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Title: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: BWallace10327 on March 25, 2016, 10:00:00 PM
How long will 12 arrows last YOU?  Please round up to the nearest measurement I've provided and include your most frequently used bow information in the text, including make, length, string material, draw weight and design (longbow or recurve).
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: CRM_95 on March 25, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
I voted over a year now...hopefully they'll last that long since I don't miss the entire target anymore. When I first started shooting back in December I broke or lost at least an arrow or 2 per week!!
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Bvas on March 25, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
Voted over a year.
I don't think I've ever bought more than one dozen in a years time(unless I was trying new setups). I'm not one to save kill arrows. If it's not bent or broke, I'll fix damaged fletching and it goes back in the quiver.
Matter of fact, it's probably been about 4 years since I've had to buy any arrows.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: on March 25, 2016, 10:26:00 PM
Easily over a year.

64" Sarrels Blueridge R/D longbow, 50#@29.5", 14 strand D97 string.

29" Easton Axis FMJ, .500 spine, 75gr brass HIT insert, 3-4" parabolic feathers.

Bisch
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: BWallace10327 on March 25, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
I appreciate the responses already, but please include  make, length, string material, draw weight and design (longbow or recurve).  Thanks again.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: monterey on March 25, 2016, 11:24:00 PM
Hmmmm.  Is this how long the entire dozen lasts?

Right now I'm shooting four different sets.  In the case of two sets, it's actually the remains of them.

So, always over a year, one set is on four years.

All four sets are shot out of four different bows and occasionally out of several others.

So, it's kinda hard to answer the survey but I did go with over one year.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Stump73 on March 25, 2016, 11:31:00 PM
Thunderchild 54" 52@28
20 strand fast flight Flemish string
26 1/2" 1535 gt tradional
50gr insert 250gr point or 250gr 2blade VPA
3x4" feathers
I draw 25"
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: 3arrows on March 26, 2016, 12:32:00 AM
I think poll should be in years not months.Bob Lee longbow and recure utra cam string,
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Wudstix on March 26, 2016, 12:49:00 AM
MOAB 63# @27" and Big River 21st Century 66# @27".  Tapered Ash and tapered Maple are stout and sturdy shafts.  
  :campfire:        :coffee:
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: pinky on March 26, 2016, 04:09:00 AM
I voted for 6 months.  I like to stump shoot in the spring and summer and my dog likes to help me recover the arrows which doesn't always help.

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most of my stumping is with a Wes Wallace "Royal" 64" longbow  50# @ 26" DL 29" and D97 FF string, Or Aspen "Elite" 64" LB 61# @ 29" with D97 string. Both are mild D/R longbows.
Most of my Carbon shafts are footed and they tend to last longer that way.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on March 26, 2016, 05:32:00 AM
Years.  I have dozens Ive never shot yet. Cedars and carbons. And too many bows to mention.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: T-Bowhunter on March 26, 2016, 06:55:00 AM
Big Jim Thunderchild 50@28' draw 28.50' Gold Tips, 500, 30" regular inserts, 175 tips.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on March 26, 2016, 06:57:00 AM
A&H CX 3PC- 66" 45@28" longbow
12 strands D97 w/padded loops
30.5" 35/55 Gold Tip XT Hunters w/145 grain tip w/ (3) 5" right helical parabolic feathers.
My draw length is 27.5
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: slowbowjoe on March 26, 2016, 08:11:00 AM
I chose 6 months, but maybe a year. Hard to say, since I do a lot of stump roving in pretty rough woods, year round.
Shooting my target at home, I break, maybe, one a year, or two. Roving, I'll probably break or lose near a dozen a year; so I entered the 6 months.

Thunderstick Mag, 58", 45@28", hybrid longbow, 8 strand D-97 (I think).
Premium Doug Fir's with judo's.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Gdpolk on March 26, 2016, 08:29:00 AM
Setup is in the signature. Shooting cedars, they lasted between 3-12 weeks depending on how much stumping I did. Aluminum arrows seemed to last me 2-6 months. Then I went to aluminum footed carbons with brass inserts. I've had this batch coming on 2 years now, maybe a bit longer, and I've broken ONE by pulling a shot and driving it through a steel pipe target stand. I could have likely chopped the tip off and rebuilt it but I didn't. I've also lost one arrow from that batch, despite flo pink fletching. For what it's worth I shoot 4-5 days a week.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Sam McMichael on March 26, 2016, 08:44:00 AM
I usually have at least some of them last much longer than a year, but not an entire dozen. Most of my shooting is done in the back yard, and I seldom miss the entire target. It is not quite the same at the 3D course. Its still a celebratory event if I don't lose or break any arrows. But its like Dan Quillian once told me, "Don't fall in love with your arrows, because you ain't gonna have them that long." That is especially true when shooting in the field.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: ESP on March 26, 2016, 08:54:00 AM
I guess I am in the minority again.  3 months.  I like to try tough shots, to see if I can make them.  Most of the time I do not.  Then they are broke or the grass monster has eaten them :}  This is why I do not like to own pretty arrows.  They do not stay pretty a long time.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: katman on March 26, 2016, 08:57:00 AM
Over a year. I don't shoot just one.

Bows most frequently used Das with Dryad acs longbow limbs 64" hybrid, Bigfoot static recurve 60", Heartland hybrid 60", JD Berry duoflex 66" all 50-55#, String material all 18 strand bcy-x. I will shoot them all depending on mood and whats in season.

Interesting you don't want to know shaft information.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: hawkeye n pa on March 26, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
3+ years before the dozen is gone.  Usually ruin one  in the first month. They will be refletched many times. I also stump shoot alot and 3D shoots.  Beamen center shots, 55# Bear T/D DF97 string.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: jackdaw on March 26, 2016, 09:55:00 AM
Brent......thisis a seriously subjective thread..?? I have an arrow or two from 6-7 years ago. And I watched a capable Archer buddy destroy 6 at Pennsylvania's Sawmill event 3 years ago on one course!!! Sooooooo....average life expectancy of a complete dozen to me is 3 days to 7 years..?? Toooo subjective. BTW...we both shoot Ed Holcomb 59' Kodiak repros. Mine 51#..his 49#. SBD skinny strings....bot shooting tapered ash with 3 Rivers brass self attaching points. 5" shield cut Tru-flights.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: BWallace10327 on March 26, 2016, 11:29:00 AM
Subjectivity shouldn't be used a pejorative term. I disagree that this thread is "tooo subjective".  Every time a question is asked to a broad range of people that requires and individual response will yield subjective results by nature and definition.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Hermon on March 26, 2016, 11:41:00 AM
I too have some difficulty understanding this thread.  Stumping arrows don't last as long as broadhead arrows.  3D arrows may last several years on some ranges and may not last the weekend on others.  And how do you intend to relate the type of bow involved?  The factor that probably is most important is the person shooting the arrow out of the bow.  Not trying to be argumentative, just don't understand where you are heading.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: BWallace10327 on March 26, 2016, 11:43:00 AM
My purpose for starting this thread was to gather data to see if there is a correlation between custom bow owners and carefulness.  I recently spoke to someone who make a flat out ridicules comment "I never would buy a used factory bow because people buy factory bows don't take care of their things".  Very ignorant.

The only answers that would have been examined were origin of the bow (factory vs custom) and how long 1 dozen arrows last (a measurement of care of archery equipment).  The other questions were distractions to hide my actual intent and prevent any research bias.

I figured there is not a difference between factory custom bow owners.  I am going to conduct a dependent t-test on IBM SPSS to analyze the data.  Thanks for participating.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Thumper Dunker on March 26, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Ground squirrel arrows maybe four times out broad heads maybe half a year. But I hunt every weekend And a lot of time I go once or twice after work. I go through about a hundred arrows a year.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Michael Arnette on March 26, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
Well, I hunt a lot and I go through them the quickest during hunting season. I normally go through a couple dozen each year with breaks and losses on small and large game and occasional missed target...OK maybe more than occasional   :dunno:
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: monterey on March 26, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
OK, I'm going to respond a second time but relate it to only one set of arrows.  I consider a set done for when it's down to four arrows.

Mine are woodies hand made sometimes from purchased shafts and sometimes from from handmade shafts.  I m on four years and they are still a "set" because there are five left.

Mostly shot in the back yard and quite often small game hunting which always involves some stumping.

Shot mainly from:

44# 66" ASL glass lam, my build
43# 68" ASL glass lam, my build
38# 68" ASL Glass lam, my build
44# 56" vintage DH Cavalier static recurve.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: M60gunner on March 26, 2016, 03:37:00 PM
"Arrows are expendable ammo" at least that is what my philosophy is. I try not to get attached to any. I have made some dozens I sold rather than use because they turned out so well. But I did vote for over a year.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Gordon Jabben on March 26, 2016, 04:16:00 PM
I squirrel hunt   :(   .
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 27, 2016, 07:34:00 AM
wood arrows about one year, Carbon arrows 3-5 years.

The Custom bow or Manufactured bow has absolutely nothing to do with how long my arrows last.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: WVbowhunter on March 27, 2016, 09:05:00 AM
Around a year, PSE Talon 58", 54lbs @31", 14 strand d97 string, easton 2117 with 125 grain heads or gold tip hunter 75/95s full length with 190 grain heads. Either one last about the same. Lose more than I break.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Pryor on March 27, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
Started Trad last year with a Montana Long bow, and a 12 2018 aluminum shafts.  Still had 12 until rabbit season started.  Shooting through sage brush, misses, and rocks claimed 7.  Still have 5 left.  Switched to Gold Tip Trads with footing.  Still have 12, but rabbit season is 6 months away.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Pryor on March 27, 2016, 10:03:00 AM
Side note.  My wife is always giving me crap about buying more archery stuff (especially arrows).  Took her out shooting the 9 MM and M-14, she could not believe the price of ammo.  One of the reasons I have changed into more archery based hunting.  Arrows are cheap in comparison.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: on March 27, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BWallace10327:
My purpose for starting this thread was to gather data to see if there is a correlation between custom bow owners and carefulness.  I recently spoke to someone who make a flat out ridicules comment "I never would buy a used factory bow because people buy factory bows don't take care of their things".  Very ignorant.

The only answers that would have been examined were origin of the bow (factory vs custom) and how long 1 dozen arrows last (a measurement of care of archery equipment).  The other questions were distractions to hide my actual intent and prevent any research bias.

I figured there is not a difference between factory custom bow owners.  I am going to conduct a dependent t-test on IBM SPSS to analyze the data.  Thanks for participating.
I would think how long a particular shooters arrows last is directly related to how well said shooter can shoot, and not a whole lot more!

And btw, I do agree that the other guys statement about factory bow owners is completely rediculous!

Bisch
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on March 27, 2016, 11:26:00 AM
4-6 year's.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: threeunder on March 27, 2016, 12:06:00 PM
I started shooting trad in 2006.  Bought a dozen CE Heritage 150's.  I've bought many, many more arrows since then, but I still have more than half of those original ones.
Carbon is unbelievably durable.  Its one of the things that draws me most to it for arrows.
I still shoot aluminum in my K-Mag just because...LOL
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: monterey on March 27, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
QuoteI would think how long a particular shooters arrows last is directly related to how well said shooter can shoot, and not a whole lot more!
Another big element is how often does the archer shoot?

A dozen of anything can last a very long time if they are never hunted with and not shot very often.  Indoor shooter or outdoor shooter?

One day of bunny hunting in snow covered sagebrush can cost me five or six arroes easily
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: CoachBGriff on March 27, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
I like to shoot at stumps and squirrels enough that it seems like once-a-year I'm in need of more arrows.

That said, this dozen has been lasting pretty well.  I've lost one inside the hay bale I use for a target, but I'll recover it soon!
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Terry Lightle on March 27, 2016, 08:41:00 PM
6 months here,wood and stumps.56# Wild Horse Creek Kestrel with Astro string.550 grain Surewood
Terry
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 28, 2016, 07:00:00 AM
Also, the largest factor for me is my friends Breaking my arrows in the targets.

I lose 3 or 4 arrows every year because my friends shoot my arrows in half.  I need to aim for a different spot on the 3D targets.  Of course I return the favor from time to time.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 28, 2016, 09:41:00 AM
I'll end up with most of a dozen after a year. I don't shoot into hard things (on purpose).

All my bows are 50@28
Hunting arrows in the .500 spine and I use .600's for 3-D spring and summer.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Jakeemt on March 28, 2016, 11:39:00 AM
Over a year. Hoyt spectra warf. 64 inches 60@29. 10 strand d97 Easton 2216 30 inches in length with 125 up front.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: elkken on March 28, 2016, 11:45:00 AM
I shoot Axis trads and FMJ's 500's with 100 grain brass up front... they last a long long time if I don't lose them stump shooting. I put aluminum footings on my stump arrows and they are almost indestructible. Most of my bows are in the 46-49# range these days.

In my woody days they would last about a season    :archer2:  of 3D, stumping and hunting
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Bowwild on March 28, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
I generally lose 1-3 arrows in a  year. Another 1-2 may be destroyed by animals I've shot.

I shoot Axis Trad 500's with varying brass insert weights. I also shoot Easton Injection FMJ, and Easton FMJ.

My hunting bows are all between 43-49#s at my draw length.

All my bows except on Bear A-Mag (with custom limbs) are customs.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: sticks&stringz on March 29, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
i shoot a carsage 45lbs @28 w/ 12 strand b55 Flemish padded to 16 strands.30" goldtip nugent 500s with a acculite insert and 50 gr weight with 125 gr points 4 fletch 3 inch gateway whites. i voted 6 months because i shoot about 500-600 arrows a week and group from 8 yards to 30 and slap alot of arrows together, but most of my breaks are from my arrows going through targets and into rocks or the concrete wall behind my target.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: dbd870 on March 29, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
Over a year. Carbons and a recurve( now, aluminums before that they were still over a year). Don't stump but I do 3D.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Caddo on March 30, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
Expected, 1 shot. Anything more than that is gravy! Too many variables to accurately calculate.
If I get a pass through, multiple shots.
If I get a pass through and hit a rock, not so much.
If I just shoot foam targets, multiple shots.
if I miss foam targets, not so much.

LD
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Boomerang on March 30, 2016, 12:50:00 PM
I stump shoot quite a bit and I foot the shafts. I use Gold Tip trads, VPA VaporRiser with SKY Limbs.
Title: Re: The Expected Lifespan of 1 Dozen Arrows
Post by: Babbling Bob on April 01, 2016, 07:04:00 AM
Half a year if I shoot poorly at some of those tougher 3-D targets at the edge of lakes or surrounded by boulders.  'Bout a year for killing paper plates out back.

Started this year out with 18 new'uns. Hoping to always have a dozen around. Stuck a $10 shaft in the shallow root of a small tropical tree several week ago and broke it being in a hurry, but seventeen more are ready.