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Title: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Zwickey-Fever on July 16, 2016, 07:50:00 PM
I am curious what everybody thinks of this buck as for age and what he would score. I took a conservative estiment score of 185 and 6 years old. And no, he is not a high fence deer either. He is 100% wild.

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Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: CRM_95 on July 16, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
I think your dead on age wise and very close on score. I'm no expert but that's a MONSTER!!!
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Shadowhnter on July 16, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
Ugh....now we got 2 of these post going! There are More post on the other one...
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Caughtandhobble on July 16, 2016, 08:17:00 PM
He's old enough, score him on the ground  :)
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: KyStickbow on July 16, 2016, 08:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Caughtandhobble:
He's old enough, score him on the ground   :)  
X2!
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: on July 16, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Caughtandhobble:
He's old enough, score him on the ground   :)  
What he said^^^^^^^^^!

Bisch
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Michael Arnette on July 16, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
He is a mature buck and an outstanding specimen of a species in your area. I don't care how much he scores.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: huntnmuleys on July 17, 2016, 12:03:00 AM
Wow what a brute.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: dbd870 on July 17, 2016, 06:58:00 AM
I'm no good on scoring in velvet and once they get to certain point they are harder to age but 6 is certainly possible.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: katman on July 17, 2016, 07:15:00 AM
Difficult to tell with one pic, but hanging belly without back sag 5-6 yo is my guess. Around 180 with growing to go. Man look at those brow tines.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Tradcat on July 17, 2016, 07:31:00 AM
5 -6 yrs old and 185+
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Zwickey-Fever on July 17, 2016, 07:40:00 AM
Thanks for all the input. The only way to be certain is put him on the ground.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Shadowhnter on July 17, 2016, 07:57:00 AM
The reason I am estimating under what many are, is based on prior experiences, what a deer appears to be in velvet is drastically magnified, and when velvet comes off it makes the deer look quite a bit smaller in both length and mass. Looking at him, I dont believe he will gain much from this point, until he rubs. Id shoot him in a second,,,,but I do not think he is as large as 180+. Not enough there for that...at least not with deductions. He is a great deer, but to hit 180+, he'd have to have more tine length over all, more width of spread, and likely  more mass. 180's deer dont look just really big, they look gigantic. His brow tines wont make up the difference. Again, thats picking him apart....id shoot him in a second though...
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Sam McMichael on July 17, 2016, 08:00:00 AM
In a more precise estimate, he is a BIG, OLD boy! He is a really great buck, and I hope you get a chance to take him.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: kennym on July 17, 2016, 09:24:00 AM
After studying him for about .00015 seconds, I determined he's big enough. Already picked the spot.....

Hope you get up close with him.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Tim Finley on July 17, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Its impossible to tell how big he is going to be, they shrink a lot. I shot a buck in early Sept. that scored 150 and change, after it had dried it scored 142. He is definitely an older buck and a real trophy.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on July 17, 2016, 12:33:00 PM
Too hard to judge with velvet.  But I'm guessing 165 or so.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: T Lail on July 17, 2016, 05:24:00 PM
5 1/2  175 to 180 ????
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Stump73 on July 17, 2016, 05:42:00 PM
What a trophy and story you will have if you get him. Good luck!
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Orion on July 17, 2016, 07:53:00 PM
Probably 4 1/2 or so.  Would need a jaw bone to age any more precisely.  They grow pretty fast in the farm country of Iowa.  Velvet makes scoring difficult.  My WAG is about 160, give or take a little.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on July 17, 2016, 10:56:00 PM
I would score him at ...... OMG!!!
Usually WOW is big enough for me, so OMG would do.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: yth-mnstr on July 17, 2016, 11:21:00 PM
I'd guess min of 5.5 and 175
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Steelhead on July 18, 2016, 12:59:00 AM
Those brow tines are impressive.I think hes definatly an older deer of 5 or more based on body shape.
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Longbowlogan on July 18, 2016, 08:56:00 AM
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Here's the buck I shot last year with my Silvertip that is similar to the buck in your pictures. I didn't get mine aged but guessed him at 5.5-6.5 years old and he grossed 160" as a mainframe 8pt with a split g2 and a sticker point on the other g2. Your buck has more points and a little wider than mine so I'm guessing mid 170's!!
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: ron w on July 18, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
Old enough........and any thing over 6" is a good buck with trad gear!!
Title: Re: Age and score of this buck?
Post by: Shadowhnter on July 18, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
Not being a hard butt here, but as far as the book goes (P&Y)...gross scores dont count. Its the net score, after deductions and drying, is the measure of what the bucks true score is. Been that way forever.
I know personally a guy who is a non trad bow hunter, that took a 10pt deer here in Kansas.  It grossed a bit over 200 inches. The deer was massive and one of the biggest deer ive ever seen. With drying time and deductions to equal the true net score, the buck ended up in the upper 170's . At the time, it was #19 biggest archery kills in Kansas, and still remains in the top 25 presently..... Couple things here. It takes a genuine World class deer to finish 180 inches. They have to have it all...width, tine length,10 pt plus, mass, and even with few deductions or a massive amount of bone over sized to make up for deductions.

I realize many on here do not care about the book, or score....but if we are going to involve score, we should at least adhear to the standards of P&Y so we can keep our ducks all in a row. When I talk score, im talking net score, as we all should be to keep confusion down. If half only talk gross, and half only talk net, it gets mighty confusing. In the end, net score is what is written down.