ok whats the deal with carbon arrows, what makes one better then the next???? I ask this because I am shooting my #53 pound Northern Mist Shelton with a variety of carbon's at different weights and lengths and they all fly very similar and true. I am shooting:
30 1/2 inch GT blems with inserts and 300 point tip weighing 690 grains
31 inch Beman .500 with a 250 grain tip weighing 588
31 inch Carbon Express Heritage 150 with 250 grain tip at 681
Carbon Wolverine 31 inch 250 grain tip at 694
Some are footed, some have 50 grain brass inserts some have 100. and all fly nearly the same from my Shelton. my question is why would I spend more $$$$ on so called higher end carbons when I get the same result with a $1 shaft on sale at Walmart?? to be fair my Shelton is the only bow that shoots this wide variety of shafts with good results but it is the bow I shoot the most.
I only noticed this when I pulled one of the GT's out by mistake and shot it while I was shooting the Bemans. I then took a bunch of different weight tips and arrows to fool around with, as long as I had tip weight between 250 and 300 they all flew true.
If you have a good release and good bow form most fieldpoint arrows will fly well from a close to center cut bow. The feathers fix things fast. But slap a big broadhead on there and you will see a difference.
I like the CE Heritage arrows simply because I can achieve 11 grains per pound with out using a heavy brass insert. With the standard insert and 175 grain point my arrows weigh 479 grains. To do the same with GT I would have to really load up the front end on a stiffer shaft to get the weight up.
Well I need a tough arrows, my targets have "archers panic" and tend to jump out the way before the arrow reaches. :knothead: . I'm sure the difference is in how they mould / seam the arrows,manufacturing costs and obviously the brand name. Each with their own sets of pro's & con's.
Nothing wrong with the cheaper arrows if they are straight and you can can hit the target. Not sure though if you hit a shoulder bone how they would hold up?
"archers panic" LOL !!!!!!! :clapper: :biglaugh:
That must be my problem LOL
...if you put those same shafts on a spine tester I think you'll find the gold tip are miles above the others inconsistency....not far ahead of carbon express.
I refuse to shoot Beeman ICS Hunter shafts because I've had two of them fail on me while shooting and don't want to be pulling carbon out of my hand.
Consistency and durability, the slower the speed the less consistency matters. Start shooting really long distances though and consistency makes a lot of difference!
There is no difference in toughness between carbon express versus gold tip. I have shot GT for about 20 years and will continue to shoot them. I just think that CE holds an advantage in that they build a heavier bare shaft at the same spine weight.
the amount of carbony goodness poured into each one.
I'm sorry I don't really know, so I'll shut up.
What makes one better? Consistent spine and weight tolerances, as well a durability. Also there are different grades of carbon. The better ones can cost more.
If you have found a cost effective shaft that consistently works for you with all 12 in a dozen they are keepers. Heck if 11 work your still ahead.
I believe katman nailed it. Tournament archers need shafts which are extremely consistent as measured out to 60 yards. They will pay (or get paid) to use anything they believe will give them an advantage.
Why is one basketball shoe so much better than any other?
I think it's pretty much the same whether you are talking golf, tennis, archery or claybird shooting. The guys who make a living doing that sport will definitely have a preference. Let's face it. Most of the games are mental games at the top level where your competitors are pretty much at the same development of skill. If you think something will give you an advantage, it probably will.
I've had a lot of people tell me the arrow is far more important than the bow, but at my level (and I don't think I'm alone) GT blems shoot more consistently than I do. When I get to the point I can sort out my matched arrows from those slightly different, group after group, I'll raid the bank for better (and more expensive) arrows.
I have based my carbon arrow choice by their gpi , i use 300 grain points and prefer brass inserts. If i use a lower gpi shaft, i will get a higher FOC than if i use a heavier gpi (grain per inch) shaft.