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Title: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Buckeye1977 on July 02, 2016, 02:02:00 PM
Was interested in what kind of tip protectors everyone is using for longbows and reasons why. Could also give reasoning for not using a protector. Thanks and have a happy 4th!!
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Jim Picarelli on July 02, 2016, 02:15:00 PM
Most of my longbows have the black rubber protectors...some have cut down baby bottle nipples on them(4 for $2)
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Pine on July 02, 2016, 02:17:00 PM
I got a tip protector from American Leathers when I ordered my Big Shot Crossover . It was in the package with it .
It's very nice light weight .
They must sell them , don't know why not .
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: M60gunner on July 02, 2016, 02:22:00 PM
Never could get one to work on my Hill style bow. On my R/D bow I am able to use the black vinyl one. I cut it down to fit the tip overlays. Works fine.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Sam McMichael on July 02, 2016, 02:24:00 PM
I use both rubber and leather, whatever the vendor has when I need one.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Archer1019 on July 02, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
I use one that's like a soft pliable plastic material. It's worth using. The only reason I can think not to use one is if you don't mind the chance of the bottom tip getting scratched up. It does hold the string on the one limb at least.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: J. Holden on July 02, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
I have the soft rubber one on my cascade longbow (ASL style longbow).  I have also used the leather type on my recurve.  The leather one was nice at first.  After some time it seemed to loosen up a bit and started slipping off when I'd unstring my bow.  Very frustrating.

I like to rubber type.  Difficult to get on but doesn't move.  Also it protects the beautiful tip as I like to place the bottom tip on the ground while waiting at a shoot or glassing while hunting.

If nothing else it keeps that bottom loop in place when unstrung.  Worth the few dollars in my opinion.

-Jeremy
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Yewbender on July 02, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
No tip protectors on my ASL's...just don't look right.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Rick Wiltshire on July 02, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
I personally have not found a reason to use them.  My tips stay just fine without them.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: M60gunner on July 02, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
A fellow shooter put one of those leather tip protectors on his Bob Lee recurve. It drove him nuts for awhile, bow was rattling when he shot. Of course he tried all the usual stuff until he took it off as per our suggestion. To much "stuff" for his bow anyway.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: sidekick on July 02, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
I use an appropriately sized screw tip protector available at most hardware stores. 1/4 , 3/8, 5/16, they come 4 or 5 to a pack. All depends on the size of your limb tip.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Friend on July 02, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
I use a trimmed binky.

Actually, personally prefer over the varied commercial versions that I have used in the past.

Easy to install and remove...excellent longevity....doesn't shoot off and can be trimmed for custom fit...cheap and most functional.

Just works well for me.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: rocketman on July 02, 2016, 10:59:00 PM
I second Sidekick's suggestion.  Those screw protectors are the best solution I've found.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: buckracks7 on July 02, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
I only have one of these, and wish I could find more. Anybody want to sell a couple? It's perfect for a small longbow tip.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/buckracks/TipProtector.jpg)
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Terry Lightle on July 03, 2016, 07:59:00 AM
Kipper
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: UMLarcher on July 03, 2016, 08:36:00 AM
I use the leather ones from 3 Rivers. They have a hole for the string to go through so you don't have to worry about them falling off. My only gripe is that sometimes dirt gets in it, so I take it off and clean the string groove once a year or so.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Don Stokes on July 03, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
Remember that your bow limbs must be balanced if they are to perform as designed. I don't use them, although my bows suffer for it. Dan Quillian cautioned me about that, and I noticed he didn't use them. I use both my longbows and recurves as walking sticks regularly, and the tips get scratched, but my bows are tools, not showpieces, so it doesn't bother me. I did use electrical tape on my Torges longbow. It's the only one I'm concerned about keeping pretty.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Buckeye1977 on July 03, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
Great suggestions everyone! I'm still debating on what to try. Anyone have pics of the their home made protectors?
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Homebru on July 03, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by sidekick:
I use an appropriately sized screw tip protector available at most hardware stores. 1/4 , 3/8, 5/16, they come 4 or 5 to a pack. All depends on the size of your limb tip.
:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:

Yes, it adds just a touch of weight to the lower limb.  Not sure that I can tell, though.
homebru

  (http://www.vetco.net/catalog/images/VUPN8446.jpg)
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Red Beastmaster on July 03, 2016, 12:13:00 PM
Really? Worried about the weight of a tip protector throwing off limb balance? Maybe if it's made out of lead.

Use one and save those nice tips from damage and potential problems down the road.

I use the plastic ones and worry about such things as form and getting closer to game.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: awbowman on July 03, 2016, 01:22:00 PM
We don't have many rocks here in Louisiana so I don't use them.  A tip can take a lot abuse IMO
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Rough Run on July 03, 2016, 02:19:00 PM
IMO, moisture is the biggest reason for their use.  Wear on the finish will eventually allow moisture to penetrate, and damage the not only the looks, but the tip and limb as well, potentially.  I expose my gear to a lot of conditions and I want them to hold up as long as possible.  If you just want the string to stay in place, a small rubber band just above the loop works.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: mahantango on July 03, 2016, 09:54:00 PM
If you think a tip protector throws off limb balance you got other issues. I use them on every bow that sees the outdoors, especially hunting. The tight fitting rubber ones are perfect, just stay away from the slip on leather ones, they can cause a slapping noise. For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would use a bow as a walking stick.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Jon Stewart on July 04, 2016, 05:24:00 AM
I have seen first hand what can happen when using a rubber tip protector and what moisture can do to a bow tip.  Not good.  If you have to use one I would recommend a leather one so it can breath so no moisture collects.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: dringge on July 04, 2016, 07:26:00 AM
Ive never used one. The tip of my bow doesnt touch the ground. When I am at a stop I rest the limb tip on my boot. I have always tried to be very careful. My bow is a tool but a fairly expensive tool so I take care of it.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: flyguysc on July 04, 2016, 10:59:00 AM
baby bottle nipple,3 year old clear)Walmart under 5 bucks.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Blessed One on July 04, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
When I talked to Dan Toelke he strongly advised not to use a tip protector but use cloth tape to avoid affecting the accuracy of the bow. I took my whip  and cut a small piece of tape in a triangle and attach it to the tip.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Rufus on July 04, 2016, 12:10:00 PM
"For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would use a bow as a walking stick."

Ever watch Fred Bear film of him wading streams?     :)    But he made his bows so.........

I knew a guy that used a tip protector, got his bow well soaked and it was wet under tip protector but he knew that not.  Did damage to his bow tip it did.
So might be good idea after a wetting to remove tip protector and let things dry out ya think?  Just wonderin.. R2
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: San Juan Slim on July 04, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
I shoot longbows and I've used my bow for a walking stick on many occasions-crossing streams, talus slopes, snow covered mountainsides, and boulder fields while elk, lion, goat, and sheep hunting.  I use the leather ones and have never had issues with string noise or moisture.  My bow tip contacts the ground all the time while shooting and hunting.  I suppose living in the dry climate of the Rockies, moisture is not an issue.

Mike
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: flyguysc on July 04, 2016, 03:36:00 PM
Set my bow down a lot ,of course I actually use it as oppose to a wall hanger so a tip protector helps ( Duh ) protect the tip.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Benoli on July 04, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
I cut a short piece of surgical tubing. Holds nice and tight and remains open so moisture dries out quick. Keep a few pieces in my quiver or possible bag.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: mahantango on July 04, 2016, 10:49:00 PM
Rufus,yes I have and it still makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: trasher on July 05, 2016, 04:41:00 PM
@buckracks7

I found them in a shop in Germany, if you are interested:

  web page (https://deichpfeil-shop.de/Zubehoer/Kleinteile/Endenschutz-small-5er-Set.html)
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: trasher on July 05, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
sorry double post.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: buckracks7 on July 05, 2016, 09:47:00 PM
Thanks trasher. I will see how they feel about shipping me a few.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: trasher on July 06, 2016, 06:57:00 AM
If they won't ship them to the USA, I can offer you the following:

Buy the protectors and let them ship to my adress in Germany. I will send the protectors to your homeadress! 500 gramms as a letter will at up $4.10 for you!
If you are interessted send me a PM.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Don Stokes on July 06, 2016, 10:28:00 AM
I'm in my 68th year and a polio survivor. Bad legs, so I use all the help I can get, including using my bow as a walking stick in one hand with a hickory stick in the other. My bows get abused, but I've never had a problem because of it. Adding weight to the limb with a protector CAN increase hand shock.

Anything you do to your bow's balance affects performance to some degree, whether you are able to detect it or not. Yes, I'm anal about it, but my 53 years of bowhunting have made me that way. Take no chances. My mental balance is every bit as important as my bow's balance, and anything that might introduce doubt to my shooting is eliminated, if possible. Four of the last five deer I've killed have been heart shots, from 20-35 yards. That's the bottom line for me. I haven't gone deerless in quite a while.

When I put electrical tape on my Torges longbow to protect it last year, I also added some to the top limb for balance. Negligible, I know, but...
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Jon Stewart on July 06, 2016, 10:42:00 AM
Don, I went to a house to look at three 68 and 67 Bear bows the guy had for sale. All three were in really nice shape, two were matching Bear cubs and the third was a Grizzly.  The Grizzly had electrical tape wrapped around the bottom tip. I asked the seller why he did that and he said to protect the tip. I unwrapped the tip and the tip overlay had dissolved under the tape. That incident is why I don't use tip protectors on my bows. Moisture is a bad thing on wood. Rubber sweats and retains moisture.

I understand your health issue and why you do what you do as it appears out of necessity but if archers don't have to, I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Don Stokes on July 06, 2016, 11:33:00 AM
Jon, I certainly don't recommend it either, but I have little choice. It works for me, and keeps me going. I removed the tape after the season, but thanks for that info. I'll be careful- I'm very proud of that Torges bow. I hunted with it five years ago when I got it, and again last season. Killed deer both seasons, both heart shots.
Title: Re: Longbow tip protectors
Post by: Mr. fingers on July 06, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
I was using a runbber one then I lost it while hunting I cut a piece of clear hose,or,tubing just enough to protect my lower limb tip. From my tree stands  and the ground and from whatever else.
I always take my bow out of the,case when I'm done hunting and hang it on its,rack and always take the tip cover off. I only have one on when I hunt. Same with a string keeper. It's only on when the bow is in its soft case.