Post by: BobinTN on January 25, 2007, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: Squirrel Bait on January 25, 2007, 01:20:00 PM
Post by: BobinTN on January 25, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
How likely is it that I will get lost?
Any info is appreciated.
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 25, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BobinTN:Yes.
How likely is it that I will get lost?
:bigsmyl:
Post by: Rick McGowan on January 25, 2007, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 02:35:00 PM
Email me at.....
[email protected]
Post by: STOBBER on January 25, 2007, 02:42:00 PM
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Post by: PeteTschantz on January 25, 2007, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
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Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
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Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: BobinTN on January 25, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
Your pictures are answering all my questions.
Whether pigs are sighted are not, the place definately looks worth the trip.
I just hope I can squeeze it in before Feb. 28th. That is the end of the season isn't it?
Post by: Ga.boy on January 25, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
healty guy's styles.
How about it Terry. Any areas with easy to moderately strenuous hunting opportunities? I have no problem walking several miles as long as it ain't up. Course if it's down, I've got a problem once I get to the bottom. LOL! Will a GPS unit work in the lower areas this time of year with most of the leaves off?
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 09:10:00 PM
Yep.....there's a few 'old farts' areas.
Yep.....we might be able to put a hunt together. Least for a Saturday...but I might could come up and get some guys started during the week if need be. Its been calling me pretty bad since I only got to hunt it for 4 days during bow season.....back in Sept.
Post by: Terry Green on January 25, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
There's shear cliffs, and places flat as a pancake....there's places you can see 300 yards, and places you can't back through. There's 2 wild and scenic rivers, and countless rough creeks.
95,000 acres of WMA, and 33,000 acres of Wilderness slap dab in the middle.
Aint skeered of bears are ya?
Post by: PigStikker on January 25, 2007, 11:16:00 PM
Matt
Post by: ethan on January 26, 2007, 04:01:00 AM
Ethan
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 26, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
better carry meat sack you wont want to drag up there.
Post by: NEB on January 26, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
You know I am willing and mostly able! With a little notice Dan and me will be up there in a jiffy! This may be a way to work off the holiday overconsumption. I'd bet we could get hogless and JC, and maybe even those more southern guys (SOS, Oconee Dan, Lynell, etc.) to come up. Man, I love that place!
Neil
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 09:48:00 AM
And like I said earlier.....if someone wants to start hunting during the week, I'd be glad to try an help them out logisticaly, and meet them up there if possible.
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 09:52:00 AM
Post by: JC on January 26, 2007, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 26, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: trh1 on January 26, 2007, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: NightHawk on January 26, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 26, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: Guru on January 26, 2007, 07:48:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 07:52:00 PM
Guru......there's always the TBG hunt in Sept. which includes deer and bear.
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 07:57:00 PM
The outside boarder is the Wildlife Management Area, and the iner boarder is the Wilderness.
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 26, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 26, 2007, 08:19:00 PM
Take a look at all the ridges and leads just tossed about - running in every direction in places......
North West Quadrant......
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/NWQ.jpg)
North East Quadrant......
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/NEQ.jpg)
South East Quadrant......
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/SEQ.jpg)
South West Quadrant......
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/SWQ.jpg)
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 26, 2007, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: NightHawk on January 26, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 27, 2007, 09:02:00 AM
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/chog3.JPG)
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/cbear2.JPG)
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 27, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: JohnHV on January 27, 2007, 11:38:00 AM
John V.
Post by: Terry Green on January 27, 2007, 12:19:00 PM
Out of season gobbler.
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Post by: JohnHV on January 27, 2007, 12:51:00 PM
Sounds like a plan.
All I need to know is exactly where and when.
I suppose we can establish the details as the date gets closer.
Looking forward to it!!
John V.
Post by: Ga.boy on January 28, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
Terry, I may try to drive up one day soon just to find the area that we would meet up at. Could you post directions from Calhoun? Can I get there with two wheel drive?
Thanks.....Chuck
Post by: Ga.boy on January 29, 2007, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: OconeeDan on January 30, 2007, 07:10:00 AM
Dan
Post by: Terry Green on January 30, 2007, 07:26:00 AM
I'll get some directions up in a bit.
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 30, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
Post by: Terry Green on January 30, 2007, 08:24:00 AM
From Calhoun get on 225 going north toward Chatsworth......go untill you come to a big intersection with 4 lanes and a turning lane at a red light.....turn right on that 4 lane and get in the left hand lane.
When you get to HWY 411, there will be a red light and a RR crossing in view, take a left on 411 and go about 8-10 miles to Cisco and you will see the rock church on the right.
Major,
If Bob or Chuck comes up early, that's where I'm going to take them.....a lot of that area can be 'old farts' area if they want to roam that, and there still some good hill climbing as well if they want to get there heart rate up a bit.
But, I'm not so sure about the critters being run off from in there after that 'special hunt' they are having the weekend before. High Powered rifles ......and if they open up all the gates.....that area will be disturbed to say the least.
Post by: gobbler10ga on January 30, 2007, 09:11:00 AM
Gonna try to get a couple trad buddies from Tenn to join in also
The gun hunt starts this week and goes to 8th
I dont think It will get hammered too hard this time of year. Jigger would be good in that everyone can meet at cottonwood patch camp
Unless it snows then we need to go high and ride til we see where they are crossin Plus we can have a trad snowball fight
Post by: NEB on January 30, 2007, 09:21:00 AM
Dan and I were talking about Panther Bluff last season. We both got close, and the sign was unreal. I noticed that there are not many people making it that far in. Panther trail is very narrow, and until the DNR mowed it before opening day, the briars were taking it over (read that to mean not even hikers are going down that trail!). It would deffinately be a big boys hunt, because getting a critter out of there is 1,000 to 2,000 feet up and 2 to 3 miles out no matter which direction you go! We both decided it would be a place we go and spike camp overnight. Oh man, I am getting all jittery thinking about this one. Feb. 24 sounds good for a day trip.
Post by: PeteTschantz on January 30, 2007, 02:33:00 PM
WMA Lic - $73
I'll be up that way on the 23rd and 24th, probably around Murrays lake, hope to meet some of you guys then.
Post by: SOS on January 30, 2007, 07:59:00 PM
I'm afraid SOS tain't going to make this one - don't know about any of the other southern boys - or even the eastern gang. Knee surgery in 2 days with hopes of being able to hunt Ossabaw 2 weeks later. Ossabaw is FLAT! And Cohutta is........NOT! Ossabaw greatest elevation change maybe 10 feet. Cohutta, maybe 2000! Ouch.
Don't forget to come by and shoot if you are in town.
Steve
Post by: Plumbob on January 31, 2007, 06:28:00 AM
Post by: GEREP on January 31, 2007, 06:46:00 AM
Good pics Terry...I've hunted black bears numerous times before and was wondering if my tackle was going to be effective on pigs. Looks to me like them pigs are just short haired bears. Must be that warm Georgia weather...
:>)
KPC
Post by: Terry Green on January 31, 2007, 07:39:00 AM
This is more than just a hunt, its an adventure unto itself, rugged terrain can be found just out of camp...but there is also some mild roaming here and there. There are two wild and scenic rivers in the wilderness, dozens of ruff and tumble creeks and streams, cliffs, waterfalls, hemlocks as big around as a VW bug, and mountain laurel galore. Its a very beautiful place, and makes for a nice Sept Hunt since its usually cooler here than in most parts of GA and even parts of surrounding states.
We had a fun crew last Sept...and want to make it even bigger and better....so make plans now for 'someday' in Sept 2007.
More Cohutta fun stuff.... (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/tracks.wmv)
Post by: Terry Green on January 31, 2007, 07:49:00 AM
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/cohutta3.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/OconeeDan/2006_0923Image0006.jpg)
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(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/MillCreekoverlook.jpg)
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Post by: Terry Green on January 31, 2007, 07:59:00 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/9-23-06%20Cohutta%20Hunt/Picture111.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/9-23-06%20Cohutta%20Hunt/Picture105.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/9-23-06%20Cohutta%20Hunt/Picture093.jpg)
Man you know its bad when you can't even see far enough to stump shoot.........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/9-23-06%20Cohutta%20Hunt/Picture095.jpg)
And here's a pic of our Friday evening meal ....Elk, Antelope, and American Bison....that's a sho-nuff bowhunter's meal huh?
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/tbg7.jpg)
Post by: OconeeDan on January 31, 2007, 08:24:00 AM
Dan
Post by: Plumbob on January 31, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
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Post by: gobbler10ga on February 02, 2007, 03:27:00 PM
high up around Bald Mtn low probably meet over by Connasauga and Jacks River at Cottonwood patch campground
What yall think Terry and J.C.
Post by: PeteTschantz on February 02, 2007, 03:37:00 PM
Post by: gobbler10ga on February 02, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: PeteTschantz on February 02, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
Pete
Post by: spotteddog on February 04, 2007, 07:28:00 PM
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Post by: OconeeDan on February 04, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
Dan
Post by: Terry Green on February 12, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: gobbler10ga on February 12, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
Hey Terry I want to chase them hogs that drop them dollar bills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/gobbler10ga/3.jpg)
Post by: Terry Green on February 12, 2007, 09:25:00 PM
A good friend of mine, Doug Johnson, and I were working an area pretty hard for 3 years that was on the Management Area....we saw bears every bow season...and every year we saw more hogs.
Now you gotta remember, we saw more hogs the 3 weeks before bow season opened cause we were on the move scouting than when we were set up on bears. But the sitings and sign doubled from the 1st year, and then doubled again the from the 2nd year.
Now in 2006 'they' decided to grade the road a month before the season and replace some old culverts.......the area was null and void of hogs and sign.
See, them critters are in there ALL year with the gates only opened for 1 week during gun season. So, the roads aren't considered 'cautious' till the gates open up. They might still cross the road....but they are much less likely to mill around near the road, or use the road for travel.
Opening up the gate an allowing people to just drive in and hunt...or just drive in and turn around displaces them for a bit. This usually happens only during gun season....but now they are having these 'special' gun hunts for hogs so they will get displaced again. These animals aren't use to being bothered, vehicle noise on these closed roads, and over trampling...so they just leave the area all together cause they got so much acerage.
For years they had a small game season that opened August 1st...but they didn't allow you to kill hogs(go figure), but they did allow it this year, but we didn't get to scout at all due to being too busy with all the rest of our lives.
All the gates that get opened are on the Management Area....not the Wilderness.
Again, if anyone wants to hunt this beautiful area, there will be an annual TBG hunt bout the 3rd weekend in Sept for bear, deer, and hogs.
Post by: Terry Green on February 13, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
Post by: Titan_Bow on February 13, 2007, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on February 13, 2007, 04:59:00 PM
There's not a lot of pressure at Cohutta, cause its so vast, and there wont be a 'flock' of people up there August 1st, or anytime before bowseason really. Not that many are going to hunt or scout much due to the heat we'll still be having.
There's a lot of guys that hunt up there, and the biggest crowds will be there the 1st two weekends of bow season....and the 'flock' will come during the gun season....and most of them don't hunt very far from the road, however, the gates will be open on the Management area, so that gives them more easier access to some areas that are better left locked.
Believe me, there's plenty of room anytime you go, cept opening weekend gun season....and even then, you can go a mile or two into the Wilderness and get lost.
Post by: PigStikker on February 13, 2007, 11:52:00 PM
what are the best times of the year to hunt hogs at Cohutta? I don't mind a little heat personally, so I was entertaining the notion of just heading on down in August when small game season starts! :D Aside from personal discomfort, are there any pros/cons to hunting that time of year? Are there better times of the year to hunt there?
Matt
Post by: RayMO on February 14, 2007, 08:46:00 AM
One of these years I will make it.
RayMO
Post by: Terry Green on February 14, 2007, 09:39:00 AM
Now you can kill hogs during the small game season starting Aug 1st.....so that's is a really good time cause the critters haven't had any pressure at all for 6 months, and they will be around or close to water most likely.
Post by: PigStikker on February 14, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
Matt
Post by: JC on February 14, 2007, 01:52:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on February 14, 2007, 03:11:00 PM
Thanks Joe.
Post by: J-dog on February 14, 2007, 06:21:00 PM
Here in eastern NC it is corn fields in Nov or MAYBE hard mast if you can find it. but mostly fields. But then you have the dog hunters to contend with, but sometimes they stir them up.
Might plan for that September hunt. Sounds like fun.
Later
Jason
Post by: J-dog on February 14, 2007, 06:23:00 PM
Jason
Post by: Terry Green on February 14, 2007, 06:59:00 PM
He's what little I know.....
Hunt white oaks....big ones. Try and find some on a Mt. top, knoll, ridge or long slopping lead. Personally, I haven't had as much luck hunting IN the bottoms. I think they must work their way down, and get in the bottoms after dark. I have had luck with major leads that end up in the bottoms.
The bears will most likely be climbing the white oaks the 1st two weeks of the season, then gathering underneath the rest of the season.
Try your best to find white oaks with claw marks and white oak groves with lots of scat and other bear sign. If more than one bear is using the area, then your odds of a sighting are increased dramatically.
Travel funnels between two oak groves is also a great place to set up if you can't decide which tree they are bound to hit. Look for trails twice as wide as deer trails, and a bear trail will have a 'packed down' texture vs the crunched up of a deer trail.
Pre scouting a week or days before the season opens is much more productive than 2 weeks before.
The best tip I can give you is to hunt a single tree with lots of scat near it....BUT!!!, you must find at least one fresh pile....how fresh? With flies on it!!!...if a pile aint got flies on it, I keep a walking.
Sparse acorn crop?...gotta wear out some boot leather to find the few trees that are producing. Can be tuff to find, but once you do, the bears will be there.
Normal acorn crop?....sign will be easier to find since the bears are moving a lot from tree to tree, and scattered about a bit more.
If we have a drought?...and all the acorns fall just before the season?....then I don't commit to any trees or groves, I walk and walk and walk, cause the bears will not have to move for food, you will have to find them. Walk travel routes like mentioned before, but try to walk those with known running water near by, since water will be scarce during a drought as well.
Afternoons are better than mornings, but that don't keep me from hunting mornings. I've seen them as late as 10 am.
While walking in, pay attention to 'loud squirrels' in the trees...they may be a bear. If so, stalk the tree from down wind, and wait for the bear to climb down. Now, pay attention to the tree, you may need to get cross wind. If the tree is straight with no obstructions, there's no telling where he'll climb down. But, if the tree is leaning, or on the side of a steep ridge, or has some obstruction to one side, the bear will take the easy route down at the base.....clear from obstruction, up hill side, or least steep side if the tree is leaning. So, set up accordingly the best you can with the wind still in your favor.
The early season seems to congregate bears in higher elevations, and they work there way down in elevation, since the acorns will mature earlier up hi. Now bear in mind, that some times there is a late freeze in the spring, so those higher elevations will be void of sign due to the buds getting nipped. If that is the case, then move down the mountain a 1/3 of the way, and scout your way down. However, I have seen bears low the 1st part of the season, so the higher elevation is a guideline, not written in stone.
Two weeks before the season will be the tailing end of the last 'patten' before the acorn feed, and might be tempting, but don't fall for it. If you scout early, you will possibly find sign in berry patches, around wild cherry trees, and in dead pine groves the pine beetles devoured because of the grubs in the rotting pines. Unless you are in the highest elevations in GA, this should be what you will find. If you are in the highest elevations, then you should find them already on the acorns unless of course there was a late freeze in that area.
Another thing to look for is saddle ridges between two tops....or connecting leads. The right ones will have a trail suddenly appear as the knoll narrows through the saddle, and then it will disappear just as quick as it nears the next knoll or lead.
Seems the bears pilfer around these ridge tops, and use the 'spines' to travel to the next 'pilfering' area.
These trails can be 100 yards long, or 1000, but the trails will be packed down, not 'crunched' up like deer trails, and wide....and, most likely, it will meander by every mature white oak along the way.
One more thing.....
If you do decide to hunt in the Morning....and you have a REALLY hot spot....don't go 'into' it while its still dark. Lay back a little distance till dawn, and ease in there.....that way you wont blow em out...and you will have the added thrill of an early morning stalk.
Be ready to not only see bears, but deer and hogs as well. When bear hunting, I've seen more bears and hogs than deer in the GA mountains. And don't let anyone kid you, there are 200 pound plus hogs roaming the mountains.
Post by: RayMO on February 15, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
RayMO
Post by: gobbler10ga on February 15, 2007, 03:48:00 PM
Post by: randy grider on February 15, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: Robert Honaker on February 15, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on February 20, 2007, 06:41:00 PM
Most of the time its hot.......but have worn a polar tech on opening day once. Bugs aren't really too bad, but the thermacell should be in your back...if the skeeters aint bad, the no-seeums might be.
Randy,
Chatsworth GA........or Dalton GA if Chatsworth aint on the map. :D
Robert,
Sure its open......c'mon down!
Post by: Robert Honaker on February 20, 2007, 08:16:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on February 21, 2007, 07:56:00 AM
Anyone going Saturday?
Post by: JC on February 21, 2007, 10:03:00 AM
Looks like my next hunt will have to wait...thank God it's just 2 more weeks till Texas Sweat :readit:
Post by: nanook712 on February 21, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: gobbler10ga on February 21, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: pine nut on February 23, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 08, 2007, 08:32:00 AM
I'm fixing to break out my zoom binos and check from my driveway...but I don't know if I'll be able to see for sure.
If there was a frost this AM.....there will be no reason to have the camp on top this year....there wont be any acorn up there, and everyone will have to drive low.....so we'll pic a lower elevation camp.
Post by: The Gray Fox on April 13, 2007, 09:44:00 PM
Post by: paleFace on April 13, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: OconeeDan on April 14, 2007, 08:02:00 AM
If you can make it, the more the merrier!
This photo is Terry and his Taj-ma-hut (Tent-ma-hal?), at lunchtime. It was almost "flashlight dark" shortly after this photo. Dang clouds.
Dan
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/OconeeDan/2006_0923Image0012.jpg)
Post by: paleFace on April 14, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: keith brimmer on April 15, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 16, 2007, 10:04:00 AM
Yeah.....I heard we all got a heavy frost...but the magic question now is......where was the 'bloom line' at the time of said frost?
If the top haddn't bloomed, there will be more acorns up there than low.....we got plenty of time to find out, just curious.
Post by: keith brimmer on April 16, 2007, 10:19:00 AM
Post by: Terry Green on April 16, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
Yep....its camping.....your choice of shelter or not.....best if you had something to keep the bugs off of ya at night.
Post by: gobbler10ga on April 16, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: keith brimmer on April 16, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 16, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
I hunt mostly the west side......and the north.
Nah, that hunt was in south GA.
Keep in touch, and we'll get together sometime.
Post by: PigStikker on April 16, 2007, 10:20:00 PM
Matt
Post by: Terry Green on April 17, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
I'll get this all figured out on 'where' camp will be. We'll have the hunt regardless of where camp is, and anyone interested is welcome to come.
If we camp at Horse Shoe Bend......we can flat out cover a lot of ground...some in the Wilderness, and some on the management area.
Gotta get Neil and Dan scouting early.....they'll figure out about the top sure enough based on what they saw last year.......I'm pretty sure they are gonna be there.
Post by: joel smith on April 17, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: OconeeDan on April 18, 2007, 07:05:00 AM
Last year, several guys including Tim F. and Joel didn't make it because they were helping at a kids shoot. A nobel reason to miss it. But I hope those guys holding that shoot change their date this year.
Dan
Post by: keith brimmer on April 18, 2007, 07:57:00 AM
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Post by: OconeeDan on April 19, 2007, 08:08:00 AM
Dan
Post by: Jason in Bama on July 30, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: JC on July 30, 2007, 03:59:00 PM