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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: RedShaft on July 30, 2016, 08:35:00 PM
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I'm wanting to go back to the longbow, I'm dropping down in draw weight to #45.
For those of you who shoot lighter weight draw what R/D longbow, or hybrid longbows do you guys like that performs well at that lighter weight?
I have a 28in draw and want a bow that's smooth drawing but reasonable length to be able to shoot from a stand.
Thanks guys!
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Talk to Chad Holm of Holm-Made Bows, his Osprey or Goshawk will fill the bill and not break the bank. Excellent performance, stunning workmanship and a fantastic guy to deal with. There is a reason I have 7 of his bows, recurve and longbows.
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A&H ACS 66" 45@28. If 66" is too long, get one in 62"
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Big Jim Babcock's Thunderchild line is good. There is one for sale in the classifieds right now, # 50 tho', unless it just sold.
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Sent you a PM
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Allen Boice has superb craftsmanship in all his bows. Look into Liberty Bows
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Omega long bows. Ask about the newer imperial. I am having one built now at 60 inch which the bower states gives up nothing to his original which is rated for 180fps with a 10gpp arrow and is 62 at it's shortest.
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Kanati by Jason Kendall, very fast bow and priced right.
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in fact there is a SWEET Kanati in the classifieds right now.
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I need to get on there I have not paid to use it since they started charging. when do you need to pay?
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Kanati!
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Need to check out Buddy Gould Poison Dart Bows, talk to the guys at Rmsgear, they are phenomenal craftsmanship and performance. I'm hoping to have one soon. I've shot the 62" model, it was just a little short for my31"draw, so soon as I can shoot his 64" model and if all is well with it and my draw, I'll be ordering one, next is. 66" whip or 66"a&h or 64" Dryad ACS lb. Since you are dropping in weight, shooting an ACS bow can keep you in same performance level
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Find yourself a used 64" Martin Viper or 66" Martin Venom. Carbon bamboo limbs that are real shooters for 45# bows!
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Second on Allen Boice's Liberty line. I have a 50# Chief that I really like. One of the best deals going on longbows. A great guy to do business with and a sponsor here. I think his line of bows covers just about everything that needs to be made.
Mine is 64" pretty much all Myrtle. A sweet shooter.
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Centaur if you want aggressive limbs, Mohawk if you like the mild r/d bows
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I had Bearpaw / Bodnik Bows build a custom Slick Stick bow(hybrid D/R design), in 64" (normal is 58-60"), and specified (and received) a draw weight of 44# @ 30". It has bamboo limbs, clear glass, walnut riser, fast flight bowstring capable. It is quiet and has minimal hand shock.
It flat out shoots. Smooth drawing to 30+". 30 year transferable warranty. Priced the same as their Slick Stick "stock bow," but you have to pay for shipping from Germany.
If you want 45# @ 28", just specify it. You'll get it.
I'm very happy with the quality, performance, and value of this bow.
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I have owed 4 Centaurs, and love them
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I hate double clutching
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Man I cant believe nobody has said a thing about maddogs Prairie Predator....Ive had numerous high end custom bows, but to this date my favorite of all ive had in my hands are these bows. You can pay a lot more, but I promise you wont find a better shooting R/D longbow imo. I favor his 62" bow.
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I'm partial to my Black Widow longbow... I really like it! I've had it for years, and still think I made great choice in getting it.
I would also recommend that you look into Java Man bows. They are fast and very well made, and while just as nice, they are not as pricey as a lot of customs.
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28" draw, Chad Holm Kingfisher be one to check out..
Thunderchild be on the radar..
Toelke Whip...
Wes Wallace Royal, at 64", probably be about right??..
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Their are quite a few very good performing longbows in the R&D style.It would be very hard to narrow it down really.
You will get a lot of recommendations and that's fine and gives you some ideas to mill over.
Every bow mentioned will be a good bow and liked by its owner.You would probably like many of these bows.But you may not love them like you think you might.
A traditional bow is a very personell thing to an archer.I have haad bows that many rave about and not really grooved with them.I have had bows that fly under the radar a bit and don't get all the love in print or the WEB and they were superb for me.
The best thing you can really do is go to a few shoots that have many bowyers and shoot the hell out of many different models and find one that's a cherry for you.That you just groove with and its like a good marriage.You can spend a few days doing this.Till you narrow it down to the one for you
you can also try other guys bows out at the shooting lanes or tryout area as well.Most guys will be glad to let you try their bow.Not all bowyers will be their.
Other than that all you really have to go on is opinions.Which are honest.But may do you no good.
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I just reduced weight on about thirty of my bows to 40-43#. They all shoot as well as the did in the heavier weights. So it depends more on what style of bow you like not the weight...tippit
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I just reduced weight on about thirty of my bows to 40-43#. They all shoot as well as the did in the heavier weights. So it depends more on what style of bow you like not the weight...tippit
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I have owned several of the hybrids already mentioned and the best performing one has been the Bigfoot Sasquatch hands down. Kirk is excellent to work with and will build you the bow you want.
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I love my Fox Royal Crown.
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Sarrels sould be my recommendation!
Bisch
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Leon Stewarts bows are real nice shooters and look great also.
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I did give a recommendation previously, but after reading steelheads comments I have to agree. I have owned 10 or fifteen bows in search of the perfect bow.
Also, don't get me wrong I love the bows I have now, but I wonder how much better a shot I would be now if I had just stuck with one of my first purchases- a 51# Shrew or a 56# Pronghorn.
People say it all the time but I wonder how many follow the advice of try to shoot as many bows as you can, - before you make a big purchase based on someone else's experience.
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Agreed that there isn't a lot of difference between the top performing bows, but there is a difference between them and the less than top performing bows.
Then again, we have different views as to what performance/speed difference is significant. Some folks consider a 10 fps difference to be insignificant. 10 fps translates into 3-5# of bow weight. To me, it's significant.
In a one piece, I like the Liberty Chief at 64 inches. In three pieces, an ACS of the same length.
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I like my 58" Brush Wolf from Dry Creek Bow Company.
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For a hybrid, the Bodnik/Bearpaw Quik Stick & Slick Sticks get high praise for performance across all draw weights. Smooth draw without stacking, no hand shock. 58" & 60" options. Almost bought one myself - still considering it. Check out the Kustom King site.
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Hard to beat a widdow longbow
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I second shadow hunter's recommendation of Maddog Prairie Predator 62" longbow. These bows are very inexpensive but perform like the high dollar bows & Mike Mecreedy is an awesome guy to do business with
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One factory bow to throw in the mix of the fine custom bows that have been recommended is the Martin Savannah. At 62" it is a fine tree stand bow. I must admit that I have never owned one, but the ones that I have seen shot appeared to be rather quick, enough so that I noticed. I prefer longer bows for myself. Good luck in your search!
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Right there in your neck of the woods, Pennsylvania… and a vendor on this site also.
Stewarts Archery
218 Coffroath Rd.
Coatesville, PA 19320
610-857-2340
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The Centaur Carbon Elite in Dark Matter is personally outstanding.
The only bow that I have moved which I truly miss. Had moved it in order to finance a special hunting trip....Real speed...smooth...stable...a complete pleasure to shoot and excellent long range accuracy forgiveness at 62"s.
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Thunder Child by Big Jim :archer2:
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Toelke Whip for me. An all around good bow, short wait time, and as good of craftsmanship as you'll ever see.
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Originally posted by neargeezer:
Toelke Whip for me. An all around good bow, short wait time, and as good of craftsmanship as you'll ever see.
Same here all day long!!!
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The ACS limb bows are very good performers and shooters. I like the bows from A&H Archery. Dryad also has hybrid longbows with the ACS limb.
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Lots of good choices, to the point of being confusing. Every design is a compromise and you have to figure out how the characteristics prioritize for you. Quiet, performance and shootability all set pretty high for me and I found all three in my Toelke Whip.
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Check out the striker line
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Kanati and/or Thunder Child.
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Not sure where you are in PA but I would give Leon Stewart a call. Leon is great to work with. Take a ride to his shop and shoot a few. The Slammer is awesome and absolutely no hand shock.
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I have had to move down in draw weight due to significant arthritis damage to my shoulder and a recent surgery to treat that damage.
Because of that I have been doing a lot of test shooting and research on bows in the low 40's that will shoot hunting weight arrows above 480 gr with the kind of speed necessary to be good hunting bows. I did research by checking multiple test statistics on line before I acquired any bows to test. Then I ran tests on a small selection of bows with good on-line reports.
My research led me to test shoot the Centaur and the ACS-CX, both in draw weights of 42-43 pounds. They are both are top performers in the low draw weight R/D bows. My shooting tests have convinced me that for me the Centaur is a little bit easier to shoot accurately, and less sensitive to string torque and other form flaws that show up in my shooting from time to time.
Both bows shoot hunting weight arrows of 490 to 550 grains as fast as my other bows that were above 50 pounds draw weight.
My conclusion is that now that I have to shoot bows below 50 pounds, bow efficiency and design can make up for some of the sacrifice of draw weight. An efficient bow will obviously outshoot a less efficient bow, and that efficiency becomes an important factor in lower draw weights.
Of course, there are many other great bows out there, and I wish I could have tested all of them. But, I can attest to the performance of the Centaur and the ACS-CX as top performers that can make it possible to move down in draw weight without a loss of performance.
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It would be just about impossible to find a bow that does not meet your requirements
DDave
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Love my Kanati. Jason is great to deal with as well.
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Originally posted by tstone:
Love my Kanati. Jason is great to deal with as well.
Incredible little bow at a great price point
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Is there anyone mentioned navajo bows? The apache longbow built by Roy Hall is really nice. With a suitable length of your draw length, its performance will be very good. Maybe the fastest but you'll enjoy it.
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Talk with Dave and Tracey at st Joe river bows their torrent longbow is a smooth shooter and fast for a longbow. I love mine and will be using for bear in three weeks
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Originally posted by Roadkill:
Allen Boice has superb craftsmanship in all his bows. Look into Liberty Bows
:thumbsup:
Allen's "Edge" will satisfy your R/D needs!
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Centaur or Bigfoot Sasquatch hybrid.
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Nate at Bamabows builds an Expedition III. Very reasonable and superb craftsmanship. He will build it the way you want it.
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KANATI
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What Ron w said X2.
Chad builds them as good as anybody and built very strong.
A great guy who will go out of his way to make you happy.
Short build time too.
Mine Osprey is Chechen riser and Cherry limbs (2 nearly identical in our household).
Gorgeous and great shooters.
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Check into a rich Emery Stik. He has a Facebook page and website called stikbows you can get a custom to your door that's a real shooter for a very fair price