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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: M Beach on March 02, 2016, 08:44:00 AM
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I keep going back and forth between a new recurve or longbow. I think I want to give a longbow a try. I do not want to sacrifice performance so I am still on that fence. If I do decide to get a new long bow I think I have decided on one of 3 the Osprey, Whip, or Thunderchild. My concern is as a 5'9" person who primarily hunts from a stand. I want to keep my bow 60" or shorter. Will I lose anything from the shorter bow or should I go back to looking a recurves at those lengths?
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My Leon Stewart 56" Little Slammer gives up nothing in performance. I also shoot a Heartland Surge t/d 58" that is as smooth as glass. I am 5'8" and draw 26.5".
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I do not know anything about the Osprey, or what recurve you have, but you will likely not lose much, if anything, performance-wise with a Whip or Thunderchild!
Bisch
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You have mentioned Dan Toelke's Whip, take a look at his new Pika in 54" & 56" lengths. I shot a 56" bow at Dan's place lst July while out on a fly fishing trip and like all Dan's bows, it's a gem! I draw 29"s and the 56" bow will accommodate a longer draw than that easily. The 54" Pika would probably work well for you, call Dan he will know.
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I second the Pika over the short whip.
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Thunderchild :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :archer2:
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Look at Gregg Coffee's short longbows too. I am totally pleased with my 54" Elk Heart.
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I've shot the thunder child and osprey, never shot a whip. My choice would be the Osprey it is a great bow that is smooth, quite,and pretty darn quick. Anything built by Chad Holm is a winner.
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I currently am shooting my dads super grizzly. I am a recent (less than a year) convert back to traditional archery. I love hunting with my compounds but have only been shooting the recurve for the last year. It has rekindled my addiction as my wife says. Just looking for a longbow that has great performance.
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I'd be after a Shrew or a Java Man bow if I were looking for what you're describing.
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Of those you mentioned, I've only shot the Whip, both a 58" and 62". I draw 28", or pretty close to it. The 58" didn't stack, but I felt the string angle was more than I liked. I don't think I'd go less than 62" on one, for me. The Toelke's make a fine bow, and I trust the folks here who speak highly of the Pika for a shorter bow.
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Not to confuse the issue further, but have you looked at the offerings from Cari-bow. I'm 5'9 as well and love my Featherhorn. Abe offers several shorter, more radically reflexed bow designs as well.
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I have both a 56" Pika and a 62" Whip. Both bows are 45# at 28". I shoot them both equally well. The Pika is really handy up in a treestand, the Whip is just slightly smoother in the draw.....but not by much in my hands. I wouldn't part with either of them. Both bows are quiet and dead in the hand.
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You will love a short longbow. I have not tried a long shortbow, but I bet it is fun too. My personal favorites are a JK Kanati for 1 piece and Morrison Shawnee for 3 piece.
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Maddog makes a good short longbow
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Whip, Pika or Elkheart would be my choice.
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I too am 5'9'' and have both a 54'' Javaman elk heart and a 54'toelke pika. Both are smooth drawing great shooters it will be a toss up as to which one goes afield first.
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Elkheart would be really hard to beat, but all three are great. Slammer is really nice too!
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Lost Creek, Shrew, preferably used as the wait is long, Javaman, Big Jim, lots to choose from.
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Jack Kempf makes a Lil' Grizzly short longbow. Mine isnin the works, 58" on my 29" draw. I am 6' tall.
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I had an Elkheart that I just sold. Mine was 54", 2 piece bow bolt t/d and I have a 28" draw. Fantastic bow. Smooth and plenty quick.
I'm sold on this style/size of bow and now after having test driven one, have a Toelke Pika 54" that should be ready any day.
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All the bows you mentioned are great bows. You will not notice any difference in "performance" between longbows or recurves.
Enjoy.
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All the bows you mentioned are great bows. You will not notice any difference in "performance" between longbows or recurves.
Enjoy.
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I love my thunderchild bows
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that thunderchild you let me shoot was an eye opener drew!!
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Back to your original question. I have shot both recurves and longbows. I have to say that my Whip with the 8 strand string that Dan makes gives up nothing to any recurve that I have.
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It sure is Mike , even with a long draw they are easy to like
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What about a Treadway Black forest compared to the Whip, Pika, Elkheart, And Thunderchild. The Black forest is 56" 55 @28 which is what I would want the other bows to be around.
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M Beach
Nineworlds will hopefully jump in. That man has them bows and is very knowledgeable. I've got a pika t/d & treadways black swamp. Amazing bows! Mikes bow is 60". Screams an arrow at 45@28. Really really amazing bow. Limbs are wider so it's a bit softer. Now my pika in all fairness is the 54" model. Can't really compare because it's so much shorter. The limb core is thick and narrow. That screams an arrow as well, its 47#@27". Also have two of Maddogs, very underrated bows!I don't have the other bows or shot the others that your interested. I've owned javamans Eros. Little recurve. That was a little bad ass. I sold it because I like the R/d longbows. I don't use a stringer. The other bows you've mentioned have great reviews. Try one from the classifieds. Much cheaper than buying new than selling and taking a huge loss. Or ask around at a shoot to see who has one so you try it out. I like pika grip better than my treadway. But both shoot fantastic. Next week I'll be getting a lil slammer. This one I'm sure is going to be The bow!!.... That's what I said several bows ago to! Enjoy the journey.