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Title: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 23, 2007, 07:04:00 AM
OK I am a little challenged and cannot get pics onto this site as easy as I can on other sites but I want your help.  I am looking for true 150+lbs does AFTER field dress.  Many claim to shoot 150lbs does but almost no one actually measures them.  No certified scale needed as this is just for fun but Please just make sure you scale then and share photos.  These can be from this year or past years but lets see, and show some respect, for the BIG girls.  It is my oppinion that a true 150er is more rare than a P&Y buck and my "Not so scientific" research has proven this over the years.  My best to date is a 147 and over the past 3-5 years I have posed this thread on other sites getting a result of about 1% true 150ers.

If someone can help email me and I will send a pick of one of my best girls for you to post.  Lets have some fun and show some DOES!

robert.urban@abnamro.com

Thanks - Bob Urban
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 23, 2007, 07:31:00 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/bigdoe2.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Bigdoe.jpg)

Here's one I got a pic of last year. Never shot her so never weighed her. If she is under 150# dressed then you tell me what you think she would be.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Dsturgisjr on October 23, 2007, 07:50:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Idoe07.jpg)

Didn't put this old doe on the scales, but she was heavy for a doe.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Aeronut on October 23, 2007, 07:57:00 AM
My cousin shot an old doe several years ago that weighed 186# on the butcher's certified scales.  My heaviest buck weighed 184# on the same scales and was shot in the same creek bottoms.

Dennis
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 23, 2007, 08:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dsturgisjr:
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/Idoe07.jpg)

Didn't put this old doe on the scales, but she was heavy for a doe.
Thats a Hog of a DOE....almost looks like a kudu.....  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Minuteman on October 23, 2007, 08:07:00 AM
Check out the "Kansas" thread. Curt killed a doe that was terrible big!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Kevin Bahr on October 23, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
Holy Cow, Denny, literally!  That is one big Grandma doe...smartest animal in the woods in my opinion.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 23, 2007, 09:37:00 AM
Awesome Deer Denny - Just Awesome!  Was she shot in Michigan?  When did you shoot her?

Bill - I love the pics of that doe as well - She looks huge?  

Keep em coming Guys.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Kip on October 23, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
Bill that doe is not big she just got short legs.Wow Kip
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: BobCo 1965 on October 23, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
This was one of my bigger does, she was not 150 pounds, but she was 140 dressed. In comparison, I am 6'2" and weigh 230:

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/BobCo/More%20Stuff/BobsDoeCropped.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: vermonster13 on October 23, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
The biggest doe I ever shot was my first, she dressed out at 165(in Vermont they all go on certified scales). Haven't shot a doe over 130 since.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Blackhawk on October 23, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
The biggest whitetail of all that I found came out of Minnesota. A hunter there had a 402-pound field dressed whitetail taken in 1926. And, believe it or not, another hunter matched that 402-pounder in 1981.  Of course, these were bucks.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Izzy on October 23, 2007, 11:16:00 AM
The biggest bodied deer Ive ever seen was a doe.I didnt shoot her because I saw her in Moose River Plains in the Adirondacks during gun season but I have to believe she was all of 200.Again, I never scaled her but she was with other mature ladies and they looked like fawns.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: notdodger on October 23, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
Those big doe's are tough as heck to take also. I certainly call the old doe's a trophy.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: jimneye on October 23, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
Those old matriarch does are much more seasoned than the oldest of bucks (no pun intended).  There not swayed buy the rut like the boys are.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: PICKNGRIN on October 23, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
Here is one that was 140 field dressed.

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb149/RCHPICS/?action=view¤t=Firebird2.jpg
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Guru on October 23, 2007, 02:53:00 PM
Not sure what she weighed, but here's a big one...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/KS07/KS07126.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: JC on October 23, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
Curt, Miss Kim wants to know if she can have the saddle that came with that critter   ;)  

Dang if that ain't a freezer filler right there!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Guru on October 23, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
:biglaugh:
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 23, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
Those are all some PIGS - I love seeing the Big gals.  Take a look at PICKINs FDoe to get some perspective on How BIG a 150+ doe has to be.  His looks HUGE and it went 140lbs.  

Keep em Coming guys and never underestimate the Trophy Value of a P&Y DOE!!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Dsturgisjr on October 23, 2007, 04:29:00 PM
Hey Bobby, shot the old blow doe in MI last week.

Nice does guys!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: doakes on October 23, 2007, 05:02:00 PM
I shot one last year in the Mississippi delta that was weighed by the local game warden at 185 live weight.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Shawn Leonard on October 23, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
My biggest bodied deer ever was a doe. I hunt a bow only area and hunters can turn in the deers head and have it aged and if ya have the deer with ya weighed The DEC issues you another tag. This is to help manage the herd in the bow only zone. I bought in the whole deer as she was huge, she was aged at 11.5 years old and field dressed at 173#s. I have killed some nice bucks over the years and the biggest that I weighed was 168#s. No pics. , but certified by NYS DEC. The ENCON guy who weighed her said he had weighed thousands of deer and she was the second biggest and the oldest he had ever done. Shawn
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Dan Worden on October 23, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
Bob you do this every year. Don't  you know big does are an "Urban" legend?   :p  


Thank you, thank you, try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitress. I'll be here all.....aaaacccckkk!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bonebuster on October 23, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
Those photos are awesome. I`ve gotten some big does, but they weren`t as big as those. They look like horse heads on them things, not deer heads.

I like big butts and I cannot lie!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: doowop on October 23, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
No pics, but I killed a doe that went 164 on the meat processors scale.( dressed]. We grow some biggins here in IL.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 23, 2007, 07:59:00 PM
Well it seems that there are a few out there even here in Michigan.  That is one pig of a deer Denny.  But I may have to start an "Urban Legend" contest for the biggest Trad doe next year.  Give something cool away and keep it on a Gentlemens rule - weigh it with a scale and be honest type of thing.  I like to shoot bucks but I am facinated by the Big Ole Doe!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Otto on October 23, 2007, 09:40:00 PM
I wanna see pics of an "ole dry doe".  That's what I always hear guys say they shot.

BTW...those are some big ole gals you guys shot there.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Dsturgisjr on October 23, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/Dsturgisjr/daddoei.jpg)

I shot this doe last year and she wasn't small either. I'm sure she blew at me a few times over the years.This hunt is on Fred Eichler's Traditional Harvests V that just was released.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on October 23, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
I live in alberta some of our larger does can go to 200lbs before field dressing but most even up here where our deer a a bit larger do not dress out more than 150 lbs
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on October 23, 2007, 10:30:00 PM
I routinely saw does in the 150# class in Michigan and now here in the Ag fields of  Southern Indiana I see them again after having lived and hunted in California where the Coastal blacktail does were 75#. IThe first year I huntied out there I kept thinking it was fawns I was seeing. That was until I saw a fawn. I thought it was some kind of pygmy deer.
The doe that didn't offer me a shot last week was pretty big. I think she would have dressed at least 150.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: ArrowAtomik on October 23, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
You hunt the wrong state.  You have to go to a corn state with hard winters to find heavy deer.

http://www.ngpc.state.ne.us/wildlife/wtdeer.asp

Yearling bucks average 150 lbs in NE.  The 80lbers still have spots.  It isn't that hard to happen upon a doe larger than a yearling buck.  When I was a kid I shot a doe with much larger hams than the ten point buck we put next to her.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on October 23, 2007, 10:39:00 PM
AA The heaviest buck ever killed in Michigan was over 400 pounds and 14 pointer from Oakland County.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: fisheye47 on October 24, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
There have been a number of 200# DOES (FIELD DRESSED)  taken in the Bemidji area of northern Minnesota over the years.They used to have big doe contests durring gun season there every year-the deer were weighed on cert. scales.   CAM
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 24, 2007, 06:37:00 AM
ArrowAtomic - I live in Michigan?  We have the same deer although our herd is a little screwed up IMO.  Needless to say there are a lot of people who claim/say: I shot a Big, Large, Fat, Huge,(you put in an adjective) DOE.  But very few actually weigh them or even give them the common courtesy of a photogaph.  Lets see some of these BIG easy to find 150lbs+ Nebraska does?  I am not saying they are not there, Denny seems to find a few here in Michigan.  All I am saying is they are rare and talk is just talk.  I believe a true 150+ after field dress doe is more rare than a P&Y Buck and as you can see by this thread it is proving out.  

I just want to keep a thead going to see the Big Gals being shot and if you have a scale - hang em and share their weight.  

Keep em cominng - Bob Urban
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Tom Leemans on October 24, 2007, 08:34:00 AM
Southeast Iowa has them!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: mparks on October 24, 2007, 03:44:00 PM
Bobby,

Here is a Shiawasee County doe taken by my cousin.  Just under the 150 mark.  As fat as a LaSalle exec after getting his BoA buyout eh?

 (http://www.lcparks.com/albums/outdoors2007on/nick_scale_07.sized.jpg)

 (http://www.lcparks.com/albums/outdoors2007on/nick_doe_07.sized.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 24, 2007, 03:54:00 PM
MPARKS - That is a Hogger of a Horse head doe - Very nice!!

I cannot imagine the amount of dollars changing hands in this transition from LaSalle to BofA but it is Crazy big.  I, unfortunatly, am just a pawn hoping to hold his position in this game.  

Keep the pics coming

Bob Urban
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Swanny in MD on October 24, 2007, 04:05:00 PM
150# field dressed doe are hard to find here in MD too.  

I lived on my grandparents farm from 1968 to 2003 and monitored the deer population pretty closely on the surrounding 600 acres of farms since the early 80's...only recall shooting one that peaked out around 150.  Didn't see many others that would have gotten close to this weight.

Shot this one last year near the burbs at a customer's house, if I remember correctly she was around 140# fd.  There was one quite a bit bigger than she was too.

  doe (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/DEER001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 25, 2007, 06:29:00 AM
Keep them coming - TTT
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: superkodiak on October 25, 2007, 12:20:00 PM
I shot a doe a number of years ago that was at 180 pounds (not with a bow)  I shot her far away, closer to 200 yards and didn't really know how big she was until I started walking up on her.... I thought i shot one of the neighbors horses.  That doe was bigger than many of the bucks I shoot here in western Pa
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on October 25, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
Someone once told me there are more 200" bucks than confirmed 150# does killed in IL every year. I tend to agree.

A few weeks ago one of the guys at our achery club told me his buddy shot a 300# field dressed doe. I wanted to ask him if his buddy stalked it in a pasture and called it in by going "mooooooooo".
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: 2-BIG on October 25, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
Bob, I have never shot a doe that big but probably within 10-15 pounds of #150. I too have a fascination with big does and the past week or so on my way to work I have been seeing an absolute monster of a doe. I am tempted to ask permission from the landowner to hunt just to get her.  :readit:
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Blackhawk7204 on October 25, 2007, 03:41:00 PM
My second deer ever (1978) was a doe from southern Illinois weighed on the deer check station scales at 212# field dressed. They said she was between 6.5 and 7 years old. Funny thing was that was the best tasting deer meat I have ever had.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Homebru on October 25, 2007, 08:20:00 PM
One of the few things corn is really good for....'cept for makin' homebrew.
homebru
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 26, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
Blackhawk - I sure would like to see a piture of that pig.  Keep digging into your archived photo albums folks - lets see some big girls from that past too...
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: hickstick on January 21, 2008, 10:41:00 AM
I remembered reading this thread as I was looking at this pic I got from this past week....don't know if she's 150 #s but she sure it huge....guess the apples acorns and hay are keeping her well fed...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/hickstick/trailcam/chunky2.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: killinstuff on January 21, 2008, 11:54:00 AM
Deer weight seems to be just like how far the shot was. Keeps getting bigger the more times the story is told.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: oddan on January 21, 2008, 12:33:00 PM
I killed one in S. Il. that was put on a scale and she was 172#. She was with a buck I shot also and he scored 164 gross. Big does are in Illinois,maybe one out of 50 if that many. These were gun kills at @ 75 yards. Now gettin them big girls close with a bow is a diffrent story. Out Door Dan
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: vermonster13 on January 21, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
Marc how do you know that isn't a buck that's dropped his antlers already?
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: TimRadke on January 21, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
This girl was pretty close to 150.  Best shot I've ever made... She was stone dead in 4 seconds!  Unbelievable!

 (http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii45/timradke/Hunt2007010.jpg)
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: GBTG on January 21, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/GBTG_photos/bigdoe.jpg)
160# Western Wisconsin
I've shot and weighed dozens before her that were 115-125 lbs as mature does.
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: hickstick on January 22, 2008, 09:30:00 AM
david...another shot her head is straight on and no signs of shed antlers.  can't see the body too well so I did't throw that on up on photobucket....
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Morning Star on January 22, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
Some beasts there guys, nice.

I love shooting old mares. Their sharp noses and big mouths are responsible for saving the lives of many a deer.
The biggest doe I've shot was actually my first kill with a recurve.  One I'll never forget, burned into memory like it was yesterday.
I didn't put her on a scale, but later on I always wished I would have. If I could throw out a guess, she was probably close to 140lbs dressed!
Title: Re: BIG Does - Really?
Post by: Wudstix on January 22, 2008, 07:40:00 PM
Central PA used to produce 100-125# dressed does frequently when I was younger.  Best I've seen in Texas was guesstimated at about 130# dressed, I thought she was a mule deer, but she didn't present a shot.  Smart girl.