyway) be replaced, exasperation but it will end OK.  

For all the folks... maybe consider a little bit... If you were supplying a product and it didn't work in one case, would you want to be contacted and given the opportunity to make it right or would you rather someone post it all over the world first ?  There is a system in place... maybe we should use it.
ChuckC
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: V I Archer on August 09, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
Certainly entitled to express your displeasure/disappointment, but gotta agree with Chuck.  Give the folks at least the opportunity to make it right before venting.  Let us know how it works out for you.  Certainly looks like a warranty issue to me.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: TOEJAMMER on August 09, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
I don't see where he was venting at all.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: GWV on August 09, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
He was definitely not venting.  2 things op. 1st is you definitely got one bad bow out of a thousand.  I have only been shooting for several years and only tried a few bows but I haven't had one blow up on me.  2nd, since I haven't been in the game too long, I can remember when I only had 8 posts and new to trad gang.  Unfortunately, you will have a few on here ( great place) that will take your posts and twist it worse than your Samik
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: AZ_Longbow on August 09, 2016, 09:17:00 PM
I have had big name bows blow up and custom bows break. Not Manny but enough. The real test of the maker is when they stand behind the product. Give them a chance they may do right by you.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 10, 2016, 12:43:00 PM
There was zero bashing or venting. Just a new trad archer with a broken bow looking for advise.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: dbd870 on August 10, 2016, 12:46:00 PM
I have never read anything stating this is any kind of ongoing problem with them. I would not be afraid of the warranty replacement.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: RC on August 10, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
I also have had high dollar bows explode. They were replaced as this one will be. The Sammick line has put a lot of "new" Archers with us. These days affordable is a big thing. I have thought about a Takedown for rehab from a minor surgery in 35 lbs. RC
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: bagada on August 10, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
Hey so I talked to Lancaster and in under 5 minutes the call was over and a brand new bow is being sent free of charge with a return label in it to send the broken bow back. The guy Ryan also offered me a refund but I wouldn't get the shipping refunded so I opted for a replacement. He also let me order a higher poundage draw. The original bow was 40. I got a 50 this time. Amazed at the costumer service of Lancaster. No small talk, just straight to the replacement.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: A.S. on August 10, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
:clapper:  I would have expected nothing less from them. Everyone there is top notch and they KNOW customer service.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Matty on August 10, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
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Originally posted by A.S.:
 :clapper:   I would have expected nothing less from them. Everyone there is top notch and they KNOW customer service.
As I ditto that.... DITTO THAT!
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: LBR on August 10, 2016, 04:14:00 PM
Outstanding!  I wish everyone stood behind their products like that.  I have an $800+ bow hanging in my shop.  A friend bought it, it delaminated on the first draw.  Bowyer won't replace it.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: achigan on August 10, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
Good to hear B. Send a pic our way when you get it blooded.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: sheepdogreno on August 10, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
Sammick makes a quality product so don't turn you head on them. I killed the biggest buck of my life 160+ with a samick sage. I will buy a one piece samick just to say I have one bc I will always be trusting of the brand after learning so much with a take down sage.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: on August 11, 2016, 03:08:00 PM
Glad it all worked out for you.

Bisch
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Stump73 on August 11, 2016, 08:36:00 PM
Lancaster has been great with me in the past. I'm glad it worked out.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Thumper Dunker on August 12, 2016, 01:25:00 AM
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Originally posted by achigan:
Good to hear B. Send a pic our way when you get it blooded.
Ditto .
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Sam McMichael on August 12, 2016, 02:17:00 PM
Glad to hear that they did you fair and that you are pleased with the outcome. Speaks well for all involved.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Captain*Kirk on August 12, 2016, 07:47:00 PM
A word to the wise:
I bought my Sage from the local Bass Pro, paid retail ($139.00) but 'saved' on shipping. Fortunately I've had no issues with it. BUT...if I did, do you think Bass Pro would refund my money or exchange it?
I don't know, but I guessing the answer would be "very doubtful". Something to think about when purchasing from a source other than a dedicated player like Lancaster or 3Rivers.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: bagada on August 17, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
Hey this might be a dumb question but I took a video of me shooting and It looks like the bow limbs are really stressing. Could this be why the bow snapped? maybe im shooting a bow thats just too short for my draw length. What do you think?  (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/nightkid696/Screen%20Shot%202016-08-17%20at%2012.56.28%20PM_zpslb94spm6.png) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/nightkid696/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-08-17%20at%2012.56.28%20PM_zpslb94spm6.png.html)
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: The Whittler on August 17, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
That depends on the bow length and your draw length. I have a 58" Bear Grizzly and a 52" Shakspear that I pull to about 29" draw and have no problems. Sometimes things just happen.

How does it feel to you.
Title: Re: FAILED/Replaced Brand new Sammick One Piece.
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 17, 2016, 11:26:00 PM
The bow is 60", it looks fine at your draw. A recurve can take a whole lot more than you are giving it!

Your bow just let go. It happens.

Just don't ever dry fire it or let it strung in a hot car. That's usually how bows delaminate.