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Title: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 07, 2016, 09:11:00 AM
I picked up some of these Swamp Chestnut acorns in Tunica Hills. Got 5 of them to grow. Will transplant them to larger pots and let them get up a few feet tall before planting them in the woods on public lands.
I also have some Sawtooth oaks, persimmon and lots of Nutall red oaks. The Nutall oaks do well in the flooded bottoms here.
Who else gives back by planting trees?

Swamp Chestnut
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My nursery
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Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: varmint101 on June 07, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
I have a bunch of persimmon trees going now.  Had some English oaks I'd gotten the acorns from at the zoo when their trees were dropping.  3 started well, but only one remains. Swamp chestnuts look good.  I bet the critters flock to them during bow season.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 07, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
A friend told me he has some Chinkapin oaks on his property and said when they are dropping the deer are on them like white on rice! He's going to get me some acorns this fall so I can start some.
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Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on June 07, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
I had a huge white oak (4 full cords of wood from 1 tree) taken down in October.  In March I noticed some seedlings sprouting from the acorns, so I dug them up.  Now hundreds more seedlings have sprouted.  I want to dig at least a dozen more before I mow the yard in that area.  I doubt I'll live long enough to see the "fruits" of my labor, but I bet the deer and turkey will enjoy.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: DanielB89 on June 07, 2016, 10:30:00 AM
Corey,

you demonstrate woodmanship at its best.  All part of why you're so successful!
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 07, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by SELFBOW19953:
I had a huge white oak (4 full cords of wood from 1 tree) taken down in October.  In March I noticed some seedlings sprouting from the acorns, so I dug them up.  Now hundreds more seedlings have sprouted.  I want to dig at least a dozen more before I mow the yard in that area.  I doubt I'll live long enough to see the "fruits" of my labor, but I bet the deer and turkey will enjoy.
I know I won't likely see the fruits of my labor but the future generations will.
Plant bunches of sawtooth oaks, they can produce in as little as 4-7 years. Unattended more likely 10-15, so I hope I can see some fruit from those before I leave this world  :)
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 07, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
I planted 3 sawtooth saplings last fall, 2 are sprouting new branches but still hoping the 3rd one catches on. Planted some chestnuts too but they have not sprouted as of yet. Have a half acre clover plot that I started 7 years ago.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Whip on June 07, 2016, 11:09:00 AM
I planted over 6,000 trees this spring on a new piece of land we bought that adjoins our homestead.  Oaks, spruce, hazelnut, dogwood, and hybred willow.  Plus over 30 apples trees.

I do have a little hope that I will live long enough to see at least some benefit.  You would be amazed at how things can change in just 10 years.  That may seem like a long time, but I know how fast 10 years will fly by.  I hope by then to see the first acorns dropping, apples should be producing well, and the spruce and shrubs will begin to provide good bedding cover.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 07, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Whip:
I planted over 6,000 trees this spring on a new piece of land we bought that adjoins our homestead.  Oaks, spruce, hazelnut, dogwood, and hybred willow.  Plus over 30 apples trees.

I do have a little hope that I will live long enough to see at least some benefit.  You would be amazed at how things can change in just 10 years.  That may seem like a long time, but I know how fast 10 years will fly by.  I hope by then to see the first acorns dropping, apples should be producing well, and the spruce and shrubs will begin to provide good bedding cover.
Wow Whip I hope you had some help! I wish I owned hunting land, ive been planting trees on public lands nearby for years.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 07, 2016, 01:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Basinboy:
A friend told me he has some Chinkapin oaks on his property and said when they are dropping the deer are on them like white on rice! He's going to get me some acorns this fall so I can start some.
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Hes right!!!!!

I planted 25 Dwarf Chinkapins back in 09 and I had one of them produce acorns this last fall and it bloomed again this year   :thumbsup:

Here it is, its only 4' tall and full of blooms  :eek:  

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Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 07, 2016, 01:48:00 PM
I love Wildlife Habitat Improvement Projects   :thumbsup:  

All for the future generations to enjoy   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 07, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
Very nice 23feetup!  I see a good variety in them trays. Keep up the good work....
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 8upbowhunter on June 07, 2016, 02:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Basinboy:
A friend told me he has some Chinkapin oaks on his property and said when they are dropping the deer are on them like white on rice! He's going to get me some acorns this fall so I can start some.
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I know where there are a few of them on public land and your friend is correct. They are the first to drop in early October and the deer wear them out, just have to hunt them before the hogs show up and clean them out. Might have to pick some up this year and plant them for the future.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 07, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
Trad Hunting and Conservation go hand in hand and
it inspired me to write this poem this last year    :thumbsup:


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Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 07, 2016, 07:02:00 PM
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: nek4me on June 07, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
We have had 10 acres in VT for 15 years now. About 75% of the lot had been harvested about 3-4 years before we bought it. Although I didn't have to plant any it is interesting seeing so many more trees replace the ones that were harvested. It's getting time to cut some back to create more diversity.

We have located more than 30 apple trees on the property and find more all the time. Trim around and fertilize them all and have moved several saplings to more open locations. Unlike oaks and other hard mast it only takes a few years for the first apples to appear.

Have a wild crabapple at home that is loaded with fruit every year and have sprouted and transplanted six up to VT to hopefully supplement the apples.

Love watching the property transform and benefit the wildlife.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Roadkill on June 07, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
Trees? Not many in some areas here.  I cut down or pull up all the thistle I can find, even stop the truck.  Wish we had more trees and our DOW is goosey about non native species of anything
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Possum Head on June 07, 2016, 10:27:00 PM
I started about 15 Swamp Chestnut Oaks in December and have 5 that made it through a squirrel assault. They are about a foot tall now and I was considering transplanting them to larger pots for a second growing season just to monitor their growth. My soil is lacking something so bad that I have about 20 Sawtooths that are 8 years old and aren't as big as the ones that are a year old in pots. I've already made up my mind to include oaks on my next soil analysis to see where my deficiency is. I had a 5 Ph initially and low potassium. Now my vegetables grow reasonably well so I may need to prep my soil in the same manner where I plant my trees. Funny though because Live oaks do real well, perhaps it's the sand acid soil   :dunno:  I Think I'll do likewise Corey and plant some Sawtooths in the swamp next spring in an effort to get my Grandsons set.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: DXH on June 07, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
Planted some saw tooths this past year, hung up wood duck boxes
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on June 08, 2016, 07:05:00 AM
Planted 13,000 trees on the family farm a little over 15 years ago.  They were Oaks, Black Walnuts and Pine.  Deer use the snot out of them.  I think I have panted less than 25 trees since then, none of them for habitat improvement.  I have not been anywhere long enough to see any benefits and one place I do most of my bow hunting, would cut it down or mow it as they are trying to maintain a  specific ecosystem for butterflies.

2 winters ago I scouted an area hard and again late summer.  I did well with the late season hunting there.  Then when I pulled in last season to hunt, I couldn't believe it..... Hundreds of acres were mowed flat. all that remained were a couple hundred Jack Pines. You could see for 3-400 yards before the topography changed.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Jon Stewart on June 08, 2016, 07:53:00 AM
I have 35 acres, most of which were blue spruce and scotch pine. Soil abusers is what I call them ,LOL.  I opened up two small 4 acre fields in the middle of the pines and a couple of acres  behind my cabin. They chipped the trees and it filled 22 semi's.  I then planted 1000 pine seedlings along the edges of the fields and in the hardwoods.  I left the fields for food plots and work the two larger ones but the small field behind my cabin was left alone.  In 5 years I have  white oak, maple and cherry trees growing in the area behind my camp and the seeds were planted by birds and squirrels.  That area is so thick with natural vegetation  and tree growth that you cannot see from one end of the field to the other.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 08, 2016, 08:12:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Planted 13,000 trees on the family farm a little over 15 years ago.  They were Oaks, Black Walnuts and Pine.  Deer use the snot out of them.  I think I have panted less than 25 trees since then, none of them for habitat improvement.  I have not been anywhere long enough to see any benefits and one place I do most of my bow hunting, would cut it down or mow it as they are trying to maintain a  specific ecosystem for butterflies.

2 winters ago I scouted an area hard and again late summer.  I did well with the late season hunting there.  Then when I pulled in last season to hunt, I couldn't believe it..... Hundreds of acres were mowed flat. all that remained were a couple hundred Jack Pines. You could see for 3-400 yards before the topography changed.
Well, I guess 13,000 will burn a guy out a bit   :knothead:

What does it look like now, Deer Haven?
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Bowwild on June 08, 2016, 08:47:00 AM
For 40 years.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: darin putman on June 08, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
Last spring I planted about 270 seeds in root trainer pots, photo taken maybe a few months later.   (http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/darinputman/20150724_185038%201.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/darinputman/media/20150724_185038%201.jpg.html)       This year I managed to get around 170 of them in the ground. Osage, Sawtooth Oak, Persimmon and  Chestnut were planted in rows 20-25 feet apart with 20-25 feet spacing, Paw paws  and wild plums were planted 6-10 feet apart in smaller patch. My daughter and 3 sons ages 6-16 then, helped with the initial seed planting.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: 23feetupandhappy on June 09, 2016, 07:32:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by darin putman:
Last spring I planted about 270 seeds in root trainer pots, photo taken maybe a few months later.    (http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/darinputman/20150724_185038%201.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/darinputman/media/20150724_185038%201.jpg.html)       This year I managed to get around 170 of them in the ground. Osage, Sawtooth Oak, Persimmon and  Chestnut were planted in rows 20-25 feet apart with 20-25 feet spacing, Paw paws  and wild plums were planted 6-10 feet apart in smaller patch. My daughter and 3 sons ages 6-16 then, helped with the initial seed planting.
Man that looks like a sweet System!!
How are the seedlings doing now?
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: darin putman on June 09, 2016, 07:45:00 AM
Had a dry spell that worried me a bit, but Osage, sawtooth oak and persimmon seem to really be doing great. Have to keep a close eye on paw paws but there root system seems to take a little longer to establish.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Russ Clagett on June 09, 2016, 10:15:00 AM
We have cedar and mesquite.....

Yeah.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Basinboy on June 09, 2016, 12:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by darin putman:
Last spring I planted about 270 seeds in root trainer pots, photo taken maybe a few months later.    (http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/darinputman/20150724_185038%201.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/darinputman/media/20150724_185038%201.jpg.html)       This year I managed to get around 170 of them in the ground. Osage, Sawtooth Oak, Persimmon and  Chestnut were planted in rows 20-25 feet apart with 20-25 feet spacing, Paw paws  and wild plums were planted 6-10 feet apart in smaller patch. My daughter and 3 sons ages 6-16 then, helped with the initial seed planting.
Very nice setup Darin!
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: shankspony on June 09, 2016, 03:56:00 PM
Planting trees becomes a hobby in itself. Its easier for me in that I have my own land, but still I plant realising that maybe if im lucky I will get some glimpse of the end result when Im 70.
We have to do it for future generations as our main incentive I think. The last few years has seen me fence off areas of my land and plant about 7000 trees. My latest project I also pushed a clay wall across a valley and created an 11 acre wetland.

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Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Fletcher on June 09, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Great stuff guys, but please reconsider planting the Sawtooth Oaks.  They are a non-native invasive species and that never turns out for the best.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: meathead on June 09, 2016, 10:22:00 PM
I have a playground that I have been doing habitat work on for 10 years. A lot of it geared towards quail. We have a lot of deer and turkeys too. We have planted a lot of trees, native grass and built two small wetlands two years ago  

Fletcher is right on about the sawtooths too. You might get acorns 10 years sooner than planting white oak but in 30 or 40 years you kids will be trying to kill them.
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: darin putman on June 09, 2016, 11:10:00 PM
Thanks basinboy
Title: Re: Who else gives back?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on June 11, 2016, 05:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by 23feetupandhappy:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Planted 13,000 trees on the family farm a little over 15 years ago.  They were Oaks, Black Walnuts and Pine.  Deer use the snot out of them.  I think I have panted less than 25 trees since then, none of them for habitat improvement.  I have not been anywhere long enough to see any benefits and one place I do most of my bow hunting, would cut it down or mow it as they are trying to maintain a  specific ecosystem for butterflies.

2 winters ago I scouted an area hard and again late summer.  I did well with the late season hunting there.  Then when I pulled in last season to hunt, I couldn't believe it..... Hundreds of acres were mowed flat. all that remained were a couple hundred Jack Pines. You could see for 3-400 yards before the topography changed.
Well, I guess 13,000 will burn a guy out a bit    :knothead:  

What does it look like now, Deer Haven?[/b]
The deer have been using the snot out of the trees year round.  its funny, they will walk right down a row and rub on every tree.

The white pine has created a  lot of cover where they bed and spend winters.