Just curious how you guys that are shooting these get them sharp
Steelmaster sold by Simmons works great.
Razors edge arrowhead guide and Hewlett 3 sided jewel stik works like a charm the key is make sure you have a good burr with a file before start with the jewelstik
Exactly what Jayrod said.
Best think I have found.
Check out the below video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
Definitely go with the razor system works awsome. Shaving sharp just replicate the video and you will have no problems.
Thanks guys !!
I've been intrigued by these heads since I first saw them. Resharpening is what's kept me from buying any. Just look like it'd be complicated. I may try some eventually though.
I use the steel master, works great
I have tried all of these gadgets with no success. Finally I bought a small nicolson triangle file.I black out the cutting edge with a sharpe so i can see where i'm filing. I like to lengthen the angle of the edge. Work in to the edge until all the black is gone them flip and go again,and finish with a 600 grit semi round diamond sharpener. When i'm finished they blow through both Hog and Deer.No need to wast time and money on fancy gadgets..
This might sound a bit basic, but I screw one on a small length of broken arrow, and sharpen like I do my knives, with an EZ-Lap diamond sharpener. They get pretty sharp for me that way.
I'll have to try that
I just ordered yesterday Simmons Safaris, razors edge guide and a three sided Hewlett jewel stick. Been wanting to try the Simmons broadheads, so Im going to do it right. Ive watched that you tube video of the guy sharpening the heads on a jewel stick. Cant wait to give it a try..
Small diameter Rat Tail
Three sided Jewel Stick
Small diameter glass rod...carry in field for routine touch up
After establishing a consistent proper technique, process is not difficult
I shoot the centaur heads, very similar and use this
http://www.centaurarchery.com/sharpener.htm#sharpening-video
Razor Sharp Edgemaking System. I customized my wheels by slightly rounding the cutting and honing edges of the sharpening wheels. I also resurfaced the cutting wheel with rock polishing grit. I use a short piece(4-5 inches) or arrow shaft to hold it and in 15 seconds I have an INCREDIBLE shaving sharp broadhead. My knives are the same way. After that just hone them on the honing wheel. Been doing this for a few years now.
Thanks for all the responses guys really really helpful
I just use a $10 Accusharp. Shaves hair at a killing angle.
I use the work sharp knife sharpener. Yeah the one you see on tv, it really works on knives or broad heads. I sharpen my Simmons with it and they are razor sharp. I cut my finger to the bone with one after I sharpened it when I was tuning. They are like 80 or 90 bucks but it was money well spent.
Wheelie for me. I never had a problem getting them to shave and they hold an edge very well.
This simple and inexpensive ($5-$6) tool will give you a great edge very quickly. A crock stick to finish and you are good to go.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/RADASharpener.jpg)
Charlie I tried that a couple on times and I get nothing. Wondering why
Thanks
I also shoot Jim's Centaur big game head..
A round chainsaw file and eze diamond rod works great!
When honing and touch up with the rod, I stand it up and lightly push the head from tip first down the rod to back of head.
I have Jim's wheel system.... Still in the box. I need to give em a whirl!
"I have Jim's wheel system.... Still in the box. I need to give em a whirl!"- DO IT! I have been using this a long time before Jim has been offering them on his website. Greatest sharpening device yet from broadheads to hatchets to knives. What I LOVE is this set up will quickly put and edge on even the hardest knife materials very quickly. Once you learn how to judge the angle you want it is easy and FAST (hint: use a reference point like the grinders arbor). I put mine on a regular buffer from HF Tools.
Hey Kent, I hear ya.
But when something works, hard to change!
Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.
You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.
Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system
It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.
For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.
I've used the Jewel Stick. It takes a long time but works.
What I'm disappointed in is the noise my Land Sharks make while in flight. They sound like little missiles being fired. I think it has to do with the vents cut out in the design. Way noisier than my basic 3:1 design broad heads.
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
This simple and inexpensive ($5-$6) tool will give you a great edge very quickly. A crock stick to finish and you are good to go.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/RADASharpener.jpg)
this is very true, but I can't EVER get them to work on it.
Pat Kelly(pdk25) is crazy good at sharpening the simmons heads on one of these Rada wheels. He needs to do a "how to" for the rada wheel. **HINT HINT**
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.
You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.
Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system
It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.
For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.
Yep. Took Charlie's advice on this a couple of years ago and can get them plenty sharp now. If you're having difficulties with brand new heads you may want to check the initial grind and knock that down with a round file. Once the edge is established the Rada is real easy.
I too use the RADA and have had good success getting them sharp. The real key for me was "Stropping" them on my thigh wearing heavy weight khaki's or jeans. The curved edge worked better on my leg that had some "give" as opposed to a stropping board. That took them to the next level for me.
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.
You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.
Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system
It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.
For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.
Charlie,
pictures are worth a thousand word. :) please help me out with this! i bought the Rada at your suggestions a couple years back and just couldn't get them any where close to where I was wanting. I am going hog hunting this weekend, so i would much rather learn to do it in 5 mins on the rada than 10+ with the jewel stick.