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Title: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: La flecha on March 06, 2016, 01:47:00 PM
Something to do while sitting in front of fire this winter - in addition to thinking about next fall.

No I didn't make the bow (tho I did put on new grip leather).  It's an 80's Bushbow, new to me a couple of months ago.

Side quiver works well on side as well as back.  Rawhide lace divider will help keep blunts separate from broadheads.  Hunting it'll only be a couple of arrows in there of course.   (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOwo0gtCxjH1M4Pea79HGgKZGKLDx-TYi6fl2v-kw_sAavcNg7zmBftaUZI3m2Jsg/photo/AF1QipN4VL9IXxD80Q7jgwoqVlH65myVvO-ZPZBl4uSB?key=MEFVVDJkRDN4ck5LQ1VMWkpHYnUxQkNhVGw0bzF3)

  (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOwo0gtCxjH1M4Pea79HGgKZGKLDx-TYi6fl2v-kw_sAavcNg7zmBftaUZI3m2Jsg/photo/AF1QipOVND2h8e5zCPwbTO9uEBgM90U6xwc4Yn29mFoh?key=MEFVVDJkRDN4ck5LQ1VMWkpHYnUxQkNhVGw0bzF3)
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: La flecha on March 06, 2016, 01:54:00 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/i3J4aJ3roM3pnxq8k8QSFzPfVT-bGkWgLji7jvjR_77Woqv7eeUcDwlqpOr4NZRWB2rqHDdqjQXll3uGQhSa7Y2DOVeOsDyLmCPw1B-ZMWJEMozCvtXb6UmbhdUdxWoO4fbaZZGC3okXDaBNWUNxSjbOIynFBFZufJhAZ1CG13-fWac4vGFW4Lrr02XJB2SJU_oT9U9lWJjMeb84m4QPofMZTZ3KJwoAReRbr2NwJ1e3Dh1Y4wYE66ru3c8yZYRMSVjSRV_LhhqjOtMcZhnF8_rVYCwIW6SNOurnAv_NhOalw-suvhFIgctvY2cQvtndhyZjTXR42DX0AicergDNrIc0g82oDskZUJDl1OfBcIqRWUfoQjOX4B69-4JSrabVCPNmGU6hj-p8BdWlvotcdaycm23G-a4ZtrPjXH3mkju9z1Fm4ggi959OcaBmObPUem3tIkcSoHlh4M1K1s3M-nrRHNLoWU8tgjJr3eYd-Y_Mriva7kp_PKB9p17xpeqZlDuI-6JHCjrs6WyOAecADG8oACLMahpB6ODHP4GMv0aUlJgckHK1rcdABnnhL1DDSWeP=w703-h1053-no)

  (https://goo.gl/photos/by8REkte6aUHPYeC8)    (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uhNLeLXlMA7zNKNkqwd51AkwfrfJ9i2ZKlRnI7XJjeptfDY52aLTfw4w9S3xLuDv3AY_FV19Os2Hdj0U8yuSejZ0_Gh_-sPPWn9Bkt6UN7eRPAjhHRiysvpRJ-q-I1Lcqx8DSFs9t9jZmMuLRxSz5dUju0WvSJuB0e8Tt8RSYW29i5cA35yJ9hq5vZAxXdZ7Ytys3og7iNx_f5zAhVhnvHhft16HO0B9A_7wMgGnvtBXOTCnlY3lLNNIYNNqGp28sPItakLOIxm1wVGgkh263TCgVUWsiWA9e_IgnkPyeVdSCen1Z80mfQ2e-4JJIp0eQPzEMVb7KcWjdJ5SyTnSwTJ1-GGQ2s1gYDRs6OBtCAx_5ZK4Gmk0uWjxmC-F2CWG3ywDJs4djcsAVAD5Oy_Uf-wG6R0hMTisTnQ_MwARmCROOBJ-zefBDwkpLMSHXLyQ6Dsj1vgK6D9_QaBgWKqEdOfJ-Bzfikwu05IQv7lzdMaoZStt69PsMoGKI6koO6NkH2hIGN_gVojbQhU4t139MPaJ92MMyPQN50WvYZ8cin4NGrBk3guLpSZbbehIn_mx0lfv=w1580-h1053-no)
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: neargeezer on March 06, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
Nice looking work.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Chad Orde on March 06, 2016, 04:27:00 PM
Real nice love the colors
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Gdpolk on March 06, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
looks nice.  That's a lot of saddle stitching.  I just finished up a quiver for myself this weekend as well.  I made my wife a lovely back quiver a while back and it made me jealous so I had to do a similar one for myself, though not as ornate and girly looking.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Bladepeek on March 06, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
I'm guessing you ran a stiffening wire down the sides between those stitching rows. Nice work. I'd say you learned saddle stitching very fast. Nice even work!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: T-Bowhunter on March 06, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
That looks great!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Hermon on March 06, 2016, 05:37:00 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Tater on March 06, 2016, 05:48:00 PM
Nice work....the quiver and stitching look great..!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: hawkeye n pa on March 06, 2016, 07:28:00 PM
Very nice and that is a lot of stitching!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: YORNOC on March 06, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
I'm a casual leather guy myself, make all my own stuff. You put some time into that and it really paid off. Love it!
Very, very nice work!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 06, 2016, 08:01:00 PM
Very nice...
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: monterey on March 06, 2016, 09:58:00 PM
With a little leather work under my belt (pun intended), I'll say that is very nice work.  Most people don't realize the amount of time invested in a project like that.   :thumbsup:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: La flecha on March 06, 2016, 10:41:00 PM
Wow... thanks all for kind words!

Yes.  It was a LOT of stitching.  Too much maybe.  Couldn't ever make a living doing it but I'll admit I enjoyed it and would do it again.

Stitching got better as I did more of it.  Learned how much tension is needed etc.  The slots were meant for wire stiffeners (idea inspired by and taken from an excellent build-along that's made the rounds), but in the end I decided I didn't want the weight.  Turned out that the double thickness leather was worthwhile anyway as it adds considerable stiffness by itself.

Cut a strip of shearling for mouth and decided against it.  Most of the noise, I think, is fletching against fletching. For the bottom I did a sewn in lighter weight wet-formed piece of leather and then dropped in a friction-fit piece of shearling backed by heavy split leather.  It seems to protect bottom just fine and the shearling keeps the points from thunking when you drop them in.  Also tends to keep them from sliding around.

Next time around I'd like to try to use leather I harvested and processed myself    :)
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: bruinman on March 07, 2016, 06:28:00 AM
Very nice!!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: jt85 on March 07, 2016, 06:33:00 AM
Great job, that looks very nice
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: dhaverstick on March 07, 2016, 07:46:00 AM
Coming from a feller who does nothing but hand stitching, you have something to be proud of there! Good job.

Darren
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Sam McMichael on March 08, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
Beautiful leather work like this combines function with art. Good job!
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
This is a side stalker style quiver with antler handled knife(from a file) and arm guard I made for the PA Christmas Trade. All saddle stitched...
 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/IMG_0034_zpsxolckybb.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/IMG_0034_zpsxolckybb.jpg.html)

 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/IMG_0032_zpspgy6po5u.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/IMG_0032_zpspgy6po5u.jpg.html)

...and a briefcase/laptop case I made for a guy in my office. Mostly saddle stitches(about 20 hours worth) and some running(buck) stitching...
 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/DSC00009_zpshtmbxwdb.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/DSC00009_zpshtmbxwdb.jpg.html)

 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/DSC00011_zpsjbsrchbx.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/DSC00011_zpsjbsrchbx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Killdeer on March 08, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
Looks to be very high quality work! Hope to see you at the local shoots. I would recognize that quiver anywhere!

Killdeer   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Roadkill on March 08, 2016, 09:16:00 PM
Nicely done.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: fujimo on March 09, 2016, 12:18:00 AM
real nice job Antonio- i like everything - the choice of colours and trim, the execution- nice fine stitching.

if i may... i would like to just pass on one tip-the carry straps  that go around the quiver, the way you have stitched them( across the strap)- creates what we call a postage stamp effect- in other words a weak point- that has the potential to tear off- now the quiver is light- and the arrows light- so it will probably never tear off- but just for the info.... its better to stitch a line down either side- say maybe an inch or less long- running parallel to the edge- kinda close to the edge about the same distance from the edge as the leather is thick.
lots of  strength- and wont "postage stamp" the belt.

and just for info for anybody else that is stitching- (which you seem to have down here) as a rough guideline- depending on application of course- your stitch length should roughly be equal to the thickness of the piece being sewn. that has to do with a combination of aesthetic balance and function- but yours look perfect as they are.
great job   :thumbsup:  a quiver  to be proud of
cheers mate
wayne
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: La flecha on March 09, 2016, 05:53:00 AM
Thanks Fujimo...  I thought and debated the straps for a long time.  SOmehow I concluded that the stress would be across width of strap and therefore that would be the best location for line of stitching (more stiches = less stress per stitch).  But next go around I'll heed your advice...

One thing I'm glad I did is to avoid more weight/complexity from rings etc. I also was hesitant to stitch directly to quiver.  The loops are free to rotate so that I can tweak where the opening faces when wearing it.  I like the opening facing mostly to the side - allows me to wear the quiver relatively 'short' and still be able to get arrow out.  Also, pulling the single lace out, lets the loop slide off quiver so that I could change the design if I think of something better later.  Which I will of course!  lol
Guess I fess'up that I'm a designer by trade.  That and a little OCD goes a long way :-0
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 09, 2016, 06:59:00 AM
That is one impressive quiver. well done.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: fujimo on March 09, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
very cool quiver- and lots of fore thought- job well done!

what kind of design are you involved in?
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: non-typical on March 11, 2016, 08:58:00 AM
Something that passes from idea to function to art to heirloom. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: Bladepeek on March 11, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
A lot of thought went into that quiver and, for someone who claims to be "learning hand stitching" that's a VERY professional job. The way the thread lines up on the same side of the punched hole really makes it look clean. Congratulations. I think you impressed a lot of us.
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: La flecha on March 11, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
Once again thanks.  I drew inspiration from hours of looking at other quiver threads.  There's a lot of talent out there (and around here)!

It is interesting to me:  the whole hunting 'thing' is made even more significant when you shoot trad and perhaps with trad supplies.  To hold a bow, or cast an arrow, that were made by a *person* - not some assembly line or foundry or worker in some factory - ties us back to the roots of what it is to be a maker and user of tools.  I always note around here that there's a lot of respect for those that craft things themselves.  Not saying that's exclusive to trad archery, but I am saying it seems to be pretty deeply rooted here.  Hope that makes sense :-P
Title: Re: Side quiver - learning to saddlestitch
Post by: tradgreenhorn on March 13, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Sweet you have a great talent. Thanks for sharing