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Title: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: aim small...release on April 12, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
Just wondering if anyone uses 100gr bh I see most people using heavy bh but the 100-125angle are easy to come by in store. I need 200 up front but cant get any 75gr inserts right now just 100. I was looking at Muzzy phantom 100gr head. Thanks for any info.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: mark land on April 12, 2016, 12:57:00 PM
Yep everyday and have for a few years now after I had to drop 25grs of tip weight for a faster bow to spine my arrows correctly.  Currently shooting the Phantom 100, Phantom SC and MX-4 heads off my Hoyt Buffalo.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: Bladepeek on April 12, 2016, 02:03:00 PM
Brandon, I realize this is not an answer to your original post, but personally I'd rather have the larger, heavier point. Lost Nation gives a $1 rebate on postage for Michigan shipments and they ship fast. Not as nice as being able to walk into the local Trad Shop (they folded last year) but still a good, local source.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: Buckeye1977 on April 12, 2016, 02:12:00 PM
I'm gonna try 100 grain brass inserts with muzzy 3 blade 100's for turkey this year. They seem to shoot really well out of my recurve.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: tracker12 on April 12, 2016, 02:30:00 PM
I use a 31" Easton FMJ with 75 grain brass insert and 125 grain head.  I hunt with a bow at around #45 and to keep my arrow around 500 grains I need a light head.  When I hunted with a light weight carbon I used heavier heads.  Both worked well I just prefer the FMJ.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: Sirius Black on April 12, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
I haven't tried broadheads yet, but I'm shooting some arrows with a 100gr insert/100gr point, they tune just fine.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: FAV 52 on April 12, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
I have been shooting Easton Tribute 2016's 100gr insert but 125gr points works for me;haven't had any complaints from the customers I've taken .
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: olddogrib on April 12, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
I'm sure folks do and it will be fine in the right set-up, but for what it's worth, IMHO it will not be equivalent to a 200 gr. head with a standard aluminum insert.  My experience is that long heavy inserts internally stiffen the shaft like a footing...your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: WESTBROOK on April 12, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
I'd rather just use a standard insert and a big stout 185-200g BH
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: Basinboy on April 12, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
I'm shooting 100gr brass inserts with 150gr Magnus stingers. I've killed big hogs and elk with no issues
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: ThePushArchery on April 13, 2016, 12:23:00 PM
I would agree. Lighter heads with brass insert combinations aren't as strong structurally than a heavier head and standard insert.

The failure modes of a light head impede penetration upon impact of bone on the shots that may be off target a bit. (curled tip, bend aluminum ferrules, bent or chipped blade edges)

The construction of a heavier head by nature to become heavier naturally mitigates some of those failure modes seen in the lighter broadheads. (Full steel ferrules / Thicker blade widths)

With the traditional market where it is today with the endless options for heavier heads, I don't see a need to use a sub-150 gn broadhead if I am targeting 200 - 300 grains up front. (VPA, Simmons, Tuffhead, etc etc are some of the highest quality heads on the market and tailor their offerings to heavy, bomb-proof, traditional heads)

If I were to have my eye on a lighter head that really tickled my fancy, I'd buy the glue-on version and mount it to a 100gn steel ferrule, and run it with a standard insert rather than buy the screw-in version that most likely would come on an aluminum ferrule. At least I am mitigating one failure mode (ferrule integrity).

My $0.02
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: old_goat2 on April 13, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
All the time, and that's a setup I really like for practicing because 100gr field tips don't bend as easy as 200gr field tips and are less expensive.
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: WESTBROOK on April 14, 2016, 12:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
All the time, and that's a setup I really like for practicing because 100gr field tips don't bend as easy as 200gr field tips and are less expensive.
What the heck are you shooting at?
Title: Re: Anyone use 100gr bh and 100gr insert/
Post by: KyRidgeRunner on April 14, 2016, 09:30:00 PM
I do.  I shoot 200-225 grains up front.  So 1/2 of my arrows have 100 grain inserts the other half have regular.  I use the half with 100 grain inserts when I want to use a bullhead, a thunder head, judo point, stinger, etc.  I use the ones with regular insert when I want to run a heavy head up front I.e. Magnus 1 with steel screw in adaptor or a heavy one piece 3 blade.