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Title: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: tippit on July 22, 2016, 10:04:00 PM
OK this is my last post on reducing bow weight &  half skinned bows.  I did this Morrison Dakota this afternoon...58" 48#@27 Diamond Back skins, Bamboo lams, Osage riser.  Now 42#@28 but I needed to remove glass on back & belly thus having to grind some of the skins off.  This bow has a lot more contrast than the first half skinned bow that I posted earlier...tippit


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Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Jack Hoyt 75 on July 22, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
How about a "how to" on reducing these bows.  On another post you said you reduced,some by 10 or 20 lbs.  Did,not think that was possible.  Nice bows and knives by the way.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: tippit on July 22, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
Jack,
I previously posted how I remove weight...but unless you have a good grinder or spindle sander and want to live on the edge, I don't recommend this approach.  My grinding technics have been honed through my knife making...


Written Tutorial...
I always take glass off first. Gets more weight off quickly and keeps the same profile as the original bow. You have to decide if you are going to keep any of the original writings or not. Next if I need more weight off, I will trap the back or the belly pending what the glass removal looks like on either side. Plus I always try to keep my original tips for the last 4-8 inches with fades into them...don't want whip ends. If you still need even more weight off, then I'll try to narrow my limbs thus re-designing the original bow.

That's all there is to it. With my grinder, all that takes about 1/2 hour worth of work. Then finish grinder marks by hand and a couple coats of Tru Oil and done. One hour tops unless you are trying to get 20+ pounds off, that's a whole different ball game. I know some people will cringe at this but it works for me and that's all I'm interested in.

As to grinders...
I think most bowyers will be using a spindle sanders. I use my KMG 2X72" belt grinder with variable speeds which I use for my knife grinding. Plus several different attachments...mostly a rotary platen which has a rubber backing and the grinder belt rides on top thus conforming to the shape of the bow. Not a hard surface which will dig into the bow. Both being fairly expensive to just take weight off a bow or two...tippit
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Warden609 on July 22, 2016, 10:55:00 PM
Keep posting!! I like to admire your handy work.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: meathead on July 23, 2016, 01:00:00 AM
Those are sharp looking.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: elkken on July 23, 2016, 01:38:00 AM
Thats really COOL ... just a beauty of a bow with the half skin look
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: tippit on July 23, 2016, 06:49:00 AM
Strung and unstrung profiles of the tiller after 10# reduction...

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Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on July 23, 2016, 06:51:00 AM
Keep posting.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: tippit on July 23, 2016, 08:03:00 AM
These older Morrison 1pc Dakotas and Cougars are real shooters.  I use to call them my 3M bows...Morrison, Matlock, and Massie.  IMHO they will compare to any bows out there...as a matter of fact I do compare them as some of the best of all the bows I have or had.

Now that skins do scare me off reducing weight.  I have no problem grinding them down to half skins.  I like this Morrison better with half skins as the original full skins just didn't have much pizzazz.  I recently had a Cougar with Copperhead skins up for sale that didn't  seem to draw much attention.  Glad it didn't sell...now in line for a diet with half Copperheads.  Thanks for watching and all your kind comments...tippit
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: 4runr on July 23, 2016, 08:10:00 AM
Very nice Jeff.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Chad Orde on July 23, 2016, 09:15:00 AM
Love that look
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Sockrsblur on July 23, 2016, 12:35:00 PM
I love see your bows Jeff, wish you would post more of them not less. I look up the makers if I haven't heard of them...  very interesting!

Any final decisions about going to Denton Hill for a campfire?  :)
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: tippit on July 23, 2016, 02:16:00 PM
Jim,
The campfire would be might quiet for me this year so I'm going to pass on Denton.  I have an appointment for evaluation on the cochlear implant along with a CT scan of my noggin on August 3rd.  Hopefully surgery will follow shortly afterward.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Sockrsblur on July 23, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Best of luck with it Jeff, I'm rooting for you sir!
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: adkmountainken on July 23, 2016, 05:01:00 PM
that's just AWESOME!!!!!!
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: The Whittler on July 23, 2016, 09:13:00 PM
I think it looks better then with full skins.
Title: Re: Another Short Snake Bow...Last One Promise
Post by: Thumper Dunker on July 24, 2016, 03:29:00 AM
I like the looks of that . Real nice.