I am looking at a bow and it has DAS Kinetic on the riser. Are these original David DAS bows or were they also made after 3Rivers bought them out?
Thanks
Yes, the DAS Kinetic was the predecessor to the 3Rivers Dalaa. Do you know if it is a Gen 1 or Gen 2 riser that you are looking at?
The Gen 1 risers have cut-outs in the sight window, the Gen 2s don't.
They are some of the finest hunting bows built IMHO.
What Allen said-
I am going to look again but I think it is Gen 2 then. The person said they bought it from 3Rivers a long time ago. Did they market DAS Kinetic before they bought them out?
Thanks
Gil
If they bought it from 3R, then it's a Dalaa. Still basically the same bow, not nearly as valuable. The original DAS bows were made of a higher grade of aluminum, and had a better finish.
There were about 100 Gen 1s, and 300 Gen2s built by David before he started selling them through 3R.
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Thanks. I will keep my eyes out for the originals if they ever come up. I have seen a few Masters come up now and then.
Thanks
Gil
Its really a shame what the internet and OTHER sites did to David. Sad...really really sad....he wore a white hat. Can't say that for the viscous kanits that trashed him to no end. Scum bags to tell you the truth. What they posted on 'pirates' was discussing AND obscene. What a bunch of losers!!! Oh, and they never kill anything anyway, that's why they really have nothing else to do but trash others for their own hunting and shooting incompetency.
Thank God for TradGang....where stuff like that doesn't happen.
I am surprised to hear that. I never heard anything bad about David. I just know of him from the Maters of the Barebow video and his bows.
I agree Terry. David was treated very unfairly. It's a shame he walked away from it all. I for one, truly appreciate his efforts.
QuoteOriginally posted by A.S.:
I agree Terry. David was treated very unfairly. It's a shame he walked away from it all. I for one, truly appreciate his efforts.
Me too I really enjoyed and got alot out of David's part in Masters of the Bow . I'm thankful that this site don't put up with crap like that and I wish David would come join us.
There is nothing to hear bad about David unless you want to go looking for idiots and liars and cheats and obscene personalities that want to discredit him for no reason whatsoever
Wow, didn't realize there were only 100 Gen 1's made. No wonder they always go for so much.
If it's a fair price on the Dalaa get it. They are good risers/bows. I've had two. Sold one and then regretted it and got another then sold that one to pay for a broken car windshield. Hopefully I can save up and get a bow again next year(sucky summer archery wise!) and you can bet I will look at the Dalaa again. I'd love to try an original DAS bow someday. They must be awesome with how well people talk about them.
I have two Dalaa risers that I shoot with Centaur limbs to make a 66 inch centaur. I really like this combination for accuracy.
QuoteOriginally posted by varmint101:
Wow, didn't realize there were only 100 Gen 1's made. No wonder they always go for so much.
Yep, and only 6 or 8 of those were lefties. I owned one of them for quite a while along with 3 or 4 lefty Gen2s.
pretty sure I have his last one! Had to beg and plead for him to make it, said he was done. but he made it anyway. Best purchase I ever made!
Agree with you Terry. Thanks for keeping this sight on course.
The dalaa has the same geometry as the DAS, but no cutout in the lower section for the slide in weight, just a less expensive metal for the riser. Another trad talk site has a thread about the DAS tribute being built by 3rivers and soon to be released, a 19" version of the DAS bow and named so as a tribute to David Sosa who will be getting serial #001.
Good luck on your search for a gen1.
My wife has one of David's risers from his first production run. After we got hers I took one shot with it and ordered one for myself. We have changed limbs now and again but we still shoot those risers. Best there is IMO. With Morrison limbs they are hard to beat.
I bought #17 from David originally. Still my main shooter.
Thank you Terry.
Can somebody fill me in on the story? (no nasty dirt or rumors, maybe just a little history on the builder and what happened) I've seen the DAS bows from 3R and they look pretty sweet.
Boy I want one of these after reading this post.
Kirk...there is no 'story' and nothing 'happened' beyond what I stated....this is not a soap opera site. Read what I said earlier, that's the story and it needs no further discussion....so there will be none.
Thanks.
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Kirk...there is no 'story' and nothing 'happened' beyond what I stated....this is not a soap opera site. Read what I said earlier, that's the story and it needs no further discussion....so there will be none.
Well, alrighty then.
Other than Gen 1 and Gen 2 series weren't there several different models? I thought there was a Master Hunter and Hunter.
Does anybody have information on the different models that were available and their differences to help me out if I see a used one come up?
Thanks again
Gil
Does anybody have any thoughts about the new Tribute 19" riser from 3Rivers? They are accepting deposits now.
The NEW DAS™ Tribute 19" Riser is the next generation of DAS™ risers designed with center shot and ultimate tunability in mind.
•Riser is machined from a solid billet of 6061 aluminum
•303 stainless limb pads, adjustable limb bolt and nut, and inserts
•ILF and DAS limb connection option available with lateral limb adjustment capability
•Type III hard coat anodized black
•Removable shelf for full centershot capabilities
•Each riser will be serial numbered*
If I remember correctly Gen1=kinetic hunter, Gen2=master hunter. Most are black but a few were brown in the gen1. These are 17"risers. The Das Elite is a 21" designed by David primarily red but a few of different colors were made. Lots of pics on the net of these risers.
Thanks Gary. I am searching and finding a lot of info now. Are you interested in selling your Gen 1? It was worth a shot!
Have you seen the new tribute 19" riser at 3rivers?
Thanks
Gil
I think the master Hunter just had better limbs and it was fully set up and tuned by David.
There was the gen 1, gen 2, elite, Dalaa that was anodized usually bronze made by David and then a 21" Naki,then 3 rivers Dalaa and soon to be a tribute.
I have number 13 in the Gen 1 and mine was considered the Hunter as I got the cheap kap carbon limbs instead of winex.
Thanks Chris. Keep me in mind if you ever decide to sell the Gen 1.
Gil. I sent you a pm about a Gen1 Das. Thanks. Bob
I am in Bob. Check out your email and PMs.
Thank you very much.
Gil