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Title: Tuning aluminums
Post by: the rifleman on July 23, 2016, 07:19:00 PM
i have an older Toelke Whip w/o the HS limbs. It is 43 lbs@ 28. I have it tuned w 28 1/2" 1716s w 125 up front.  It bareshafts great.  I tried the same arrow in my 42lb whip that has the HS limbs and the arrow bareshafts very weak.  I draw 26 1/2 so know that I am getting around 38-40 lbs.  I have more exp w carbons and know that cutting a small amount greatly impacts spine.  Do alums react the same or should I plan on going to 1816 s for the bow w HS limbs?
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: The Whittler on July 23, 2016, 09:04:00 PM
Alum. will tune just like carbon, cut a little at a time. You have almost 2" to play with. I would take one shaft and try it.

The worst that could happen is you go with 1816. Good luck.
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: damascusdave on July 23, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
My experience is that aluminum reacts less than carbon to length changes and more to changes in point weight...load them up a bit and see what happens

DDave
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: Jakeemt on July 23, 2016, 11:51:00 PM
Nice thing about aluminum arrows is unlike carbon you really can custom tailor an arrow to length and point weight. There are just so many choices in spine where with carbons you only have a few. Why not buy a few singles and see what flies well and they can all stay the same length. As per you question you I find I need to cut about an inch off to really start making a difference.
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: Shadowhnter on July 24, 2016, 01:17:00 AM
Aluminum is nice and steady...nothing radical. For bare shaft tune, Id take 1/4" at a time though...a few extra cuts wont hurt if it means not over shooting. Cannot make it longer once you cut. Ive seen 1/2" make the difference between right, and ruined.
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: damascusdave on July 24, 2016, 01:20:00 AM
Not sure what I was thinking...loading them up will make them even weaker

DDave
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: dbd870 on July 24, 2016, 07:23:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by damascusdave:
My experience is that aluminum reacts less than carbon to length changes and more to changes in point weight...load them up a bit and see what happens

DDave
Other than your correction that is my (somewhat limited) experience as well.
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: Sirius Black on July 24, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Don't know what I do wrong, but I can't tune an aluminum arrow to save my life. Carbons: bare-shaft or group tune, no problem.    :dunno:
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: Red Beastmaster on July 24, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
I've always just looked at the Easton chart and bought the recommended shafts. Never ever had a problem.
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: LoneWolf73 on July 25, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
Ever try Nibbs up front?
Title: Re: Tuning aluminums
Post by: Wheels2 on July 27, 2016, 06:31:00 AM
I would play with different tip weights.  I think you can find a combination that allows you to use the same shaft on both bows, just with different tips.