I am curious as to how many of you guys have ever had a pass through that your arrow had NO sign of blood on it?
Now, to the story.
Saturday, i went to some family land that usually has some pigs on it. I stalked up on a pack of 6 of them. The pigs knew something was up, but didn't know what I was, as I would never move while they were looking. I took a shot and upon release, the pig I was shooting at lunged forward making my arrow stick her in the paunch(guts). When I shot, they ran about 50 yards and just stood there. I could tell the big sow I shot was not feeling very well. They took off walking, so i followed. After following the pack, from a distance, for 3/4 of a mile. We knew she was hit(blood on her side). After 3/4 of a mile, I lost sight of her.
After searching, i went back to look for my arrow. After finding it, it literally had NOTHING on it. and I do mean literally NOTHING!!!
Later that day, my buddy and I got up on a bedded pack and he shot one. We both watched the arrow impact back and immediately saw, what we thought to be, his red fletchings hanging out, but it turned out it was blood from the cut. When we went back and found his arrow, it also had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on the arrow. But his pig only ran 70 yards. My mind was blown.
Anyone else ever had this happen?
Both of us were shooting QUALITY heads that were both shaving sharp. (no names will be mentioned, as i know the mistake was on my end).
A gut shot on a pig will often have no blood but will have an odor. A shot "back" on a pig is not good and will often end in no pork.
What did his arrow hit that killed the pig in 70 yds?
Mike
Mike,
Honestly, we have no clue. I will post a pic of the hit and let you be the judge.
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this was a broadside shot, NOT QUARTERING AWAY.
My shot might have been 4 inches farther back than this.
I will also post for photo's from the hunt. It was a fun day to be in the woods.
You can just make out one of the pigs through the thickness. There were about 6 with it. The story above was about this hog, so i'll skip that part.
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After I caught up to my buddy, we were walking along, tired from walking through all the mush. I look to my right and see this:
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The coon was in bad shape. I wanted to make sure he wasn't caught in a foot trap or something like that, so I tossed a stick towards him. when it hit the ground I found out he was very much alive, but wasn't well.
Not 50 yards later we were standing there admiring creation. It was an absolutely beautiful day. Temps in the 50's, wind howling out of the north, a great day to just take a nap in the woods. I look to my left and see something that looks out of place.
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i tell my buddy to check it out with his bino's and sure enough, it was "two hogs" bedded down.
We began our approach. We soon learn there are way more than 2 hogs. When we get up to about 15 yards from this sleepy jokers, I could see there were actually about 6 hogs there.
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I glance to my right and see this.
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another piece of the pack that wanted to cuddle else where.
Seeing as I had already taken a shot at a pig that day, I tell my buddy to shoot first at this bunch, then i'd try to pick something off when they got up. He was closer to this pack than I was. He picked out the large one, draw back, released and the arrow sailed over all of them. The pigs heard the arrow go by and sat up. I quickly hit anchor and followed suit. Shot right over the sow. We were both laughing hard at this time. We have almost 20 pigs within 15 yards and walk away with nothing.
One of my biggest rules to hunting pigs is DO NOT MOVE WHEN THE PIGS ARE WATCHING. They run close to 40 yards and turn around to search for something that made that noise. We both sat still.
We began to search for our arrows and we look up, they are coming towards us. We both get ready and my buddy Steve managed to stick the sow.
(story above).
We managed to get up on a bunch of mid sized pigs that busted us and my buddy decided to take a running shot. He got some pretty good penetration...
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on the tree.. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
It was such a fun time being in the woods. If I could stalk deer like I can hogs, I'd never hunt from a stand again.
God Bless,
Daniel
Looking at that pig your buddy got, I would think he got a kidney. If it would have been a big artery, there would have been blood on the arrow. Like Mike said, there should have been an odor on the arrow. I have had several critters where the arrow went through the paunch but did not cut a single piece of gut (and my broadheads are also quality heads that are very sharp), so it is possible that might be what happened.
The javi I shot 2 days ago was quartering to me. The entrance was at the front shoulder. the exit was at the opposite rear leg (complete passthru), with a big wad of guts hanging out the hole. There was not a one piece of gut cut in that animal. I was sooooooooo glad when I went to gut it not to find a huge mess in there.
Congrats to your buddy on his pig!
Bisch
I shot a small pig once that I thought I had missed. When I picked up my arrow it was slick, like oil, but had no real "blood" on it. I examined the fletching and I could make out a very feint pinkish hue to the hen fletch. Best I can figure is I had hit the pig in a fatty area and totally missed any real bloody tissue. My son and I followed in the direction they all took off it, but with no blood it was pointless after a few hundred meters. He likely recovered from the wound, which is either unfortunate or fortunate depending on your take of pigs. I know I didn't hit any stomach area, I thought the shot looked a little high, which is why I took it for a miss at first. Perhaps I slipped it in the upper back skin? Pigs are funny critters.
Additionally, and this may sound funny, but smell your arrow. Mine had a fatty, greasy scent to it. Presumably from the fat.
I smelt it several times. I could not smell anything at all. i have never had that happen to me before.
A smelt is a fish........
Unless you live in the Bayou!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bisch
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
A smelt is a fish........
Unless you live in the Bayou!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bisch
I do live in a bayou, Bisch!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by DanielB89:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
A smelt is a fish........
Unless you live in the Bayou!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bisch
I do live in a bayou, Bisch!!! [/b]
That was exactly my point, Daniel!!!
Talking to you and Basinboy is an experience!!!
Bisch
Now thats funny!
could it be possible that when the arrow exited through thick hide/fat, the fat/hide "squeegeed" the arrow clean?
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
QuoteOriginally posted by DanielB89:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
A smelt is a fish........
Unless you live in the Bayou!!!
Bisch
I do live in a bayou, Bisch!!! [/b]
That was exactly my point, Daniel!!!
Talking to you and Basinboy is an experience!!!
Bisch [/b]
You better watch it, or next time we see you on a 3D course, we wont be very nice. :readit: :readit: :nono: :nono:
Speaking from experience, a shot right in front of the rear shoulder, or in the guacamole, ain't good.
Strange things happen sometimes when shooting arrows through critters. He definitely hit something very vascular to put the pig down that quickly that far back. I kind of lean toward the "squegee affect" as well.
I'm not sure, but if it was a squeegee affect, it fit completely around my broadhead, shaft, feathers, wraps, nock, AND inside of nock PERFECTLY!
its crazy!
I'll try to find out if it can happen again this next weekend! :)
Daniel shot this deer a little far back and gut pluged
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Don't know what happened to my rest of my post but I wanted to say it happens we don't like it but it happens and if you do everything you can don't beat yourself over it.Sunny found her very far from my stand.
Kip, that makes me want a tracking dog even more. though i'm not sure it would have helped on this one.
Well you have a main artery, a major vein and the kidney right where that shot hit so it looks like you must have nicked one of them.
never ever heard oh a 'rear shoulder'...but that looks like a kidney hit to me
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
never ever heard oh a 'rear shoulder'...but that looks like a kidney hit to me
Was thinking the same thing...
I was being a bit sarcastic. It had to do with one of those "the shot looked good" situations.
Yes I have on a gut shot doe after my arrow hit an obstruction, I would have not known I hit her except that I plainly saw the arrow pass through.
Wait, I used to catch smelt in Canada by the netfulls every spring run. Are they down south too?
QuoteOriginally posted by BWD:
I was being a bit sarcastic. It had to do with one of those "the shot looked good" situations.
I knew this was a bad shot.. but I didn't expect my arrow to be clean, or her to go quite that far..
QuoteOriginally posted by Keith Zimmerman:
Wait, I used to catch smelt in Canada by the netfulls every spring run. Are they down south too?
oh yes.. but you catch these with your nose.
QuoteOriginally posted by DanielB89:
[/qb]
I knew this was a bad shot.. but I didn't expect my arrow to be clean, or her to go quite that far.. [/QB][/QUOTE]
I know what you mean. This past season, right before dark, I hit a doe, probably a little low, and the front third of my arrow was bloody but the back two thirds was clean. Worked a fairly long blood trail that led to nothing.
Shot a deer no blood on the shaft, would have thought I had missed if I wouldn't have seen him wobble and go down.
"Smelt" ....."rear shoulder, or in the guacamole"
Sounds like we got a food thing going on here. :biglaugh:
Not to derail the topic, but I've spoken with Daniel several times in person and on the phone...speaks plain English to me...
QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
Not to derail the topic, but I've spoken with Daniel several times in person and on the phone...speaks plain English to me...
When he talks on the phone, it goes thru his Cajun to English translator!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bisch
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
Not to derail the topic, but I've spoken with Daniel several times in person and on the phone...speaks plain English to me...
When he talks on the phone, it goes thru his Cajun to English translator!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bisch [/b]
those jokers ain't cheap either Bisch!
smelt or not you were on the hogs and Bisch was not. So he could of smelt real bad and it made no difeerance.