So my arrow set up that I've been using so far has been Hi Plains Hunter 500's with 125 grain tips. The arrows come from the factory at 30'', which is fine for my DL, and I'm shooting a 45 lb bow. It shoots Montec G5's just like my field tips.
I was talking to a guy today that pointed out 2 things I'm not too sure about. He said that my arrows may be a little light, and I might need to add inserts. Then he also said I might look at switching to 2 blade heads vs 3 blade. I hate to switch because this setup shoots so good, but if I need to I guess I will.
I'll be hunting deer, and I'm pretty sure my shots will be limited to 15 yards or less this year. I may shoot the occasional hog too if one wanders by but primarily deer, nothing bigger.
I'm new to traditional archery but I've bow hunted a long time and killed a good many deer. I know not to push the limits and I won't take shots that aren't good. I really felt like I'd be ok.
Are your arrows 10 grains per pound? I am sure that if your arrows are tuned good and flying great, you don't have anything to worry about.
8-12 grains per pound is what I strive for.
a quick look and your arrows and your at 8.2 grains per pound. lower end but I think that's still good if your shooting accurate.
Are these arrows making your bow loud ? Weight tubes (3gr / inch) would add maybe 87 grains which would bring you up to ~ 450 gr arrows. This might quiet the bow ( if needed) and give just a bit more weight. I wouldn't worry about your broadhead choice. Keep em sharp. or, just shoot what you got and smile.
ChuckC
never had weight tubes work, they just messed up everything and would pop out the back on a hard 3d target.
I've used weight tubes since they came out without any problem. Just get glue stick and rub it on the tube when you insert it and it will hold well once it dries. Do the same with the press in nock. I've not had a tube or nock pop out and use these with 55-63 pound bows.
The most important thing is the flight. If your arrows recover quickly, and fly staight, I would stick with them. Make sure they are sharp. You can try something different, but might think about leaving these as is. You can always try paper testings to make sure. Although Paul makes wood arrows, this applies to all arrows: http://elitearrows.com/proper-arrow/
The most important thing is the flight. If your arrows recover quickly, and fly staight, I would stick with them. Make sure they are sharp. You can try something different, but might think about leaving these as is. You can always try paper testings to make sure. Although Paul makes wood arrows, this applies to all arrows. For best results test with the same weight in a field point. A broadhead will cut a wide slot, and prevent a tear if the arrow does wobble: http://elitearrows.com/proper-arrow/
If you like your set up and just need to add weight I have had success stuffing my arrows with woven nylon rope. I tried the weight tubes and had the same problem AZ-Longbow had with the popping out and launching a nock. (never tried to glue them in though.) I also shoot Montecs. I like them a lot.
Thanks for all the advice. I may play around and try to make them a tad heavier. Still have plenty of time before deer season.
Sounds good to me if they are flying well for you.
QuoteOriginally posted by Keith Zimmerman:
Sounds good to me if they are flying well for you.
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the most important things to look at here are arrow flight and arrow weight. If they are flying good and are 9 grains per pound or higher, you are fine. shoot what you have.
If you are well tuned and the arrows are flying well, you are good to go. A lot of the statistical data that folks love to tinker with doesn't need to be the Holy Grail of your archery set up. The key is good flight and accuracy while shooting a sharp broadhead, whether two or three blades are used. I don't knock those who tinker in great detail to get absolute perfection from tuning, but I don't feel that is totally necessary. (I realize the engineers and technically oriented guys may disagree with me here, and I sure don't want to start an argument. Frankly, a lot of these guys are a lot smarter than me.) Pretty much, the good flight indicates good tuning, enough said. Instead, put your work into achieving greater accuracy and hunting skills.
Thanks everybody for the replies. I was able to weigh one of my arrows today and they are 370.377 grains. I think that should be ok for the shots I'll be taking as long as my broadheads are good and sharp.
If your set up arrows fly good and makes you happy then remember ......if it ain't broke.
QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Are these arrows making your bow loud ? Weight tubes (3gr / inch) would add maybe 87 grains which would bring you up to ~ 450 gr arrows. This might quiet the bow ( if needed) and give just a bit more weight. I wouldn't worry about your broadhead choice. Keep em sharp. or, just shoot what you got and smile.
ChuckC
I took this advice just to see what happened. I added one 3.5 gpi weight tube to one arrow, and just to be safe put a bit of glue on the nock. No rattle at all in the arrow and my bow is a LOT quieter. I'm gonna shoot this one arrow a few more times and if I like it this way I'll add tubes to all of them.
I would try a 100 grain brass insert in one as well without the tubes. I prefer the weight in the front if possible. Carbons to me seem to shoot a wide assortment of point weight at a given length. That would add 100 grains minus the weight of the aluminum insert.I`m leary of a 3 blade on a very lite arrow . RC
Like RC, I like the heavy brass inserts, but adding 100 grains to one end of your arrow could weaken the spine to where you don't get as good flight.
Yes, they do, but it's worth to try the 100 grain brass inserts, because the effect weaken the spine is not as much as using a 100 grain heavier point on front!
Hope my english is understandable. :confused: