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Title: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 11:05:00 AM
I want to buy this material for myself .
But is this material safe for trad bow ?


  http://www.bowhunterssuperstore.com/force-crossbow-string-spool-black-p-1869547.html  


You can see on this link that is for cross bow ! I don't want to my bow explode after year or two !

Same material on 3rivees
 http://www.3riversarchery.com/bcy-dynaflight-10-bow-string-material---d10-string-material.html  

Safe or not ?
Thanks to all
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 11:11:00 AM
Currently i using Rhino material and my friend warned me that he also using Rhino but for CO . And maybe is not safe for trad !
I love my bow and .....
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: on March 27, 2016, 11:11:00 AM
As far as I know, the Force 10 is the exact same material as the old D10. It is fine for trad bows, but you do not need anywhere near 26-28 strands, like it says in that link (that many strands would be for a xbow, since that is what the material is marketed for now)! I have used D10 on my trad bows in the past, and it worked just fine.

Also, I don't see any reason the Rhino would not work fine either, as long as the string is constructed properly.

Maybey LBR will chime in. He seems to be the most knowledgable guy around when it comes to string material compodition.

Bisch
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 11:21:00 AM
Thanks Bisch
We will wait for him
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Biathlonman on March 27, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
D10 is what Pierre at SBD strings uses.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: meatCKR on March 27, 2016, 11:56:00 AM
Josh with OliverStacy uses it as well.  Some of the best strings he has made for me in the past were 12 strand D10 padded to 14 in the loops.  Shoots great and no issues with the bows I have it on - going on 2 years now.

Steve
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Alexander Traditional on March 27, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by meatCKR:
Josh with OliverStacy uses it as well.  Some of the best strings he has made for me in the past were 12 strand D10 padded to 14 in the loops.  Shoots great and no issues with the bows I have it on - going on 2 years now.

Steve
He is making mine with 12 strands and he puts 16 in the loops. I like it better than D-97. I had a couple of new bows that had Rhino strings,and they are really good as well.

You need to know if your tips are made for fast flight material,and I would think you could use which ever one you want.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 12:24:00 PM
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Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Bob Abeln on March 27, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
Milan,
you should have no problem with FF on those beefed up tips. D10 is very good string material. 12 strands should be plenty strong.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 27, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
If the bow is rated for high performance ("fast flight") strings, it will be fine.  Force 10 is the same material, just a different label.  It's 100% Dyneema.  For a 100% Dyneema material, I prefer 8125G, 8190 Universal, or 8190F.  My personal favorite is BCY-X.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: frank bullitt on March 27, 2016, 03:10:00 PM
Like D-10, now Force 10, Rhino use to be Ultra Cam.

All good material!
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Guys thank you all

God bless you
and Happy Easter
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Pierre Lucas on March 27, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Give BCY a call...They will tell you that it is what they recommend for traditional bows.

God bless,
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 03:19:00 PM
Baaah !
I forgot to ask about serving material !!
I love endless skinny string , so which diameter ?

60# bow ...
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 27, 2016, 03:46:00 PM
http://www.bcyfibers.com/Bowstring.php

http://www.bcyfibers.com/Serving.php

I'm not much help on skinny strings.  I've tried them off and on in various materials and on various bows over the last 20 or so years, and I can't find any real advantage to them.  For endless in general, I like BCY's 3D serving or Halo in .014 or .019.

Chad
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: on March 27, 2016, 03:50:00 PM
I like Halo the best. My strings are not "skinny" (14 strand D97) and the .024 size makes my nock fit perfect!

Bisch
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 27, 2016, 03:57:00 PM
Well skinny for my taste is 12 strand ...

D10 material
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 27, 2016, 04:03:00 PM
.014 or .019 Halo will work fine.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Bladepeek on March 28, 2016, 11:31:00 AM
I have used 3 or 4 of the recommended combinations. All worked well for me. I shoot light, mid-40# bows and all shoot well with 8-strand D-10 from SBD, and shoot no worse with the thicker strings from LBR. All are ordered to fit standard GT nocks and all have fit perfectly. I don't think you can go wrong with these string-makers.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 28, 2016, 11:36:00 AM
I know they are good in string making . But is easy for me to make myself . Maybe to try skinny ,how many strands is recommended for 60# ?
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 28, 2016, 11:39:00 AM
12 strands will work fine.  With fewer strands you will get more stretch and creep, and less durability.

Working with D-10 is like working with Dynaflight '97.  The difference in SK75 Dyneema and SK78 Dyneema is minute.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: BowHunterGA on March 28, 2016, 12:16:00 PM
I use D10 for some customers that want "skinny strings" and they have been very happy with the strings made from D10. So long as the bow is approved for fast flight there shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 29, 2016, 06:22:00 PM
Guys !!
Me again ,  :)

How many strings ( endless) i can make from 1/4 Lb
12 strands string .....approximately ....

Thanks for all answers !
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 29, 2016, 06:29:00 PM
20, give or take.  I base this on my getting 80 longbow strings from a pound of Dynaflight '97 (12 strand).
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 29, 2016, 06:33:00 PM
Thanks a lot
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: Wengerd Bowyer on March 31, 2016, 12:38:00 AM
For the past 6ish years I have been shooting 10 strand, d 10, endless strings off my recurves and hybrids I pad the loops by serving them twice with nylon serving, I have no idea if that actually does anything but I haven't had any problems so far. I serve the nock area with Diamondback. The only reason I got into endless strings was because they looked easier to make and I'm limited on time.  As far as string creep goes when I put a new string on a bow the brace height will drop and 8th or so in the first day or so after that I've shot one string for 2 years plus and the brace height never moves. This is off of bows in the 55Ib range.
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: bowfanatik on March 31, 2016, 01:13:00 AM
Ok ,basically i need to make endless string 3/4 bigger than i need ?
Title: Re: D 10 string material
Post by: LBR on March 31, 2016, 08:03:00 AM
Lots of variables to consider, but that would be a good starting point.