Alright guys, I am starting to get the bug..
I have been a long time recurve shooter, shot a thunderchild for a short time, and now really like my TT Stickflinger. Recently though, I have really been eyeing the D or "Hill" style one piece bows...
Something about the simplicity of it!
In particular, I am leaning towards the 62" Toelke Super D after all that I have read on them. I draw 27" and am usually used to something shorter than this so I think this would be the ticket, especially being that I primarily hunt from a treestand.
I also want to get back to making wooden arrows again as it has been about 10 years since I have made any, so I may be asking some of you about that as well!
I would love to hear from all of you that have been down this path from a bowhunting perspective, as well gather some more information on the Super D. And as always I would love to see some pictures!! Lets see some Super D's with woodys!
I got the bug last yeat and rnded up with a 66". After shooting that i wouldnt go shorter do smooth! And i only have 26 inch draw. Mines 55@28. Love it
I draw 29" and own both 64" and 66" Super Ds. Both lengths for me are very smooth-drawing. I would talk to Dan about bow length for you, he will know far better than anyone. The Super D is more than smooth, it is very quick and "quieter than quiet" with near zero hand shock. Dan flawlessly crafts a beautiful bow from beautiful woods. I like mine better than any bow I've ever shot.
Thanks Guys!
keep it coming and lets see some of these.
Another option you might consider is a Northern Mist Baraga. Similar characteristics to Super D but a bit smoother and faster with a heavier arrow. Just a thought.
Thanks Vesty,
I have been looking at the Baraga as well, however i think i will like the smaller/slimmer grip on the Toelke.
I just got a new to me Super "D". It's the second one I have had and this one is a 2 piece. Nice bows and fit and finish in excellent. The Baraga was mentioned also.......another fine bow. Mine has what Steve calls the RW grip and it very comfortable, not as big as you would think. Grip size on both bows is very close.
Thanks Ron, do you have any pictures of yours?
I had a very nice Super-D, 40#@ 28 and 64 inches. Sold it as I moved up in weight, but it was a joy to shoot. Shucks, I think I sold it to Ron.
I had one I target shot woth. I love the grip on them.
I'll try to get a photo on here.......Yea, I bought the 40# from GreyGoose and then like a fool sold it.
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That's a Beauty!
Thank's Ken for posting the photo. Yep, she is pretty nice, 66" 2 pc T/D, about 47# @ 29", pretty smooth and not real fussy with spine. I can take it apart and slide it into my quiver...lol.
That is a nice one Ron! Glad you were able to get some arrows through it.
Catlin. No pics of my Baraga but Steve will give you a handle and grip according to your desires. Mine is perfect. When I pick it up, it settles into my hand if that makes sense.
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:biglaugh: I just sold that to Ron! Yup let the bug bite! They are great great bows!
I will definitely look at Northern Mist, but for whatever reason have my heart set on a Toelke!
I just love the slim lines.. and have heard nothing but great things on how quite and dead in the had they are for a D bow, but am sure the Baraga shoots well too.
If you are looking for something smooth and want to stick to that 62" length, the Robertson overdrive longbows function about the same as his regular longbows and bend to a 'D', but with more speed. There are a couple of nice ones on his bows in stock list. He offers a try before you buy. I am really glad that there are no left handers in the over drive model on his in stock list, I know what happens when 'try before I buy'. Although that 62" Pierce Point standard model is a great and deadly bow, explaining to the wife that there was no way in hell that I was going to send that bow back was difficult. I am afraid if I got my hands on one that shot as fast as a fast recurve and as stable as a mild r/d, it would never leave.
However, with the Toelke at your draw and with the standard Robertson at your draw, you may prefer the 64". I draw under 27" with mine, actually 26" left hand and 26&1/4" right hand so the 62" for the regular models work nice. Toelkes are great, but another to consider is the Mohawk.
To say that I love my Super D would be a huge understatement. I have a short draw, about 26" and the 62" is a great fit for me whether I'm in a tree or on the ground. You can talk to Dan, but a 62"er will not stack at your draw.
The first Super D I had was from Jim Wright. He dropped it off one morning (said to shoot it a few days and send the money later if I wanted it) along with 3 wooden arrows that he said might shoot well through it. Long story short is I went to the local archery range for lunch and broke 2 of the three arrows within 15 minutes at 20 yards. Needless to say I told him the money was on the way. It was a little light at my draw, so I ordered one to my specs a couple of weeks later and was planning to use Jim's bow as a 3-d bow and backup.
As I remember, Jim called a few weeks later with a case of "sellers" remorse and I sent the bow back to him. I will never get rid of my current Super D bow, but I sure am eyeing a two piece as a backup.
Fair price, short turnaround and you will not find a better person to deal with.
BTW, all Toelkes I have shot love heavy arrows, especially wooden ones!
Pavan, I have not heard for the overdrive but will most certainly look into it as I do Love a Robertson recurve.
Awbowman thank you for some reassurance, but would love to see your bow!
Thanks for the info guys! Let's keep it coming and maybe more super d experiences or harvest pics??
He has a beautiful 66" on his website right now that I have been drooling over. It is too heavy, though. 57@28
Oh boy! One of my favorite bows which I shoot daily. Dan and Jared reworked the limb profile last may and it has slightly more setback than the previous version (which is still very good and a daily shooter of mine). His limbs are 1" wide at the fades. The bow is so light and when there is no quiver on it, balances perfectly in the hand. It almost feels like it isn't there, the balance is so good. This is a seriously good bow and I'm sure you will enjoy it. This is the bow that really sings to my soul. Taken two deer with them also.
I draw near 30 and shoot his 66". Hoping someday they get a 68" model into production.
I have two McBroom Hill style bows and there are super bows.
Thanks guys.
If he had a LH 62" #55 on there right now I would probably be sleeping in the guest room for a while.
I know these bows are very light and I am used to a lot of mass weight, so I will without a doubt have a great northern strapped on there. I will just have to figure out what wood choices to go with!
I figure if I am going to be shooting a D bow I have to be shooting woodies right?! Its been so long since I have made any though. Shooting 55#@27" with a 29" 175ish grain points, what surewood spine would you all order first?
Here you go TradBrew, but I warn you, the pictures do not do this bow justice. Cocobolo riser, bamboo/yew cores and the finest pieces of yew you can ever see. Darkening with age. That's alligator on the grip. Wanted something from Louisiana
I use a two blade, two arrow strap on quiver. Keeps everything super light
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A little look at the belly
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Tips are Bighorn Sheep from Montana
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Here is a better picture of alligator grip. I think I love the Super D so much because of the slender grip
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Another picture of the Yew and tip
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Makes for a sweet little package
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Wow that's a beauty!
Did you make the gator skin grip your self??
No I didn't TradBrew. I sent an alligator hide to Dan and he used it for the grip.
Nice! that's a great touch!
With a 'D' shaped r/d, you want to retain that lightness. You may find that emulating Howard Hill with the slightly broken elbow, keeping the bow arm shoulder in line with the target, will work very nicely. The real advantage of a fast pointing agile bow, is having the ability to take quicker and more varied shots with confident accuracy. I have seen people get into r/d bows that have shot with straight long draw form, like they did with their compounds and recurves at first. A bit down the longbow road, their form naturally modified itself into something a little less statuesque and more natural with a shorter draw. Watch the you tubes of John Schulz, that style works great with r/d bows.
Thanks Paven! Certainly good advice. I m excited!
More Super D pics?
Any advice on the woods arrows??
Damn, now i want one again
Easy Jeff!
I only shoot carbons with my Super D and it likes a 6 3/4 brace height. He cuts them to darn near center which is nice
Guess I'll see what all the fuss is about Tuesday. Pretty sure this is going to cost me.
Headed to Dan's? They should be in Libby this weekend for the big 3D shoot.
I got a super D last month. Love it. 66' 50#@28, My draw length is 26.5. Super smooth, Super quiet, fast enough. The most important thing is easy to hit the target. I don't know why, but shoot it better than my other bows.
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I got a super D last month. Love it. 66' 50#@28, My draw length is 26.5. Super smooth, Super quiet, fast enough. The most important thing is easy to hit the target. I don't know why, but shoot it better than my other bows.
Any particular reason for a 66" at your draw length?
stability?
I'm curious because we are close in draw, but just don't know that I could swing a bow that long from a hunting perspective.
Thanks for all the comments guys. Keep it coming.
TradBrew. Believe me, the 62" will not stack on you. If I remember right, Dan actually modified the riser length on my Super D a little for my short draw (made it a tad longer to get more load in the limbs) to get more performance. I have been told mine starts to stack around 28".
Dan does like longer bows though.
Todd,
Yes, they'll be in Libby. Was going to go but have grandson's soccer today, plus have a gorgeous dark chocolate bear I'am working on. Had him at 40' last night but no shot.
Have to pick up a bow so might as well try out the super D. Nothing but good reviews.
I am completely sold on Toelke bows. I currently shoot a 62" whip 52# @ 28" and LOVE it ! My next purchase will be a 64" super D. After that, it will be a 60" chinook recurve and my stable will be complete. Who knows...after that it might be the 64" super static recurve.
...just sayin !
I'm the biggest Toelke fan there is but I didn't love the super D. Of course I'm not real crazy about any D bow. The Mohawk is the only D bow that I kept around for any amount of time.
Here is the new version Super D 66" drawn to 30".
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Here is the old version left and new version right. The new has slightly more setback. (http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii498/tzolkosky/libby%20montana%203d%20shoot/IMG_20150502_093710386_zpsmh6cbh6o.jpg)
Wall of Toelkes
To this day, my favorite is that older version hanging on my wall. The grip is just right, long and narrow. I have a new one that is gorgeous and shoots a tad smoother than this one but I butchered it up pretty good trying to sand/file the grip smaller and longer so it's in the closet.
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This is the grip on my older. Plus the riser is just phenomenal!!! I never get over the beauty of this Kingwood.
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Took this guy last year with my Super D.
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This guy a couple years earlier with a different Super D.
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NICE Todd Z......... :thumbsup:
Nice!Thanks Todd!
I just got back from a Fantastic Trad 3D shoot put on by the Libby archery club. One of the fellas that I shot with today was carrying a bow that i really liked the looks of. It was one of these Super Ds. I got to shoot it at the end. It was smooth, Quick, and the arrows went where I was looking. I really liked the grip. :thumbsup:
from my few shots.